Does Space End?

Think about this... If you travel and travel trillions of light years away from Earth, do you think there is an end to Space? Does Space go in every direction for infinity, like up, down, left, right? It is so strange to actually think about this question. Also, if it does go forever, why hasn't there been any contact with anything other than us here on Earth? Or do we come in contact with things from beyond Earth everyday and we just don't know it. You know what is cool also, human beings have been on earth for millions of years, and just in the past hundred have we been to outer space. Pretty Crazy if you ask me...

Maybe if you go far enough out you end up back where you started.

Yes...it is infinite. The reason I know this: I know all. : )

Isnt the universe expanding..or shrinking????? Any astrophysicists here??

if one believes in the big bang then there must be a limit to our universe out there on the fringes and if i recall correctly, it was mapped or found a few years ago (the background "bang" of the big bang) ...or what some scientists think is the edge of the expansion. but if you are of the christian-judean background, you might think of it as a neverending or a universal universe. but then you would have to block any chance of there being alternative universes as there wouldn't be enough room left, being that this universe is universal...uni, latin for one and versal latin for...ummm...vessel...yeah, that's it vessel. uni-vessal...one ship. so there ya go...

my brain hurts now...but one more thought on this before i medicate...i just can not fathom the fact that we are on the one and only plane in the one and only one universe...let alone the 'fact' that eternity is decided upon solely by our belief's during this short life period we're currently experiencing...

When scientists speak of the universe expanding or retracting, they're talking about all it's matter, NOT space itself. I don't think there's an ending to space, a limit seems far more unlikely, I mean it's not like there's a wall there.

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

Maybe if you go far enough out you end up back where you started.

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You mean like that game where you have control of a rocket spaceship and if you hover off the screen, you come directly opposite of where you came?

how can space end, and how can people not belive there is intelligent life on another planet

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Originally Posted by Sensi Super Skunk

You mean like that game where you have control of a rocket spaceship and if you hover off the screen, you come directly opposite of where you came?

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Something like that.... Space is infinite I think. Or perhaps does have a limit. What is at that limit. hmm I dont know..

Is there any evidence that the Big Bang was the only Bang? Maybe there were others but they are so far away that their light hasn't reached us yet.

My theory, like that of many scientist, is that the space is always expanding, expanding at a rate that too fast to actually caculate. But...to me...it is very hard to think that something like space has no end...very. I ponder about this so much...man it's just so confusing. Something like the fact there is no gravity out there, and that there is no up or down or any sense of direction, is something that I can imagine. But space being endless, without any boundries? Subjects like astronomy, the Big Bang Theory, and space really interest me. New question: Does anyone think that their could possibly be other dimensions?

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

Is there any evidence that the Big Bang was the only Bang? Maybe there were others but they are so far away that their light hasn't reached us yet.

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I think that the Big Bang Theory is based on the very first one, the very beginning of the universe. The one that made it possible for everything to exist, from the numerous stars to the various gases and elements.

I hope it doesnt...

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Originally Posted by Mojavpa

Isnt the universe expanding..or shrinking????? Any astrophysicists here??

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I hope its not shrinking..

I think all the things mentioned are possible, plus many we haven't thought of or can comprehend. We've only been down from the trees for about 100,000 years, and have barely managed to survive without killing ourselves through sheer stupidity. To believe we have the answers to some of these questions is award winning arrogance.

That we dare to speculate at least shows there's some hope.

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i realized this at a very very young age in fourth grade when my teacher said the order goes city, country, continent, planet, solar system, galaxy, universe, thats it...whats after universe? it cant just STOP...there CANT be an end to existance it is impossible to comprehend if you think about it. it also makes you feel very insignificant tot hink your 5-6 feet tall in a univers with incalcuable size. and if there is an end to the universe...how is that possible..i mean do you just come to a stop and eveything ends, like...something has to be in something else, that si where infinity comes from, therefore the universe is never ending

Like....whoa..........

my head hurts :(

later

I read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and it brought up a very good theory/point. Space is never ending but with the human mind is placed restrictions. We always think of HOW big or small something is. So therefore space really has no size, it is just the human mind placing restrictions on something.(anyone get what I'm saying)

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Originally Posted by Looker

I hope its not shrinking..

