red hairs (pic)

so i woke up and found that my smallest sadest plant has some red hairs comeing out...this is strange to me because it is one of the last to be growing up and it looks like it might want to call it quits sooner than the others. it is only a few hairs that look like the rest but red. they come from where i found the first sets of hairs when she started flowering. could this be a hermie? please tell me that it is normal and ok.

the best i can do..the camera is not too good at close ups, also the hairs are verry small. same pic just one is...well u c

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Whats happening?

I cant see didly in your pics but I see the circle you drew.... That area is where the "pre-flowers" form and it would be totally normal to see some pistols there turning brown or red.... That happens as the pistols age and the pre-flower locations are the oldest pistols on the plant.....

Peace and god luck on a health harvest:rasta:

Whats happening?

I cant see didly in your pics but I see the circle you drew.... That area is where the "pre-flowers" form and it would be totally normal to see some pistols there turning brown or red....
That happens as the pistols age and the pre-flower locations are the oldest pistols on the plant.....

Peace and good luck on a healthy harvest:rasta:

Makes sense to watch for the male flowers. Are the hairs just turning or turning and dropping?

Closer pics would help but if the PISTILS are prematurely shriveling/browning and dying then you have a pollinated plant or a hermie as i said its hard to say with those pics. The pistils on the lower buds will be affected first by shriveling up and dying if you have a hermie due to pollen pods forming in the top buds and dropping pollen on to the lower buds first.

Again pistols shows sexual maturity . Meaning if pollenated they can produce seeds and such. It doesnt mean it is ready to harvest or that it has been pollenated or it is gonna hermy.Not saying it cant if stressed. Most anything i have seen done will brown 3-5 weeks before trichomes show it is time to harvest. By those pics you are no where near harvest..

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Originally Posted by bobjob4u

Again pistols shows sexual maturity . Meaning if pollenated they can produce seeds and such. It doesnt mean it is ready to harvest or that it has been pollenated or it is gonna hermy.Not saying it cant if stressed. Most anything i have seen done will brown 3-5 weeks before trichomes show it is time to harvest. By those pics you are no where near harvest..

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This is not true as harvest time is determined by trichome progression and nothing to do with the PISTILS.

(why does everybody here call the PISTOLS ????)

PISTOLS GO BANG BANG :gunfighter2:


any who they all have red hairs as we enter week 7. what gets me tho is that the trichomes are still clear, a few milky but mostly clear...will i ever get to harvest?

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Originally Posted by bluntar

PISTOLS GO BANG BANG :gunfighter2:


any who they all have red hairs as we enter week 7. what gets me tho is that the trichomes are still clear, a few milky but mostly clear...will i ever get to harvest?

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When the trichomes are clear to milky thats when the plant has the maximum THC levels and if you wait for them to go amber the THC has then degraded and changed in to CBN + CBC chemicals.

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cool man, thx alot....i took one last look before the lights went out and found a few amber ones!! yay..was not looking close enough before. now i dont want to kill her hahahah. thank you agean

never would have ben able to make this is photo shop with out a little help from the one we love

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looks cooler when its biger..had to adjust file size tho

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Originally Posted by bluntar

cool man, thx alot....i took one last look before the lights went out and found a few amber ones!! yay..was not looking close enough before. now i dont want to kill her hahahah. thank you agean

never would have ben able to make this is photo shop with out a little help from the one we love

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looks cooler when its biger..had to adjust file size tho

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Time to harvest when you see golden trichomes before the THC levels degrade any more. Fell free to ask me anything you are stuck with and i dont do hydro. Just non organic soil is good for me.
(good luck).

LUDA.
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how do you end up with the top cola looking like that...like its trying to go 4 ways?

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Originally Posted by bluntar

how do you end up with the top cola looking like that...like its trying to go 4 ways?

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Its just a single cola plant and has not been trained or topped/fimmed. Its mostly to do with the way i manipulate the photoperiod during veg to have a plant with many nodes (bud sites) before i start to go 12/12.

LUDA.
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Can you tell us more? I'm interested.

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Originally Posted by bigsby

Can you tell us more? I'm interested.

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Soon as i wake up a little i will be right on it for you.
(that plant was ready in 92 days from ungerminated seed to harvest).

LUDA.

