Well looks like the CFLs got ditched today because santa left a 400w MH/HPS chimney
also a 4" inline fan with carbon scrubber
4 yo-yo light hangers
and a new duct for exhaust
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Well looks like the CFLs got ditched today because santa left a 400w MH/HPS chimney
also a 4" inline fan with carbon scrubber
4 yo-yo light hangers
and a new duct for exhaust
this is the only time can snap pics is when the MH is warming up...the camera has black bars...
Here is the scrubber and the inline that is hung with yo-yos as well to keep vibration noise down
just got back from store got 4in dryer hose, more extension cords, some black sheeting to cover the cab to lightproof it, and velcro tape to cover the door for easy access..
now i need the lens for the reflector to make a "cool tube" style effect
ill get some more pics of that process...
its a big jump from 5 CFLs and a 70w HPS...to having this big ol light...
the babies are on day 21..and were on 24/0 light cycles with the CFLs
now think were gonna veg for 3 more weeks while LST and sex them before we throw the screen for SCroG in...
thinking about switching to 18/6, dont know when though, temps are at like 85-88 deg with no inline fan hooked up
LMK what you think, tips suggestions?
i loved ur last grow so you kno im subcribed
thanks man...wish i could have finished in that desk...wanted to prove how stealthy it could be to grow these plants...
this new setup is sweet i have no height restrictions, i can change the size if need be, its just a PVC frame, covered in painters plastic, just bought black and you cant even see the light through it...
im having temp problems partly because im not venting into the attic yet, and my reflector lens isnt on either but i do have the inline fan connected to one end of the hood
heres the inline fan with carbon scrubber in the attic...
not worried about light leaks its in a walk in closet...
let me know what you think? i got the temps down finally to 82-85 degree lights on 24/0
no plexiglass to create cool tube effect on reflector either...that will come soon..
the 4"inline is making it hard to blow weed smoke out my window, sucks it back in
2nd pic is looking through an old exhaust hole that was taped up...
as you can see exhaust goes straight out the top
Should be a nice grow here. I've heard some bad reviews about those yo-yo's for lights. I'd say just get some chains with the clips like mountain climbers use and there are no worries about that crashing on top of your plants, or worse causing a fire. Best rule I heard was that if you wouldn't take a bath under the light, shouldn't have plants under it either :twocents:
Happy growing :jointsmile:
thanks finn...i admire your grows...i had a really popular one in my sig...never got to finish
this will officially be the first time i can actually flower a plant and harvest it and smoke it!
hopefully i can achieve a smokeable yield...im just relieved i got the temps down to 80 last night think it was about 75 or 76 with lights off only had a 4 hr dark period because i hooked the timer up last night, these ladies(hopefully) have been under 24/0 since june 17th
im still clueless on when to take clones and what period of time i will be able to see sex signs...
from what i read you must clone in veg cycle but you must induce flowering to provide sex indicators...
i plan on scrog but dont want to have to take a clone or take out a male with the screen in place...
any helpful hints? i cant find an straight forward answer
If you want to Scrog then you need to know you have females. Otherwise it won't work as well and it'll be a lot of wasted time and effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by oturbojoeo4o
You can take clones up to 2 weeks into flowering, just don't over-do it and stress it too much. You should see signs of sex within 7-10 days of 12/12.
Also, it's better to know how much stretch there is with flowering to get an idea of how to fill in the screen.
My advice would be to do plenty of LST in veg and then flower them out. You can take some clones while still in veg and if they have a problem rooting you will still have time to take more. Document the stretch with pics and then next grow you will know how much of the screen you should fill before flowering, anywhere from 30-70%. With my TW I went with about 60-70% (9 weeks flowering time) and the screen filled in quite nicely. Don't expect the first or second scrog attempt to be perfect. Takes time to know your strain and growing conditions. When you scrog I also recommend plenty of LST before the screen. Otherwise the main stem will be harder to control and will grow past all the other branches.
CDOT grow guide has a whole section on cloning. Click CTRL + F and type in cloning. Should have all the info you need about cloning.
If you have any questions just holler. :jointsmile:
i love fimming, this is the first time i actually have a bit of headroom for plants to grow, but im waiting to see what my average temps are, today is the first full day of 18/6, this is day 23 in 5.5in square pots, next will be 3gal then 5 gal i believe...
thats my plan but shit never goes that well...i found a cool scrog screen 2x2in
this is all just a learning process, this is the first experience with this design and light setup
hey man VERRY NICE SETUP 5 STARS THERE
natrensland thanks man! im excited, i got all the new equipment all at once so its all new to me...
be back with pics later
lookin good man keep it up
did a whole bunch of LST, got the tempered glass to seal off the 400w hood
and replaced all the exhaust hose from dryer style hose that ripped like aluminum foil...switched it to the type that is like a slinky
temps are at 81 degrees with room temp at 78...
ill try and get pics tonight...my damn phone makes black bars sucks...
