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Since we have a "right winger" in the boards that dosn't care much about real facts except what he hears from FOX news, I decided to copy his style but with a smarter approach.
So fellow posters do you agree with the GOP on extending tax cuts for the rich to help the economy, it sounds like a stupid question, but this is what the right wing proposes and believes can get them into office.
What a bunch of hypocrites, one might say.
Economic recovery: Boehner, Obama square off - latimes.com
"those guys drove the car into the ditch and now they want the keys back?" :jointsmile:
Actually, they need to raise the rate to 50% on millionaires with minimal deductions. And those who are billionaires can pay 80% with minimal deductions. How much money does a person need when they have millions and billions? Time to lighten their pockets some!! :D
So I can go to jail and work on the road or I can thank the master for makin me here this fine job workin on the roads. I is so gratefull. At least it gets me out in the open air.
Tax cuts are only for people what got monies. I don't want to know what they plan to cut off me ?
I pleadge allegiants to the United States Of MADE IN CHINA.
CHUCKLE, yea, everyday more and more Democrats are now backing extending the Tax Cuts. Another 2 years.
Go for it Dems......let them expire......stuck between a rock and another rock now. Your screwed either way.
Good bit about wingnut hypocrisy on this issue whereby the party of NO believes either that it is only a good idea to extend tax cuts for the rich or that it is a good idea to extend tax cuts when it is there idea... you decide. WARNING - THIS MIGHT BE TOO DIFFICULT FOR SOME TO FOLLOW.
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Sen. Lamar Alexander: Really dishonest or really dumb?
by Joan McCarter
Thu Sep 09, 2010 at 07:48:02 AM PDT
Great catch from the Wonk Room's Pat Garofalo on Lamar Alexander and tax cuts for the rich.
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) has taken the tax absurdity to new heights, claiming that extending the Bush tax cuts is free, but President Obama??s latest proposal to cut business taxes by permanently extending the research and development tax credit may cost too much money:
Alexander, the chairman of the Senate Republican Caucus, said GOP lawmakers will consider Obama??s latest proposal to provide a research and development tax credit for businesses. But such a tax credit should come only after the White House agrees to extend the Bush tax cuts, including those on those earning more than $250,000 a year.
??The first thing we need to do is to make sure that we don??t raise taxes (by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire at the end of the year),? Alexander said. ??That is going to take most of September. Then we can turn our attention to seeing if we have money to reduce taxes.?
There are two problems with this. First, Alexander is clearly willing to hold the R&D credit hostage until he gets hundreds of billions in tax cuts for the rich (since Obama and the Democrats have already made it clear that they plan to extend the Bush tax cuts for the middle class). But second, why do we have to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy before deciding whether or not we can afford the business tax credit?
Yes, as Garofalo says, Alexander is saying that the Bush tax cuts are free, but Obama's tax cuts cost money. He could honestly believe that, and hence be really dumb (and I don't think anyone has ever accused his bulb of being the brightest in the Senate) or he's phenomenally dishonest. Of course, there's no ruling out that he's both.
The Republicans, and too many ConservaDems and Blue Dogs, care more about the nation's very rich than pretty much anything else. The fight over extending the tax cuts to the rich over next few months will prove just that, which makes it a pretty smart fight for Dems to pick leading up to November 2.
Yeah, forget typical families, let's fix it so Dickie Edginton the Third can afford a sixth estate. We can justify it alright though, with our famous 'trickle-down' theory about the richer people are at the top, the richer everyone will be.
They can sell that shit to someone who's buying it.
Yeah, trickle down economics might not work the best but trickle up poverty seems to be working fine. Extending unemployment to 99 weeks just screams "Yeah we're fucked but we still want your votes".
Politicians in general are lying pieces of shit, look at it this way, only the sleaziest, lying, slimeballs make it to the top, none of em have our best interest at heart. The only way to get our point across is to vote out the incumbents and let the newbs know we are watching. For the people, by the people, or hit the road jack.
:thumbsup: hell yeah!Quote:
Originally Posted by budster1969
A great election year game of chicken.......the tax cuts for the people who make and create jobs will be extended. Obama is scared of the orange, future House speaker from Ohio.
Say something that will enlighten me and that you didn't get from Beck for once, please!Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Too funny.....is there any other lines of attack in the liberal troll playbook outside of "your a racist" or "you watch Fox or listen to Glenn Beck? Your gonna have to do ALOT better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by lve2smk
Here ya go bucko......from CNN......chuckle,chuckle.
