Super-boost for plants: Grows 2-3 times faster, healthier & more potent.

1. Create organic bio-degradable compost & fertilizer from it.

Take all food leftovers and put in a separate trash-bin. When full empty it into a pre-digged large hole in your backyard/garden or compost bin. After a month or 3, depending on temperatures, humidity, organic material used etc, it should look more or less like soil in the compost hole / bin. Of course if you keep adding material, the soil will be at the older level meaning the bottom of the hole / bin. It is best to have several holes / bins and fill one up one by one and let them do their work. Add a large amount of earthworms to speed up process - they are easily found in your gardens soil just dig a bit.

Once you got the compost-soil, fill a large sock with a good amount of it, tie it up and put it in a bucket of water - pull it up and down some just as you would with a tea bag. Then let it sit there for a day. The next day the water should be very dark brown colored. Fill this natural homemade organic fertilizer into appropriate bottles / cans / containers of your choice. Store in a dark and cold place.

Feed plants with a 50-50 mix of this nutrional fertilizer every 2nd or 3rd watering.

2. Heat water, add a couple spoons of molasses per bottle you intend to fill, and add urine to 1/5th part of the bottles volume. This will provide more easy access for microbes that are beneficial for the plants, in addition to nitrogene which the plants also love. If you have a plant that looks a bit "down" with yellowing leaves etc, try give him alittle of this mix and see the results of recovering after a couple days. Feed this to plants about every 4th to 5th watering.

3. Create extra carbondioxide (CO2) for your plants. This alone can boost the growth and make them twice as fast growing.

Simply take several bottles, or larger container of your choice, and add 1 cup sugar to every 2 liters warm water along with 1 spoon yeast. I personally recommand adding some cut up / blended fruits as well such as apples, grapes, oranges, as this procedure will produce alcohol and with fruits in you will get some wine as an additional bonus.

Once ingredients are mixed (remember using warm water) in your bottle / container of choice, put a lid on tightly and pin a small hole in the lid. The hole will release the CO2 gasses and is a MUST even if you just want to make wine and not use the gasses for the plants, as without the hole the bottle WILL explode and you will have a mess. The hole should be about needle sized, so using a needle to pin a hole is fine.

Now place these bottles or containers with the lids with their holes around your plants. A suggestion is to connect a hose to the top lid and leading the hose into the plant area so you can have larger containers & bottles in a different nearby location.

This will ferment and create CO2 for 1-2 weeks. After 2 weeks max you should take the contents of the bottles and change and do the same procedure to create more CO2. If you want to save the alcohol / wine you make by this carefully siphon out the liquid leaving a small part with the yeast solids and fruit parts at bottom. You may need to filter it first to discard fruit solids, and then let it sit for a while to make the yeast solids sink back to the bottom before siphoning off.

If you want good instructions on making wine or other alcohol simply google "brewing wine" , "brewing beer", "brewing alcohol" etc and you can use any recipe you find just make sure to lead the releasing gas to your plants.

These bottles or containers should be shaken once or twice a day - remember holding a finger on the hole in the lid when doing this or it will get splashy.

The bottles or containers should NOT be filled completely, leave about 1/5th space empty as it will foam and bubble during fermentation and you dont want that spilling out.

- Conclusion:

Either one of these 3 steps alone will greatly enhance your plants and make them healthier and grow better. Combining all 3 are excellent and will speed up growing with up to 3 times faster , maybe even more, and the plants will be much stronger, healthier, producing better yields and more potent buds.

As a sidenote, the crap from earthworms contains excellent nutrition and natural growth hormones which are excellent for plants, so try get a large bunch of them into step 1 to further increase the quality of the compost-fertilizer.

Good luck to anyone dreaming about this.

Example pics. 24 hours between photos.

Photo 1 : June 28 - Notice the bigger plant.

Photo 2: June 29 - Notice the bigger plant, spread much more out of the container and also taller (unfortunately the photo do not show that since taken above). Also note plant in upper right, sticking out of container with leaves and compare to photo 3 which was taken the day before (June 28).

Photo 3: June 28 - Notice the plant is down within the container, as compared to photo 2 above which was taken 1 day later (June 29).

Photo 4: June 28. Notice plant not so dense, compare with photo 5 taken one day later (June 29).

Photo 5: June 29. Plant from photo 4 one day later, notice more bushy and dense.

Of course these photos do not serve as prime examples since only one day passed, but before using the above mentioned system to boost them they were many days without any noticeable change, in fact almost a week without much growth. Will post photos some days later to compare.

Continued example photos 24 hours after last ones.

Photo 1: July 29th.

Photo 2: July 30th. Same plant as photo 1. Notice more upright leaves, healthier looking, and starting to grow out of container.

Photo 3: July 29th.

Photo 4: July 30th. Same plant as photo 3. Again notice more healthy looking, thicker leaves, and starting climbing more out of the container.

Photo 5:July 30th. The third plant in yellow container, compare to photo 2 in PREVIOUS post (June 29th). Notice healither looking, more upright and thicker leaves, and growing more out of the box.

