in need of guidance, help, knowledge &

some wisdom from some folks that know more than myself.. Ill try to keep it short so i don't bore to many of you...
I'm a 48 yr old recovering alcoholic w/ migraines & I can get meds like zanex, Valium & some barbiturates all day long...I tried it the legal way & after about 4-5 years my mind & soul made "The Endangered Species List" I was losing everything!!!
An associate of my has a son that suffered the same & suggested MJ, well I did & from that point on I never had a head ache like i used to! Its a miracle i say!!... I had to change the way i think now, I had to smoke dope...Went against what I believed!

Now my problem, I am going to have to move from Texas to Colorado, I'm sorry to you folks that don't like Texans or that I'm a Libertarian. I will tell you I am proud to be a CHRISTIAN, I love the USA & I'm a man of my word! That being said I got busted with MJ the other day it could be over a lb & I had lot of guns, thats a no no!!

I have not been arrested as of yet but I will... I am not really worried about the jail time, I more worried about having to go back to the legal way to deal w/my migraines which is a death sentence for me... My ONLY choice is a MMJ safe state & Colorado is the one We (my family,6 ea.) has picked sorry again!! ...
So any directions, suggestions, past experiences would be helpful.Especially Knowledge We consist of 3 adults, 12 yr old & 7 yr old twins cant do big cities (orig, from Dallas) I know I've left out lots of info but I didn't want to carry on, ask anything you wish!

thank you so much in advance!
MW

You were caught with over a pound of weed and lots of guns in Texas and you're not worried about jail time? Even if you got probation and moved here your probation would follow you here and you would be given drug tests and most likely would not be allowed to use marijuana, medical or otherwise.

you've not been charged? you've not been told to stay by a judge?

if that's the case, I'd say it's time to go now!

Texas huh ? Bummer. I would think that the warrant is going to follow you, colorado or not.. Maybe its a question of whether colorado would be willing to pick you up on the warrant and send you back to Texas. Maybe NORML has some advice for you...

all they(Texas Rangers) did was take my pot, they left my guns all of them & i have a savage 30-06, 4 FAL's, 2 SKS's, 5 22's A tec 9, 454 casull, 38 Sp, probibly over 1k of rounds of ammo & half are armor piercing, they did not take nothing but pot!! they did not kill my Doberman, they didn't tear up my house, that didn't call CPS ( i have 3 children) hell the Texas Ranger called my wife & told her to take the kids to the park & i would call when it was all said & done, now the person in charge works for the DPS... Hell they called the BATF&E out of Beaumont for the guns I put together to make sure they were compliant & they believed they were!
They did read me my rights once they found out how many guns I had, hell they left some of the weed(they probibly knew I was going to need it). they didn't tell me not to leave town, they left all the paraphernalia & 3 joints in the ash tray

this is where I will piss off cop haters-I HAVE GOT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE ITS DUE, THEY TREATED ME WITH THE UTMOST RESPECT, THEY DIDN'T BELITTLE ME OR TRIED TO MAKE ME FEEL LIKES SCUM,THEY DIDN'T EVEN CUFF ME, HELL THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OFFICERS THAT SHOOK MY HAND & APOLOGIZE THAT WE HAD TO MEET THIS WAY, A FEMALE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HER AZALEAS & WHAT SHE WAS DOING WRONG IN THERE GROWTH, THE STORIES COULD GO ON & ON HOW THEY WENT BEYOND IN TREATING ME LIKE A HUMAN & NOT SOME SCUM BAG! i REALLY HAVE TO RESPECT THEM!! THEY WERN'T EVEN SMART ASSES & i THINK THATS A REQUIREMENT FOR BEING A COP.thay all assured me that they were just dion their job
Technically, I am a law abiding citizen, I just can't take what sociality deems ok for the rest of the population, my brains chemical makeups bad!!

I also have never sold or given away one iota of cannabis, this was my personal grow & having a excessive personality (alcoholic) as I do with so many things i just got carried away with my grow, my character defect or flaw, obsessiveness is one of the symptoms.

