Super Slime, Am I Doomed?

Well i was checking on the roots today and noticed they were getting a little brown, then i noticed all the slime on the drip supply tubes:( The water temp hangs between 68 abd 73 using frozen bottles. I am using FF growbig, Liquid Karma, superthrive and aqua sheild. also my ppm seems to always stay the same, no decrease what so ever. Nute lock? I am doing a water/tub change tommorow(just did one6 days ago), should i flush with reg phd water for a while. Id like to get the pump out but the 2 plants on the right do not have roots like the rest so im keepin the drippers on them until they get longer. would peroxide help? should i raise the water to the bottom of the pots? this current res has 940 ppm (270 tap) any help is greatly appreciated

Could it be the superthrive?

I usually keep a 5 gallon jug of Ph'd water and some bubble stones gong to help the chlorine evap out. It also helps make it oxygenated if that even matters for soil plants.

Anyway, once I added superthrive and in the next few days I found all this white slimy stuff on the hoses and air stones. It looked something between snot and a big jizz load of cum. I guessed it "came" from superthive and the millions of molecules of worlds.

Please update on what you find.

You know i did just add a boost of st yesterday and noticed all the slime today so it very well could be the st ,some swear by it some dont? this is my first attempt, if it fails i will prob just go soil. feeling a little discouraged but learn learn learn right.

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)1st

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)400watt metal halide
.2) Distance from tops? 26 inches
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)enclosed reflector
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?yes
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?yes
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?18/6 400 watt mh

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) rapid rooters in hydroton dwc
.8) Size of container. 6inch
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?rapid rooter

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?tap with a ph of 7.0
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)ph pen
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)ph up down
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. fox farm frow big 32 tsp, 16 tsp aquashield, 24 tsp liquid karma allin 18 gallons of water
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering? was wattering continuos durin lights on and every 3 hrs fo 1.5 hrs durin dark, once roots reach water dripperi s removed
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) superthrive 1-2 drops per gallon
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate? stable at 5.8
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? no

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?in
20) What size of closet, room or hut?8x5 7ft high
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?on 82 58% off 70 68%
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?no

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) cheese, kandy kush, ww
24) From seeds or clones?seeds
25) Is this an autoflower strain? no

I have another theory....

Could it be the rabid rooter plugs introduced rabies and that's why you're getting slime and foaming at the mouth like a mad dog? It's just a theory at this point. :tin foil hat:

OK so i changed the rez to straight ph water with h202 1/4tsp pg, and the roots r back to a nice white color :) On the down side i noticed one of the girls had red spots or blotches on it:(, things also seem slow for 23 days compared to others i have seen. Any insight or tips from anyone would make my day.

Unless you post very basic questions ( such as How do I water) you probably won't get any answer. Also, people love to post back to argue with eachother if they think you are wrong. Searching is tough too, do you search slime, snot, white stuff, skeet, or what?

Thanks for nothin'

The first thing I do is search out the problem, so yes I did search all that and everything one finds is could be, could be, could be, so thats why I am asking because im thinking it "COULD BE" a nutrient problem but just posting to see what anyone else thinks it "COULD BE" :)

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Originally Posted by ECOBANE

The first thing I do is search out the problem, so yes I did search :)

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Just a note, I didn't mean toward you and, for me, it's difficult to search if you don't know what this mysterious slime is called!

What I meant was people run to the computer for an argument. Wild horses can't keep them from the keys.... But when someone else has an unusual question for help, well then everyone seems to put lots of thought, hesitation, and restraint while posting. I guess it's human nature but I call it "uncommon courtesy".

Hey ECOBANE, I am some what new at the growing thing here. So do not take my advice very serious. You should make sure that your res. is 120% light proof. The blue walmart tote is not very light proof. I add a tsp of 3% walmart or walgreens brand h202 per gallon 2 days after I change out my water it helps keep the slime or whatever at bay. I had a friend that had slime, clear or white will usually clear up with the h202 you get at the hydro store. If the slime is a grayish brown color you are pretty much s.o.l. my friend ended up using a tsp of bleach per gallon to clear up the grayish brown color slime. Make sure you keep your lid closed as much as possible and clean out the res really really good between water changes.
I tried the 6 way manifold at first then trashed it and switched to an air pump and bubble stones and have been working out very well. But if your set up is working then keep up the good grow.
Good luck.

Superthrive has been known to accelerate algae growth and cause slime/airstone buildup.

Ocotillo, what you had was most likely cyanobacteria. It is mistaken for algea but is not green more gray brown slime, snot. Chlorine will not kill it. A product called Physan 20 is he only thing to do the job. Once in a system cyanobacteria causes a biofilm that never goes away. Cyanobacteria is everwhere and there are good cyano and bad cyano. The good keeps the bad in check most of the time. It does not need light to grow only nutes and the right temp. Once on the roots it's suffacates them and looks like root rot and then is root rot.

ECOBANE, what stands out to me is this line.

21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?on 82 58% off 70 68%

That temp swing will cause many problems with algea and cyanobacteria.

However with a tap water of 270 I would think there would be enough chlorine to kill algea.

Sorry Oco that wasnt meant to be thrown at you I just meant in general, im just frustrated first grow and all. Was everyone else this frustrated on their first? Any way Thank you to all that have responded and given me useful information:) I have been flushing for 2 days with h202 1/4 tsp pg and am changing out my tub/rez today without st and withiout the liquid karma, just gonna run growbig and aquashield. i did go through and completely light proofed the whole tub. The slime seems to be gone and the roots are nice and white again. Any ideas on the red spots, Anyone?
Thanks so much

No worries, it's all good especially since your back on track. :thumbsup:

Anyone who tells you they've not been frustrated on more than just their first grow is...... Well, lets just say their less than honest. All that matters now is you stuck with it, figured it out and fixed it.

Believe me, once your first grow is done you won't believe it compared to the "god knows what" crap we used to smoke. Some of those "commercial" crops are nasty harsh and weak.

Keep Growin'!!!!

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Originally Posted by ECOBANE

Sorry Oco that wasnt meant to be thrown at you I just meant in general,

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