OK these plant/s were started from seeds straight in to pre soaked jiffys and put in a propgator (kept at 74*). it took 3-4 days for them all to sprout from the jiffys. As soon as they sprouted the jiffys were potted in 4" pots and placed under my 400w HPS fitted with a growlux sunmaster bulb. I start my vegging with a 24/0 photoperiod for the first 2 weeks to keep them short and bushy then after 2 weeks of 24/0 they have around 10-20 nodes. After 2 weeks of 24/0 i then switch to 18/6 to get some stretch on them as we know S.A.R.P and the 6hrs of dark is when the plants start to stretch looking for the light (when its dark). After the 4 weeks of vegging this way my plant/s will be around 12" tall with many more nodes then at the 4 week mark i switch to 12/12 and in 8 weeks they are always ready to harvest at around 3ft tall with milky trichomes and are cut and dried for around 2-3 weeks on a washing line. Once fully dried they go into glass mason jars and left to cure for 4 weeks minimum (opening the jars daily "burping the jars). I use the same bulb (400w hps growlux) from sprout to harvest (no bulb changing).

Here is another pic from the top and the seeds i used for this grow.
(please ask about soil and nutes grown in if you need more info)

THANKS.

LUDA.
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So riddle me this. I've always wondered about modifying the light schedule towards the end of the grow to more accurately reflect the natural environment. My thinking was to reduce the light period by 15 minutes every 2 or 3 days for the last two weeks of flower, thereby simulating the onset of fall. The idea being that the plants will beef up flower production sensing the coming winter. I was concerned that this might stress the plants but now I'm thinking I'll give it a try. Thoughts?

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So riddle me this. I've always wondered about modifying the light schedule towards the end of the grow to more accurately reflect the natural environment. My thinking was to reduce the light period by 15 minutes every 2 or 3 days for the last two weeks of flower, thereby simulating the onset of fall. The idea being that the plants will beef up flower production sensing the coming winter. I was concerned that this might stress the plants but now I'm thinking I'll give it a try. Thoughts?

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Most go from 12/12 (late in flowering) to 11/13 or 10/14 to densify the buds but your idea is on track but i suggest just switching from 12/12 2 weeks before harvest to 11/13 or 10/14 rather than the hassle of slowly dropping it day by day. If you are switching photoperiods then its best to keep it simple and stick with it. I just stick to 12/12 until harvest time and only switch photoperoids 3 times 24/0 to 18/6 and then 12/12.

LUDA.
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luda, bigs...what do you think about shock ripening or whatever? ice water then 3 days of darkness then harvest....is it worth it? dose it work?

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Originally Posted by bluntar

luda, bigs...what do you think about shock ripening or whatever? ice water then 3 days of darkness then harvest....is it worth it? dose it work?

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NO its not worth it. Just harvest the plant when its ready. Simple as that. No dark period is required before chopping.

LUDA.
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Timing the Harvest.

Many growers will disagree with us on when the best time is to harvest the buds (female plants). When the plants are left in the ground, and are alive but past the main bloom, the resinous qualities of the plant may become more apparent. The bracts and tiny leaves may swell in size, and the leaves feel thicker. The coating of resin glands will change colour. Leaves often yellow and fall form the plant. Much of the green colour in the flowering buds may also be lost. Harvests of these buds more closely resembles commercial Colombian grass than typical homegrown. The resin content of the dried buds may be higher, and the grass will smoke more harshly than if the buds were younger when picked. You may prefer these qualities in your grass, and some growers insist this grass is stonier. We feel that the grass will give you the highest high when it is picked as described previously. Smoking is a personal experience, and you should try different approaches and come to your own conclusions.

The first time you grow marijuana is largely a learning experience. Most growers can't wait to start their second crop, because they are certain that they'll improve on both the quantity and the quality of their crop, and this is usually true. The wise grower will not put all his proverbial eggs in one basket. It is a good idea to monitor potency by taking samples every few days when harvest time is drawing near, just as such monitoring is for deciding when to harvest growing shoots during vegetative growth.

In any garden, some of the plants will mature sooner than others. Use the plant(s) that is earliest to mature to decide at what point in its development the plant reaches maximum potency. This finding then serves as a guide for harvesting the rest of the plants.

Try to use buds from approximately the same position on the plant each time you sample. Take only enough to make a joint or two. The more you standardise your testing (and this includes your smoking evaluation), the more accurate your results may be.

Final Harvesting.

The time of harvest is a time of joy. It is also a time for caution. Unless the safety of your garden is assured, you will want to harvest quickly, quietly and as efficiently as possible. Ideally, each plant is harvested as it matures, but some of you will have to harvest all at once.