I have a running 68? passsenger bus I'm thanking about fixing to live in @ mabe a state park for the time being

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!
MW

After reading all that, you got bigger issues to deal with than having to move.


CPS in Co won't deal well with a family of 6 living out of a bus on BLM (Bureau of Land Management,) or "public" lands, Add to that the # of weapons, and the MJ (Still a federal crime for some stupid reason) And your eventually asking for trouble, but as you already said, "Havent been arrested, but will"


If you do chose to go that route, you will have to move your camp every week, at least 3 miles from the last place and stay outside that 3 mile radius for 3 months. Of course the rangers cant really enforce that, but if they do catch you more than a few times you will be charged with squatting. (been there done that, lived out of a tent/back of my car for about 9 months in Glenwood springs, Only got busted by a ranger once, but I never lingered in one place for long.)


Good luck, and welcome to Co! :hippy:

What are your talents? Can you get a job here to get started? Colorado has many beautiful areas, some great mountain towns, the plains, and the larger cities, Denver, Colorado Springs, and Grand Junction.

IMHO, I would move the F#@k out of Texas, Search online, find a job, and get an apartment. I know that is easier said then done but it sounds like you are not going to thrive where you are now. So I will leave you with a last piece of advice that an old man gave me once. "Cowboy up, think of your family, and do what needs to be done."

Hope this helps and enjoy Colorado.

Sorry I didn't make myself to clear, I would not bring my family until I was set up for family living(job,house, yard, dogs & the American dream or @ least a house & job ) I would be the only one to live in a bus that I'll convert to RV status & maybe hook it up to state park lots as a rv, hell I'll even try to work @ one as an attendant so I wouldn't have to pay the lot fee!

I need to be able to communicate with real time people, not stats from 5 yrs ago, i need links to news paper classified, the areas to stay out of, houses that someone might know of because they just read it in a paper, maybe someone has rent property they need to rent out. Someone might own acreage that i could work for my keep! I am willing to do anything moral & legal to survive this gift GOD calls life on Earth

i would give up all my Texas rights & never come back to this state if they would do the right thing & my drop the charges or give deferred adjudication for 10 yrs.

I am that desperate; I have not heard anything as of yet from law enforcement but I want to be prepared just in case the DA says "I'll take you up on it, you got a week to get out of town." I'd do it!!

thanks for all your help!!
MW

Anywhere near the mountains is EXPENSIVE to live. There's some good folk up there, and if you really want to disappear,.... you can do it in the hills. But it's a tough life to live that way.

The flatlands and major city's are cheaper, work is easier to find, housing is more affordable, and overall cost of living is better.

There's lots of new development east of Denver in Thornton/Commerce City/ Aurora towards the airport. (DIA)

Buddy of mine just got a NEW house that's about 1/3 larger than mine for 40k less than I paid for my house! :eek: :mad: ( his house was around 185k )


I would aim for somewhere between Denver and Ft.Collins as a starting point.

Hit up the Post/news classifieds for job listings and property's. There's others but that's the first one that comes to mind. Main Categories - Denver Post Classifieds

Hope that helps! ;)

My talents are few, I been in the restaurant business since 1978, everything you could imagine FOH & BOH managers, cooks & everything in between, I've opened them, changed menus, ordered from vender's,hired & fired. I had 6wks of advance mgt training from the Pillsbury co.(Steak N Ale, Burger king, Key West etc...) If it has to do with the restaurant business I've probibly done it.
my hobbies are working on older vehicles, & until recently I grew MJ( the cops even complemented on how beautiful they were & they have never seen any as pretty), reloaded ammo.
And your right I am going to man up & do WHATEVER it takes to survive the way God intend me to!
thanks all
MW

thanks so much for the info...
disappearing is not a factor, I have a wife & 3 kids & thats no way to live, hiding out...
I am responsible for my actions, I am a law abiding citizen(GOD'S especially) so I will have to pay to hear the piper play!

Thanks to all
MW

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Anywhere near the mountains is EXPENSIVE to live....