Some additional information:

Light used are simply two 65 w CFL's of 6500K (meaning they are vegging). Lights on 24/7 for constant chlorophyll production during vegging. Tinfoil is used as reflectors covering all parts of the insidie as well as top - dull side facing towards plants and brighter side away (avoids hotspots & plant burns - this CAN happen with CFL's too contrary to what many claims).

The plants are grown in a concealed location without any fans or ventilation, packed well into tinfoil and covered up.

Fan/Ventilation is not used simply due to the CFL not becoming too warm, and since using carbondioxide (CO2) production to increase growth ventilation and fans are unwanted as that will decrease the amount of CO2 by blowing it away and letting it out of the system. The heat within the "chamber" is approximately 25C I would estimate, though this has not been measured.

The plants have been modified with different techniques, some of them have been LST'ed (bent down with binders to make them grow horizontally so new colas/bud tops grows up as new plants from the main stem which is growing pushed down - excess leaves removed to expose the nodes for more light, making the plants more bushy and dense and not taking so much height)

Some have been supercropped (somewhat similar to LST, gently pinching with fingers and bending stems until inner part of stem is broken and it hangs down horizontally on its own - this serves a similar purpose to LST and also makes the plant rebuild the "breaking point" in a way that makes it actually transfer MORE nutritions and water to the point above it, meaning better buds, quicker growth etc).

Some have been topped - meaning that the main top has been cut off right where there are two leaves and nodes growing at each side of it. This will make these two new nodes grow into two new tops, so you will have a plant with two tops instead of one, producing more. If you are lucky the top you cut off may grow back so you get 3 tops - this usually happens when topped at very early stage (when it has about 2 levels of leaves). New tops growing can also be topped to get more tops. But dont overdo it.

Leaves are also being trimmed and cut off, to allow more light to important parts (nodes, new colas, bud points - the new tops). When doing this and cutting of a leaf near to the main stems growing point where it got a node (or a branch or new top's with leaves in similar way) this will help growth of new branches from those nodes, and if LST'ed or otherwise pushed down, supercropped etc, these branches will turn into new tops / colas producing more buds and more branches). Around 50% of leaves can safely be trimmed off to allow for more light to reach the good parts. You can also cut parts of the leaves instead of the whole leaves to let light pass to areas densely covered.

And finally, combination of all the above is applied to couple of the plants. When doing any of these methods, do one at a time and let the plant recover for a few days before doing more, and do not overdo things, let it grow for some time before topping more etc.

Attached a photos of the setup covered at mentioned packed in well with tinfoil. Hose shown leading CO2 gas to the plants produced from wine-brewing container also shown on photos. Inside shown with bottles producing more CO2.

Doesn't get much more ghetto than that, lol. Have you had success with this set-up before?

Looks like you're overwatering and likely some heat stress and lack of fresh air. Possible ph issues too.

Tiz a good idea to know what the dangers are, especially when it come to e-coli and salmonella poisoning from compost teas. (which most folks spray on their meds) Likely a bad idea to make yourself sick, or even kill yourself or others in an uninformed attempt to maximize your meds.

Necessary reading for those that wish to continue with the compost teas:
Compost Tea Claims

Good luck with it though...:jointsmile:

Nice link Rusty, good info....... I think everyone using tea should read..:thumbsup:

One should NEVER spray anything except for water on the plants themselves, nutritions such as fertilizer should obviously be put directly into the soil carefully avoiding any "splashing" on any part of the plant. I do spray them with carbonated water (water with carbon dioxide - CO2), as this do help the plants absorb a bit more of the CO2 from that water. Doing so, use carbonated water with as little other minerals and other things as possible, specially sodium which often is quite high in some brands and will leave white crystals on the leaves when it dries).

Since this thread is in "advanced techniques" I somewhat expect people whom are here to be familiar with what you mention though, and if not at least they are now :)

I do not think there is any heat stress as only 2 x 65w CFL's are used. The temperature inside the "grow box" is pretty much perfect from my tests, and the lack of ventilation or fans is no problem but rather positive as mentioned.

There IS a slight overwatering, but that was done on purpose as I had to leave for some days and wanted to make sure they had enough and it is not a problem unless majorly overwatering or constantly doing so.

Will post some new photos later on today, which show the difference in growth between 3 days (from June 30th to July 3rd).

Note: Regarding post 3 above, all days are JUNE and not JULY as I mistakingly wrote - I ask any admin/moderator to fix this (and remove this note of this post once fixed).

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New updates.

Photos taken 72 hours (3 days) later this time. Showing "before" and "after" for easy comparison as usual. Also, this time a handful of leaves where cut off after last posted photos, so the plants in NEW photos dated July 3rd have been trimmed - the purpose of that was to let light reach desirable areas to form new tops / colas and branches. Also note containers have been rotated to get light reach other areas as well.

Photo 1: June 30th - Notice plant in lower left yellow container

Photo 2: July 3rd - Same plant as photo 1, three days after. Pretty easy to see the difference in growth, and you also notice the plant in the yellow container above it gotten bigger.