It is best to take cardboard boxes or large, sturdy bags to carry the harvest. You want to harvest the plants with as little crushing or damage to the flowers as possible.

Bring a strong knife, heavy shears, or clippers for cutting the stalks. The quickest way to harvest is to cut each plant at its base. Once the plants are on the ground, cut the stalks into manageable lengths for boxing or bagging. Separate large branches as needed for packing.

The bagged or boxed material should be moved to the curing or drying area as soon as possible. If you let the plants sit in the trunk of a car or in plastic bags, they will start to ferment and small in less than a day.

LUDACRIS.
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so you are saying to pick a bud, roll a few joints with directly from the plant?...i dont know man...i thought you couldnt tell that the final product was gona be like untill it was actually final product...seems like it would be to wet to smoke and it would taste like chlorophyll

also i was wondering, i found a hermie before and it looks likr it pollinated one of my girls, she...IT is full of seeds....will this plant produce polin and pollinate my other plants of just produce seeds

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Originally Posted by LUDACRIS

Its just a single cola plant and has not been trained or topped/fimmed. Its mostly to do with the way i manipulate the photoperiod during veg to have a plant with many nodes (bud sites) before i start to go 12/12.

LUDA.
:)

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WhaWha whaat ! ? Lordy Lordy those are nice... without the manipulation
maneuvers ? ! They look like dat ! ? Shizt, I've gotta do some testing, cuz'n mine are taking to long to grow !

If you have drying space it is MUCH better to pull the plant up from the roots and hang it upside down in a dark place with ventilation for 4-7 days and only then cut off the branches. All of the energy from the roots will go into the buds.

You can do the same thing to tomato plants that have a lot of green tomatoes but you know a winter freeze is coming. They will hang forever and produce red tomatoes one after the other for winter.

Everything I read said roots grow in the dark period not so much the growth... or "Stretching for the light" as you put it luda. If you have some good references for that info id love to read it.

Also ive seen and had buds that grow like that. Actually found out the tops get like that most often than not from it being too hot. Were those leaves in that pic heat damaged?

Anyways... The dark and ice water definitely work. When you decide to harvest take a nug or two, then put the plant in the dark for 2-3 days with ice water then compare the two buds. You will notice a difference and will know for yourself if it works.

Oh I forgot.. Bigsby have you checked out Aquaponicherb's grows? He uses light manipulation as well as having his lights at various positions in his room to emulate the movement of the sun. Very awesome grow.

ok so i added an extra hour of dark to the cycle and i think im gona try the ice water think...is it as easy as ice cold water for the final watering and then no light for three days....i water tomorrow so i took a plant today and only gave it 4 hrs of light...tomorrow ice water for it and then 3 days of dark...before and after pics..i plan on harvesting at least one of my biggest plants on tuesday but if this works i will ice water and keep it dark untill friday so ill do before and after pics on that also..

here is before

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Everything I read said roots grow in the dark period not so much the growth... or "Stretching for the light" as you put it luda. If you have some good references for that info id love to read it.

Also ive seen and had buds that grow like that. Actually found out the tops get like that most often than not from it being too hot. Were those leaves in that pic heat damaged?

Anyways... The dark and ice water definitely work. When you decide to harvest take a nug or two, then put the plant in the dark for 2-3 days with ice water then compare the two buds. You will notice a difference and will know for yourself if it works.

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Seedlings stretch due to the influence various factors. In other words the way the genotype is expressed is determined by the biotic and abiotic factors affecting its growth. The site where the plants are grown may be conducive to stretching due to a nutrient deficiency or other factors like temperature or day length.

The source of the seed is also important. If the environment that the plants were from originally was consistant from year to year (for instance, indoors) and/or encouraged stretchy plants (crowding), natural selection may have passed on the trait for stretchy plants. If the seeds were from hybrid plants that were crossed "Willy-nilly" the variation of the offspring will blur the distiction of phenotypes.

When plants stretch due to competition for light, this is known as the "shade avoidance response phenotype" (SARP). The light reflected off of other plants has less red in it because the leaves of the other plants absorbed it already. This is how the plant knows how close it is to its neighbors. When there is less red, the plant stretches so it can compete better for the light. HPS lights are high in red spectrum, so plants grown under them stretch less.

Plants match their phenotype with the environment, but this can depend on other factors. Temperature and photoperiod can affect the response to red light by limiting which phenotypes are expressed. Higher temperatures, shorter photoperiods and dense planting make the plant more sensitive in its response to the amount of red.