The flatlands and major city's are cheaper

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Are you crazy? Denver / Littleton / Boulder (the major cities here) are the most expensive areas you can live in. The mountains (Morrison, west of Boulder, etc) have hundreds if not thousands of cheap houses to buy, many with an acre or ten to boot.

Do a map search of real estate, sort by price, and you'll see that anything INSIDE the 470 "ring" is expensive. Anything outside, including LOTS to the west, is cheaper.

Consider also job availability, commute time and fuel expense. Sure I could have gotten a house on acreage in conifer for less than I'm paying here in thornton, but I'd have a 2 hour commute to work each way vs my current 15 minuets. In that aspect the cost of living makes it unreasonable.


Boulder's prices are plain outlandish,... but have you spent much time in that city? It's a little far afield anyway! :rolleyes:

I need you all discussing with me The great state of Colorado, where to live & why! The cities & surrounding areas, the housing market, the employment issue (I know its bad country wide).
half the stats I get on line are from the 2000 census!
don't laugh but I've never lived outside of Texas! so the is a major change for me & family!!
thanks again!!! But I must pick up my children. Be back soon.
MW

I've been reading this thread for the past couple of days and I'm sorry but I have problems understanding why someone owns so many guns. Also have a problem why someone has to let everyone know their religious and political beliefs.

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I've been reading this thread for the past couple of days and I'm sorry but I have problems understanding why someone owns so many guns. Also have a problem why someone has to let everyone know their religious and political beliefs.

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I can tell you why I have guns....

Because a police officer is too heavy to carry around 24/7 on my back to protect me and my family.

I apologize if i have offended you with one of my hobbies(gun smithing), I also thought it was kind of strange that law enforcement would have left them, my motive was to find out if anyone has ever heard of this happening to them or someone else:
Why do people collect anything? If you don't mind me asking, do you have collectibles? Would it have been better if I collected cars, Barby dolls or how about different strains of cannabis, how about life savings like Madoff did; & besides I like to target shoot, its sorta like golf, I've got to get a little ball into a little hole except @ 900+fps; sometimes I even like to hunt.

Your problem with why I would let people know about my religious & political beliefs is to tell people more about me & my belief system. Besides that I am
very proud of who I am & what I believe in & constructive conversation was what I was hoping for, I really did not intend for the power of my words to cause you so much concern or problems understanding someone that you have never met & probibly never will...If you are curious of why I am the way I believe I will be more than happy to invite you to a conversation that could possibly chip away @ the boundaries of ignorance so that we both could walk away winners & having a better understanding of something we did not before I would be more than happy to give you my personal email if you wish.

"I also believe that people are like water, We seek out our own level;"
"Bird of a feather flock together"

I am not here for any type of negativity or more so of malice although I believe some people can't really help it, it is embedded in who they are, I have not met any myself personally as of yet!!

thank you for listening & may we all find what we seek.
MW

i doubt anyone is offended. thing is, you are putting you and your family at risk, especially in a non-medical state.

I'm not saying this is right, but I wouldn't have a gun collection in a house that grows.

OK I see But Ive cleaned house

1) there 's not anything growing!
2) my guns are @ another local
3) I have my house clean like the CPS, ATF (again), DPS, HLS, DEA, Them & THEY are coming
4) I dont even have the weed the cops left here!
5) I already have a Dr's appointment 9-14 for the legal meds for the migraines that has already started

copobo
thanks again!

MW

good for you.

the very best choice you could make.

sometimes, ya gotta shift gears.

Have you considered Montana?
They love guns & god and they're a med state too.
Not as heavily regulated as CO is getting.
Land is cheaper too.

If heart is set on CO, check out the western slope.
Really depends on what type of place you're looking for.
I think you said you're in Dallas or close to it - so do you prefer more urban areas or do you want something rural?
Mountains or plains?
What kind of work will you be looking for? This is probably going to be the number one deciding factor. For me and my profession - my only choice is the Denver Metro area for the most part. Any where else in the state, and I would be working part-time. Had the laws this past summer not changed the way things were here with MMJ, part-time wouldn't of been a problem as I could of just sold my extra meds to dispensaries. Now there's too much oversight for me and I had to scale back my grow & reduce the number of patients I was helping.