Photo 3: June 30th - As it was.

Photo 4: July 3rd - Same plant as photo 3, three days after. Again easy to see how it has grown and spread.

Photo 5: June 30th - Notice the large fan-leaf on left. This was cut off. Also notice small leaf-growth in middle at top.

Photo 6: July 3rd - Same plant as photo 5, notice more growth out of box, taller, and the small middle leaves having become really large growing well out of the box as well. The three big leaves seen here are two of the small ones seen 3 days earlier on photo 5 along with one of the big leaves which was not cut off on the 30th.

Photo 7: June 30th. The two small plants.

Photo 8: July 3. The same two small plants three days later, starting to grow out of box edges and healthier looking.

Remember a handful of leaves from the plants were cut off before taking these July 3rd photos, so in actuality they were even bigger than what these photos represent but excess leaves are constantly removed.

Photos 6, 7 & 8 mentioned above:

July 5th. Not adding any comparison photos as these are already available, just look at the previously posted photos. Attached are photos of the plants taken July 5th, two days later than previous photos.

Quite ingenious, all of this, but frankly, I don't see much more than some plants showing signs of over fertilization.

(Unless the person has a urinary tract infection there are no microbes in urine, but lots of sodium, potassium, nitrogen (urea), and other metabolytes. Do you mean the urine feeds the tea?)

Nitrogen makes cannabis grow like crazy and taste like dog poo and harsh to boot. Not sure how far into flower you will feed this, but it will take lots of flushing to get it all out at this rate.

Not bashing, just pointing out and giving my opinion. You have a lot of great ideas. Myself I would cut back on the tea to once a week at the most.

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July 5th. Not adding any comparison photos as these are already available, just look at the previously posted photos. Attached are photos of the plants taken July 5th, two days later than previous photos.

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Dude...Not bashing either but...... Those plants look VERY unhappy..... You are trying too hard.... Its only a weed.

They look perfectly fine to me.

Also I never stated anything above (such as urine) contains microbes, I said it will provide more easy access for microbes (that are already present). This is mainly due to the molasses mentioned. The urine is mainly a good nitrogene source.

All above is in VEGETATIVE state, I do plan to change things one I decide to put them into flowering.

Also regarding how healthy they look, here are some older photos, taken BEFORE i implemented the above mentioned systems. As seen they were cloes to dying and very small even though this was more than one month after sprouting. As soon as the steps above were performed they flourished with life and happyness again. Growing really fast and big and green, getting really back into shape and now I have to trim of large leaves daily as new sprouts out and keeps shadowing over parts I want light on and I have multiple healthy colas / tops. They are all somewhat stressed as techniques as supercropping, LST'ing, topping etc have and is being used.

In either case, here are the "before" photos:

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Dude...Its only a weed.

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not a weed but one of the first cultivated plants...most if not all of our drug verities would either not survive more than one season outdoors or would revert to ditchweed.

Just an update, photos per today July 14th, 2010.

Note that plants are constantly trimmed off fan leaves so the growth may not seem as profound as it would if i did not trim, but this is done to expose new nodes for light and get new colas. As seen the plants are gettin a bushy look due to this. It may seem like more than one plant per container due to this, but each container got only one plant each.

[quote=Rusty Trichome]Doesn't get much more ghetto than that, lol. Have you had success with this set-up before?

I don't think it's "ghetto", I think he is very creative and uses what resources he has to their maximum potential. Not everyone has a grow store down the block. My hat is off to him for his clever CO2 techniques. Obviously it does not do as well as a tank would, but it's (almost) free!



Necessary reading for those that wish to continue with the compost teas:
Compost Tea Claims

As for the link to the WSU page, I didn't see anything in there that specifically recommended against the use of compost tea. They were merely cautioning people not to believe it is a "snake oil" of magic plant healing elixer.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

As for the link to the WSU page, I didn't see anything in there that specifically recommended against the use of compost tea. They were merely cautioning people not to believe it is a "snake oil" of magic plant healing elixer.

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you didn't read enough. It specifically stated that given their position they could not recommend non-airiated teas for several reasons mainly because they dont see evidence that it works not to mention the health risks associated with salmonella and such.

I get that urine is natural and can be used as a fertilizer. Ever travel near a leech field???? omg the smell but look at how green all that shit can be. Still it's green shit. Who wants to smoke green shit?

Are you absolutly sure you know what your doing here? I'd be concerned you spalsh too much poo and urine on the plants and then create a bacteria and not realize it.

I suspect that the odds of catching an air borne disease after burning the shit out of something isnt too bad. Better then eating it I suppose but again, who wants to smoke poo smelling smoke? Who am I kidding...you can catch all sorts of airborne shit from burning it cant you???

I too am impressed with your creativity and ingenuity. This isn't exactly like rocket science. Only the suckers discover this hobby and then run out and spend 2k on grow rooms. I'll be the first to raise my hand on having done that.