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Acutally, I am kinda of a TLC, Discovery channel buff. and according to Science the universe is shrinking......

Hi Richieguy,

I remember that from the book too, it sounds like a pretty good description of our mental limits.

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How about answering a question with another question?

Does space end?

I don't know, does it begin?

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Originally Posted by 4252

How about answering a question with another question?

Does space end?

I don't know, does it begin?

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It began when God was smoking some really strong bud and started thinking, "wouldnt it be funny to create a universe with units called atoms, that will eventually bring about life and then humans? And the humans will think that they are smoking some really good shit but little do they know the kind of shit I'm on? Hah Hah Hah" So he coughed up a loogie and it became the universe.

4252 Yeah it was a GREAT book. Short too. And that's exactly the kind of shit I'm saying. Speaking of which, for all you that think there is an end, where IS the beginning. Kind of arrogant of mankind to think that they know such a vast amount about the universe when we haven't even put a foot on the closest planet to us.

Space will extend as far as you travel. The reason being there is no void space, so its really a misleading term. All space is filled with matter or energy of some sort.

But to your question, you could travel as far as you want, and space will keep on extending with you if you are the furtherst away from the center point.

You guys got it all wrong.

Remember, we have only 5 senses with which we are able to experience 'life' as we know it.

Take sound for example....the human ear can hear only a very small spectrum of sound frequencies. A dog for example can hear sound frequencies we never hear.

Take sight for example....an elephant will see the world 500X more blurry and slow than an eagle. Again, the human eye can see only a small spectrum of lights. However, if we use tools, like, Xrays, we can then 'see' a new dimension.

The point being, we are able to experience all that is with only 5 senses, and, those same 5 senses are very limited in their scope and capabilities. Oh so very limited.

If you really want to know whats 'going on out there', don't look to the stars...

You need to look for the 6th sense. And its all around you.

Happy soul searching....

hardon, you shoulda started a new post about that, your way off key there man

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

When scientists speak of the universe expanding or retracting, they're talking about all it's matter, NOT space itself. I don't think there's an ending to space, a limit seems far more unlikely, I mean it's not like there's a wall there.

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...universe expanding or retracting, they're talking about all it's matter
Yes! You are CORRECTSIR! [/Ed McMahon]


ending to space... not like there's a wall there
My brain is not capable of comprehending the infinite nature of space, so I don't know. But what if there WAS a wall? Would there be only ONE side of it (the side we "run into" at the bounds of the universe), or does a wall necessarily have to have TWO sides? If space ends at our side of the wall, what do you call the other side of the wall...? lol)


Hardon- are you sure you didn't...

nm, lol. Maybe the thread starter asked the wrong question!

Sense young dealing with infinity and its ramifications has been a headache. I agree with the limits for the human mind, we are linier time creatures and the universe is not, science I believe knows that certain things can be in two places at one time, this equals time travel and therefore not linier. This supports dimensions in the universe seem pretty probable to me, also related to perception, parallel dimensions is another thing, a guy in another universe just like me but comprised of a whole different set of decisions.

I think life is cheep and abundant in the universe, water is everywhere and so is light and elements. On the humans going into space the last 100 tears, science already knows the modern human brain has existed for at least 250 thousand years, if we know it only took us 10 thousand years to go from stone age to space that means we have probably done this at least 25 times sense then, with the church trying to stop us as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by motoman

Sense young dealing with infinity and its ramifications has been a headache. I agree with the limits for the human mind, we are linier time creatures and the universe is not, science I believe knows that certain things can be in two places at one time, this equals time travel and therefore not linier. This supports dimensions in the universe seem pretty probable to me, also related to perception, parallel dimensions is another thing, a guy in another universe just like me but comprised of a whole different set of decisions.

I think life is cheep and abundant in the universe, water is everywhere and so is light and elements. On the humans going into space the last 100 tears, science already knows the modern human brain has existed for at least 250 thousand years, if we know it only took us 10 thousand years to go from stone age to space that means we have probably done this at least 25 times sense then, with the church trying to stop us as much as possible.

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Hmm, I had never thought of it like that before. I have always considered life to be VALUABLE and PRECIOUS, instead of CHEAP and ABUNDANT


But yeah, that'd be crazy, man.