Good luck OP(originalposter). I hope it works out for you and yours. I think Parker, Lakewood, and probably most rural places would be grow friendly. I don't think Denver or Aurora or Brighton would be good options for you at this point.

A word of advice: The more you open up here, the more likely you'll be personally attacked by the anonymous internet hater trolls. That's just the way it goes online.

Also, don't post your email address, you'll get banned. Seriously, read the posting rules and follow them, because the rules are applied fairly liberally. Just an FYI.

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i doubt anyone is offended. thing is, you are putting you and your family at risk, especially in a non-medical state.

I'm not saying this is right, but I wouldn't have a gun collection in a house that grows.

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Well said.

thaibudda-thank you for the reply, I'll have to look @ Montana, its probibly colder than Colorado huh? Yes I am orig. from Dallas but I currently live in a city less than 1500 people. I live next to a river & woods, the biggest city close to me is Beaumont TX. & thats an hour away! I really really love the the little towns, no city lights competing with the stars,no sirens, no honking or people fighting, its heaven on earth to me!! I would love a small town, hell a ghost town wouldn't bother me to bad, but now the wife on the other hand.... I want to go back to a small town, I love knowing your neighbors(both of them) & counting on each other if the need arises, I want to stay as far from the big city as I can, I wouldn't mid driving 1 to 1.5 hrs to work to have the serenity of a country living, Mountains, plains, valleys,or flat lands really wouldn't hurt my feelings. I would work on a ranch if thats what it took, I am not afraid of work, I not to stupid(i did get busted) I can learn to do something else!

The restaurant industry is what I know best, so to find a job asap it will probibly fall back on that...the wife is a receptionist @ Dr's office & still is in collage. I know I will have to live at the poverty level far a while, but my wealth is measured by the health of my family & especially with the children

colorgrower420- thank you very much for the advice!! As far as opening up on line, people can only hurt me if I allow them to & I haven't given anyone that power, but I do understand what your saying & thank you!!
I wasn't going to actually put my email, I would have found the proper means for this. I want to see if wkhay4 wants to become my new found friend

Thank you so much
MW

I want to see if wkhay4 wants to become my new found friend

Thank you so much
MW[/QUOTE]

Wkhey has no problem with that. Think you took my post the wrong way. I'm here to talk bud. If I want to talk politics or religion I go to other forums but feel free to say whatever you want and I'll make sure my filters are set up. :hippy:

thank you for extending your hand, & I do sincerely apologize for misinterpreting your post.
thank you again wkhey4

respectfully
MW

MW, have you been looking for places in Colorado still? I live in southern Colorado and you may like this area better than Denver and northern regions. Check out farther south like Colorado Springs, Pueblo or Canon City. Check out this website for housing in Fremont County. I think you just might be interested becuase it is smaller town atmosphere. The weather is also milder than the northern regions.
Serving all of your Real Estate needs in the Fremont County areas, Canon City, Florence, Penrose, Rockvale, Willamsburg, Coal Creek and Southern Colorado

Hope this helps and gives a broader search for you. :)

PatientPal
thank you ever so much, & yes I'm still looking so when the time is right, I will have as much info as I can retain & have some sort of game plan.
The cities you mentioned is where I am very interested, so thank you very much for the link & info!!!

MW

so how did it go? were you ever charged?

Sir
I have not heard one thing! And you talk about driving me CRAZY... this not knowing, man.... but I'm on my legal meds which is addicting in them selves.. I've already been down this road with zanex, valum, butalb, prozac,seroquel I think we get the pic... I'm a recoveing drunk, this is what my central nervous system likes... pill form booze... you talk about self control... when all i needed was my all natual weed!!
This is whats funny & tells about the system: they left me with all my MANY GUNS & AMMO but took the plants... I could go nuts & kill things & that a risk they took BUT GOD forbid get those weeds... Texas has some screwed up laws...
sorry I vented...
MW