Heres some pics
did more LST they turn up with 12 hrs seems like
pic 5 is the tall and hard stalked one, shes hard to LST
pretty sure this is day 25 or 26 lol
pic 2 is the weird growing stalk, its twisted right above the soil...and the leaves are super fat on it
pic 3 shows the height and how far light it...im so glad the tempered glass is in to make the cool tube effect now..cuts back almost 5 degrees
pic 4 lookin good on secondary growth catchin up
pic 5 more LST using twine
pic 1 still have some room to move the light up...this is why they are LST just incase...plus need the extra bushyness for the scrog to be efficient dont know if you can see the glass reflection...
pic 2 here is the new exhaust tubing hooked up...love this new tubing because its flexable unlike the hard dryer tubing style that was before, now the lights and fan can be moved around easily
pic 3 all the babies soaking up the MH...guess will veg till day 40? dont know
when to do a FIM? guess soon...dont know if i should FIM the secondary growth to get some growth tips...
also dont know what sex they are, but i would really like to take clones, which plant do you think they should come from...
maybe take clones in flowering? then try a SOG? dont know....so many options, maybe start clones in hydro and use the other cab with CFLs and till about 2-3 weeks then throw them in with the 4 plants that are growing now with the HPS....
gimme some suggestions
normally what i would do if i was growing from bag seed i would take 4 clones from each plant once the clones are rooted take one clone from each and flip them to 12/12 so you can find out the sex... you kno the rest
ps just make sure that u mark ur clones so u kno which plant they came from
got 3 clones under some cfls..getting ready to flower them in a week to see sex then flowering the big girls...
lots of LST and FIMing and topping going on....i took a cellphone pic but it leaves lines
lokkin good joe
lots more LST last night...clones havent grown yet...
ill get pics tonight...dont know when to flower...figured here in the next couple days once i figure out what the clones are doing...dying or growing lol
lil Babies!!
yes 4 big sisters and 4 lil babies to be exact
1)the girls (hopefully)
2)the mother is shes a female, we will see
3)cloning cab and growcab
New camera
i would flower pretty soon if i were you. The plants are gunna stretch 2-3 times the size during flower and your also gunna need some room between the light and plant tops.
once the clones root i would switch to 13/11 and flower those babies.
HMbigbud nice cam. You are a green thumb with those clones. So how many clones are there all together. Dude put a pic up of the new nutrients you showed me today. I can barely type with this keyboard. Cya later
well me and bigbud (finally got him to get an account) still got about 16inch to move the light up and like 20 feet of PVC left over incase we need to extend the height a bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by drudown11
but LST is the best so far....plants would be about foot half tall if they werent leaned over and curled around the 5gal
hope they grow 4 times as big!
13/11? never heard of it..Quote:
Originally Posted by drudown11
:stoned:But yeah I picked up a bottle of Bud Candy and a bottle of BloomBastic today. we added Bud candy today to all the plants but we have to wait til the last 4 weeks of flowering to use the Bloombastic.
Yea alot of people havent ever tried it. Cannabis will flower under 13 hours of sunlight, hell even 14 hours kicks most outdoor plants into flower. In my state if your an outdoor grower your harvesting your crop around mid september or october. If you check the sunrise and sunset times you will notice that the plants never recieve 12/12 until october 1st. Fuck, ill be harvesting before they even get the "standard" amount of 12/12 sunlight most indoor plants get. You will actually notice that plants naturally recieve 13 hours of light most of their flowering period.Quote:
Originally Posted by HMBigBUd
You get 1 hour more of photosynthesis and growth. I notice an increase in yield, and a shorter time to harvest(by about 1 week)
Be careful with the bloombastic at first it can really burn the shit out of them. I never went over 1/2 strength. Its good stuff, just a little strong. Its kind of a bitch to mix too, it has a really thick consistency.
day 43
New cabinet. Turned old cabinet into a mother/cloning room. Day 4 into flowering. One plant is showing signs that its a female. the others are still too early to tell.
day 10 flower
more plus clones
lol i posted pics up under HMbigbud account last night....i dont know how because i was on another level of fucked up
anyways lasat post and last 2 pics are the vegging female clones....the ones on the right of the cloning tray are purple kush and the left is our unknown bagseed....
seems like we have 2 males and 2 females in the flowering chamber, with a handful of clones that are a mixture of sexes...
one female is showing many pistals
havent done any LST since flowing has begun...think might have to do some branches just to make room for more secondary...
also planning on making a PVC frame with chicken wire for ScROG effect, but im still wating on definite sex signs before i waste time training them into the screen...
Quote:
Originally Posted by oturbojoeo4o
Yea using seeds with SCROG can be a bitch sometimes. Ive spent 2 monthes training and vegging this huge bush. Had to cut it down because it was a male. Its really a pain in the ass when you have to cut it out of the screen and untagle it from your other plants.
Looking good joe. The buds are coming just hold on. lol
1) the bagseed female clones
2) the first cab is in its 3rd role, as a storage unit
3) various equipment on the shelf
4) good looking female, day 10 flower, has pair of pistals on top 5 nodes
5) good ol 400w HPS and exhaust
soon to mount carbon scrubber in the tent...