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - More Democrats break with Obama on tax cuts « - Blogs from CNN.com
:pimp:
I'm just saying it how it is. Where do you think the right wing gets their feed? It isn't from real life and facts I bet. It all comes down to the policies that are presented. What republicans have shown is that they care more about the wealthy than they do about the majority. In contrast, the democratic party has shown an attempt to help those in need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Also,
I wonder why some democrats are turning their back, is it because the high class is buying them off or is it because of all the bs hysteria that republicans have made about everything.
Moreover, i believe republicans are only good for lying and implementing religious control on the people, prove me wrong, please!
Pop quiz: who has taken away history classes from schools?
Religon? Please explain how you have personally had the "republican machine" push religon upon you? Is that a joke? Sounds like a Keith Olbermann skit. Don't like religon...... sweet........DONT GO TO CHURCH....nobody cares that ya dont and nobody from some "right wing" group has EVER attempted to forcibly make you attend a church huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by lve2smk
Democrats are leaving Obama because they know his vision is a losing one. They know Obamacare is a hunk of shit thats gonna do nothing but raise premiums across the board for everyone. That it took bribing their own party to even pass the bill in the first place. Their economic plan is an utter failure and has been from the start.
And most importantly......they know deep down that raising taxes against the people and small buisness's that create the jobs is a STUPID move and will cost them more seats. Period.
No matter what the DailyKos trolls on here might say......I voted for Obama and made a serious mistake, I believe that may have been one of my first posts. Apologizing for my dumpsky ass falling for Obama's charm.....when in reality, he's just another tax and spend Liberal to the left of Jimmy Carter.
Let me explain the concept of religion and politics by showing you a great documentary:
Jesus Camp | Watch Free Documentary Online
By the way, I never voted for Obama. I believed goverment was no use since they never had an impact on my life. But seeing my parents go through tuff times when my fater retired, and having alot of school dept to worry about. Once my parents and my self received economic help in a time of need realy showed me the impact government can have. Also, reading other reliable news outlets like BBC, or watching the daily show or probably by going to school and educating my self made me like the democratic agenda instead of the republican one.
O yea, don't call me a troll, you troll:jointsmile:
I didn't vote....so...I have no say or complaints. I'm in the silent minority.
The troll wasn't a reference to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by lve2smk
How did your mom and dad.....and yourself recieve help from the feds? After your father had already retired from the workforce? And why?
The Daily Show isnt a news channel.....its a comedy show......and the BBC actually makes up stories out of thin air. They had reporters "reporting" from Baghdad who were actually in the UAE. The mainstream media is dead.
What in the Democratic agenda do you support? Increased medical premiums across the board? Open Borders and rampant illegal immigration? High Unemployment and record number of people below the poverty line.....under the first black president (how odd)....bribes to get their own party to walk the plank for Obamacare......getting punked by Iran,N. Korea.....and all the other usual suspects? By all means....please point out a single thinkg going well for the Democrats "agenda" right now and which you support. Their agenda is a RADICAL leftist agenda after campaigning for 2 years as some middle of the road "post racial" president.....now the nations FAR MORE divided than it was previously and our debt has quadrupled? Obama is just another regular tax and spend liberal like all those before him.....nothin special about this dude anymore.
Ive seen that Documentary.....came on MSNBC (Shocker)......bible camps???? So what? Were you forced against your will to attend one of these by a republican operative? Soooooooo, you blindly watch a documentary and then form your ideas based on a ideological documentary? Wow........it matters none.....liberalism and their socialist ideals are being chumped all over america now. People aren't buying what Obama is selling anymore.
First of all, my dad is 70 years old he retired because he couldn't stand up anymore, but with his unemployment checks and my added money in financial aid, I was able to get out of a depression. Have you ever seen the daily show? I guess not, but this show reasons and finds the faults and hypocracy people in congress make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Increase premiums especialy for the wealthy to help the poor. And who is talking about openimg borders? Thats an over exageration, people should be able to come here for a better life except criminals. Don't you know this country was founded by imigrants looking for a better life?
Also, do you realy believe Obama caused unemployment to go up? Sounds stupid, so i wont bother to reason with you there. Or do you even know what Obamacare is or are you too ignorant to find out? Do you think healthcare saves lifes?
O yea bomb Korea and Iran let's start another war and wait to see who gets nuked.
Furthermore, I suport the primary concept of helping the poor, and stoping the lip service government has towards the wealthy because in todays age, the poor get poorer while the rich gey richer.
Moreover, Congress is divided because of the bs and over exagerations republicans are making.
If that documentary didn't show you the dangers of brain washing then answer me this:
Do you think children make decisions for themselfs or do parents have that control?
What congressmen or person do you prefer to be running for office?
Have you ever used a cross walk, stop at at stop sign or traffic light, benefited from a government backed student loan, marveled at the complexity of an airport?Quote:
Originally Posted by lve2smk
If you answer yes to any of these questions then government has had an impact on you life... think a little.