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Sir
I have not heard one thing! And you talk about driving me CRAZY... this not knowing, man.... but I'm on my legal meds which is addicting in them selves.. I've already been down this road with zanex, valum, butalb, prozac,seroquel I think we get the pic... I'm a recoveing drunk, this is what my central nervous system likes... pill form booze... you talk about self control... when all i needed was my all natual weed!!
This is whats funny & tells about the system: they left me with all my MANY GUNS & AMMO but took the plants... I could go nuts & kill things & that a risk they took BUT GOD forbid get those weeds... Texas has some screwed up laws...
sorry I vented...
MW

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you might want to leave those guns in texas, here its an added charge in texas its a bonus point...yeeeeehaaaaw! throw that there shotgun in the pickup we's going huntin:cool:


dadgum

It's looking that way...I believe they could have pursuded further charges, if they wanted, they (Texas Rangers) ask did I know that guns & drugs together is a very bad thing as for as the law... matter of fact i think thats when I was read my rights...
thanks for the heads up!
MW

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It's looking that way...I believe they could have pursuded further charges, if they wanted, they (Texas Rangers) ask did I know that guns & drugs together is a very bad thing as for as the law... matter of fact i think thats when I was read my rights...
thanks for the heads up!
MW

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not to make light of your situation, at all. its just that colorado is a liberal state and texas is mostly republican. if you shoot someone in texas your better off than growing and in colorado your better off not doing either. dont ask dont tell here. yeah we have some benefits, however i fear next pres. elect will determine the future. as always watch your back and consider that moving here will not avoid texas at all. maybe (texas rangers) were being nice to you, or maybe they get high:stoned: and this will be the last you here of it.

best of luck

meded

Hmmm.... Busted in Texas with felony grow+guns and no ticket, notice to appear or arrest? Sounds like you got jacked.

def. something off about this. how much free weed did the cops get? do you grow killer shit?

you know the same thought crossed my mind, I had to think about the badges & i saw 4 La, 3 Tx Ranger & 3 DPS officers.... I have the paper work they left, they called the BATF&E to come check out my guns... he said I was OK(no full autos) & the helicopter had the neighbor hood flushing all their shit, I have the cops ph # on his card from the DPS along w/the seized property yellow copy... so i had the same thought!

I had 15 plants @ least 5 ft high outside & if i were to guess maybe 10oz cureing in 8 glass jars... I was growing super silver, ajarn haze & skuck x haze...

They're drying it, testing the strenth, weighting the roots, stalks & dirt probably, & will call me to go to town where everything will pick up where it left off the day they were here....they could have done alot more but I was honest to them & they each tested me in some kind of way... DID NOT disrespect them @ all & they were VERY cool to me & did'nt kill my dogs..

M.

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you know the same thought crossed my mind, I had to think about the badges & i saw 4 La, 3 Tx Ranger & 3 DPS officers.... I have the paper work they left, they called the BATF&E to come check out my guns... he said I was OK(no full autos) & the helicopter had the neighbor hood flushing all their shit, I have the cops ph # on his card from the DPS along w/the seized property yellow copy... so i had the same thought!

I had 15 plants @ least 5 ft high outside & if i were to guess maybe 10oz cureing in 8 glass jars... I was growing super silver, ajarn haze & skuck x haze...

They're drying it, testing the strenth, weighting the roots, stalks & dirt probably, & will call me to go to town where everything will pick up where it left off the day they were here....they could have done alot more but I was honest to them & they each tested me in some kind of way... DID NOT disrespect them @ all & they were VERY cool to me & did'nt kill my dogs..

M.

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im sure they did some more strength testing a little bit later as well.


meded, superior organics

They can test as much as they want... down here we all know the cops have the best weed...so test away, lose it , smoke it, give it to their buddies... I dont care, I just dont want a felony charge!

M

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They can test as much as they want... down here we all know the cops have the best weed...so test away, lose it , smoke it, give it to their buddies... I dont care, I just dont want a felony charge!

M

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no doubt there. hopefully you paid for your freedom with the bud.

meded out

that would be so cool....dont get me wrong, i got cought, I must pay for my actions... but a lesser charge would be nice...

M