Thats our general opinion is that life is VALUABLE and PRECIOUS because it suites us well, keeps us alive. Even a nat wants to live.

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Originally Posted by motoman

Thats our general opinion is that life is VALUABLE and PRECIOUS because it suites us well, keeps us alive. Even a nat wants to live.

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Understood. And you are of the opinion that life is ABUNDANT and CHEAP.

Thank you, actually. I now better understand where alot of what goes down in the world starts (I assume you are not the only one who regards life this way).

Sadly, I think we'll never know. This could have happened millions of times now. We could have evolved way past our technology time and time again and have been wiped out by one of the trillions of things that can do such. This exact same question could have happend during the last big bang, or the one before that (if you believe in this theory) and we will never know.

If you honestly believe we're alone in this crazy thing we call space, then you're an insane. We're just a grain of sand on a beach, we're nothing.

To go back to the question about a wall, maybe the universe and beyond is sort of like "The Truman Show" where we are all part of a universal TV show, and our world around us is just the set. Maybe one day someone will reach the end and see a door, and "god" will tell them that they can live here and live the rest of their life out in peace and harmony. Then the man/or woman will open the door to the real world and that will be the end of the series. Whoa.

You see the universe as a place far away and large and a lot of empty space and question does it end...is there other life....whats one the other side.....

Everything we 'see', we are 'seeing' with 2 eyes. Thats it. Two eyeballs limited in the spectrum and the vibrations we can sense.

In this whole massive place called the universe, do you really think that two human eyeballs can 'see' what is really there????

Our eyes are so primitive, the only purpose they serve is to allow us to find food and avoid danger.

The 6th sense people....what is it for?

Do not believe that your eyes give you a true representation of the universe and whats out there.

It is not the things we CAN see that give you answers....

"...the universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it is stranger than you can possibly imagine..."

Isaac Osimov

apparently there has been a neverending cycle of "big bangs" that all follow the same pattern, ie, the bang, continual expansion and then shrinking back down to the 'blob' of atoms that are the building blocks of the universe, this blob then explodes and it all begins again.

question is; if these atoms are the start of everything, where did they come from?
everything AFTER the bang is easily explained

i am a man of science, but NO ONE knows the answer to this one.

in religion, of course, this easily explained, god made it (like,duh,man!)
Monotheistic religions generally maintain this notion;
2000 years ago jesus stated, shortly before his death, that he must "tend to his other flocks". The Q'uaran (bible of islam) makes reference to seven worlds with people in gods image, this is one of them.
I have no idea what the talmud has to say about it, as its fucking strange and i cant make head nor tail of it...

but basically all this kind of shit has made me wonder about my "hard line scientific" upbringing, but then again i dont have a clue really, and i dont think anyone ever will.

but sure fuck it, this stuff makes many a head hurt, hit a bong for me mofos

Just a thought...

If the Universe is infinite, that means that an infinite number of EVERY possibility exists in it. You can't dispute that.

So... there must be somewhere where someone created something that will destroy the universe in 1 second... it didn't happen though did it?

Or perhaps a machine that can destroy the entire universe in 1 second, i.e. causing transfer of information much much faster than the speed of light in defiance of the laws of physics, is an impossibility.

Im blazed but ill try and explain my theory. Space is nothing. Nothing is simply the absence of something. Sure there are planets, glaxies, and all sorts of shit in the space but they are not space, they are just in space. Space is just the area that these objects have the potential to occupy. And if the number of these objects keeps getting bigger and they keep showing up farther and farther away, there must be some vacuum for them to expand in at such a high rate for eternity. Now I dont believe these objects will continue to appear deeper into space forever, i believe that there will eb a big crunch. But that space that they had the bility to occupy will still be there. PEACE

Okay, so most of you guys understand the "Big Bang Theory", right? This is my theory on why scientist believe that space is constantly expanding: Take my "water ballon theory" for example. Imagine a tiny water ballon that is so condensed with water that the water pressure inside is uncaculatible. Also, this water ballon is very unstable. Then all of a sudden, it explodes and water goes in every direction at once! (Note: There is no gravity) Like I said, the very condensed water (energy) pressure was uncaculatible so, the water continuously expands in every direction, like space.