The SARP is really an interaction between abiotic factors and the quality of light. The size of a plant that has stretched may be larger than a plant grown under a full spectrum, but overall yield will be less. A plant grown under a short photoperiod is more sensitive to red, but a plant with a long photoperiod period will stretch regardless of the spectrum because it has time to make a longer stem. In fact under longer photoperiods, the plants become less sensitive to red because seedling elongation affects the health of the adult plant.

The seedling is aware of it surroundings. The SARP isn't affected by photoperiod in a seedling because the seedling has to be aware of the density of the population, but if the day-length is short enough to induce flowering, then they will stretch. An elongated plant costs more to grow because your growing more stem and less bud. So under conditions of dense planting the temp and the photoperiod determne how close to plant to minimize stretching.
LUDACRIS.

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So are you quoting yourself as a reference for the info?

I mean I typed cannabis SARP in yahoo and that what you pasted was the only thing I could find. No sources or anything. Just two sites with that exact thing pasted. I would like to read some more about this...

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So are you quoting yourself as a reference for the info?

I mean I typed cannabis SARP in yahoo and that what you pasted was the only thing I could find. No sources or anything. Just two sites with that exact thing pasted. I would like to read some more about this...

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Plants stretch in the dark looking for light and thats it. Its not rocket science.

What more do you need to know or dont you understand science or plant botany ???????.

And yes these documents are from my files (copied and pasted).

BECAUSE I DONT LIKE TYPING.
(i have many forums to feed and dont waste my time when i have everything to hand after 15yrs of growing).

(why type what i have stored in my documents ?????? when i can simply upload them).

LUDA.
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Well it seems like you enjoyed typing when you changed all the words from that mandala germination page to your liking and end the post with your name like its your work. Thats just silly.

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Originally Posted by LUDACRIS

Plants stretch in the dark looking for light and thats it. Its not rocket science.

What more do you need to know or dont you understand science or plant botany ???????.

And yes these documents are from my files (copied and pasted).

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Well I guess I dont have to understand botany or science if I just keep files and paste shit when asked right? Then I could just change peoples work and pretend its mine! Then everyone will put up with my assclown attitude and think I know it all.

What do you think?

Slices his way around ! Any Ol'way heeheeee ! Hey, it's like Music.
Knowledge is, just a bunch of " nutes ! " Who cares where it comes from.
as long as someone is kind enough to spread the wealth, ( if you will ) then,
hooray for them, Grateful are we !

Butt i like the company i keep here and i know GTorD is only jousting:stoned:

Ready to practice,
Slide Dobro
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only time will tell, i appreciate any information that i can not find on my own or is accredited with experience....then i choose what to do with that information.

anyone care about my thread or u guyz just gona flame each other now?

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Well I guess I dont have to understand botany or science if I just keep files and paste shit when asked right? Then I could just change peoples work and pretend its mine! Then everyone will put up with my assclown attitude and think I know it all.

What do you think?

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REPORTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by bluntar

only time will tell, i appreciate any information that i can not find on my own or is accredited with experience....then i choose what to do with that information.

anyone care about my thread or u guyz just gona flame each other now?

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I have tried hard to help but thier is always some kind of troll out to wreck every thread i post on and this is just one of them.

(sorry).

LUDACRIS.

This board is used to learn and share info. with others. Not slam each other. Ludicris i think some of the older members of the board feel that you might be trying to profess to being the cannabis king . after just showing up not long ago. Most the good members go on fact and enjoy sharing there knowledge. I may have changed my name several times, but i have been round here for years. I would love to see you go head to head . winner takes all with Rusty trichrome.....

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Originally Posted by LUDACRIS

I have tried hard to help but thier is always some kind of troll out to wreck every thread i post on and this is just one of them.

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Dude, be serious. I defended you when you were flamed without reason. But now I have to caution you. GToD was simply asking you to quote your sources when you cut and paste. Fair enough. Don't be so quick off the mark. People here know their stuff so when they see something new or something that challenges their understanding they are going to question it. That doesn't make them trolls. We are all looking to advance our knowledge and abilities.

You have valuable contributions to make. Take some time to get to know users here and then engage in debate. Don't be the one to drag it down into the gutter. Even when attacked, take the high road. Point out the unnecessary personal attack and move on. God knows there are users who can't seem to debate without throwing out invectives. Resist the temptation to retaliate and you do us all a favor.

Peace.