granny grows legal!

You all are the ones who gave me the idea to take pictures of my grow, so it only seems right for me to share them. I hope you will come along with me as I track their progress. I am SO STOKED to be growing legally!!! Especially after the last time I grew the good herb: in October of 1998, I was charged with a fourth degree felony for having a bush in my garden. Now, with a very minimum of planning, I find myself with a card IDing me as a mmj patient, and a permit to grow. :D I've been slow getting this grow log started since every time I come to the site, there's so much reading to do... So now I'm starting out with month old pictures, but will catch up quick.

I only had two seeds to start with, but they were from some reeeeeaally good bud. They went into the dirt as soon as I got my permit. It was toward the end of April; let's say it was 4/20. About 4 weeks later, I planted another seed. I was undecided for a while whether to grow in pots or in the ground, so the first two plants went into large pots as soon as they germinated. Here are the three of them on May 28th. Giving them names seems like fun, so I've done that, too. Please don't bash me for my choices!!! LOL

First comes Oprah, second is Sophia, and tagging along third is Angelina.

As you probably noticed on the earlier pics, I pinched my plants when they were very small. Maybe one of you will explain for me what the difference is between topping and a fim? idk which it is that you call what I do. I just think that I get more smoke this way. One weeks growth:
Oprah, one view, and Sophia, two views, pics taken June 3.

One week later... seems like all is well, so far. These pics taken June 10. Keep in mind that Oprah and Sophia are in pots about 5 times larger than Angelina. Two pics of O first

Now Sophia - you may notice the "foreign intruder"... I think that must be butternut squash that was introduced into the pot when I added some home grown "worm poop". I will deal with the invader later. I also wonder if the worm poo is what caused the burn on S's fan leaves. Not a pretty sight, but I'm not too worried about it in the long run.

Last but not least is another pic of Angelina. She is in recovery now from having her little snip procedure. She looks happy to me!

My girls (I hope!) went into the ground on June 13. Here are quick pics taken the next day. First Oprah, then Sophia, third Angelina. Bright, bright sun....

The transplant from pots to ground was harder on the bigger plants. I think there were two reasons for this. First of all, my son had to dig the holes to set the plants into. Because they had been in such large pots, the holes they went into went deeper than the good topsoil in the garden. Also, we sorta crowded them into their places more than we should have. So: their roots are now in contact with soil that isn't as good as what they were used to. And: we f%^ked with them a bit, getting them into their places. Angelina, on the other hand, fit nicely in the good topsoil, and didn't have to suck it in to get into her jeans. There's a newcomer now, too! A friend gave me a clone. She had been growing under lights, but after only a couple days conditioning, she went into the garden and was christened Dolly. :thumbsup: Here are pics taken June 21.

Last time I grew cannabis, I created a monster by accident by tying down the branches to keep a low profile. Now that I know how that stimulates growth of the plant, I plan to continue a similar practice. I read in someone else's log on this board that they bypassed the string, etc, and just went with "bending" the plant. What the hay, I'll give it a try. Here are the pictures that I took yesterday of the four girls, lined up in the usual order: Oprah, Sophia, Angelina, and Dolly. Then you get one 'overview' of the garden. :D

well just wanted to drop by and say looks like your doign a good job and your plants look great you might wanna clear all the weeds and stuff out from around ya plants and are you using any nutes

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well just wanted to drop by and say looks like your doign a good job and your plants look great you might wanna clear all the weeds and stuff out from around ya plants and are you using any nutes

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Not if he's trying to keep a low profile :wtf:

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Originally Posted by WhatsMarijuana

Not if he's trying to keep a low profile :wtf:

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i was mainly talking about just right around the plants so that the weeds around her plants dont use half the nutes in the soil plus if she is legal no need to be on a low profile unless ya have to worry about thieves

Thanks, sticky... I appreciate the compliment on the plants!

The battle of the bermuda grass is a never-ending thing. I will try to keep up with it.

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Thanks, sticky... I appreciate the compliment on the plants!

The battle of the bermuda grass is a never-ending thing. I will try to keep up with it.

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no prob anytime keep up the good work oh and go check my grow log out if you get time :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

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no prob anytime keep up the good work oh and go check my grow log out if you get time :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

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i have definitely read your grow log! :thumbsup::thumbsup::rastasmoke:

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The transplant from pots to ground was harder on the bigger plants. I think there were two reasons for this. First of all, my son had to dig the holes to set the plants into. Because they had been in such large pots, the holes they went into went deeper than the good topsoil in the garden. Also, we sorta crowded them into their places more than we should have. So: their roots are now in contact with soil that isn't as good as what they were used to. And: we f%^ked with them a bit, getting them into their places. Angelina, on the other hand, fit nicely in the good topsoil, and didn't have to suck it in to get into her jeans. There's a newcomer now, too! A friend gave me a clone. She had been growing under lights, but after only a couple days conditioning, she went into the garden and was christened Dolly. :thumbsup: Here are pics taken June 21.

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Next time ya dig your holes, put your pots in to see if the size of hole you dug will fit your plants perfect. Also, it could be the pic, but they look close to each other. You might want to tie a plant one way and the next the other and so on. They will get used to the soil you put them into and next time, just let the soil dry out before doing any re potting as they will slide right out of the pot.

When ya top a plant you basically cut the top off right above the node or leave set. A Fim is cutting the tips of the very new growth, my favorite. This will give you from 4 to who knows tops. I got 7 with my Fim last year.

Glad to see ya here and that you put in the reading as it makes everything a bit easier. Plus you know what to expect as far as different methods you might want to try. I have a log here, so feel free to stop by and il be back here. Any help, just ask im here a couple times a day:)

Keep er green:weedpoke:

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Very nice plants, Desert :)

I can't wait to see em blooming! :thumbsup:

I got tons of love you grandparents who smoke. My grandafther grows some of the best weed Ive ever smoked. You can take some of the Best Indoor weed you can find and his Outdoor crop could compete with the best.

Im righht here following along if you need anything.:rasta:

Thanks for stopping by, LSY, Muddy, Dru. Everyone's comments are most welcome!

I guess the FIM vs TOP question is one that I will have to play around with some in the future. From looking at my pics, would you say that I've just been topping my plants at a very young age, or was it a fim? Whatever its called, there will definitely be more colas as a result.

It's all good.... :hippy:

personally i dont top. I just let my branches get to the desired height, then i bend them over and tie them down.

It looks like your plants were just topped. Fimming(if done correctly) sprouts 3 or more tops.

Bending is a really low stress way to keep your plants short. Its also a great way to create more tops without actually cutting anything off your plant. Topping and Fimming stresses the plant tremendously and it can take weeks for growth to pick back up again.

...firstly, your plants look nice and healthy, so kudos, deserthealer!

and, in the FIM/top/LST/SCRoG debate, I kinda lean towards LST, mesef. [imho] It seems to stress the plants the least (over FIM/topping), and seems a bit more portable than SCRoG.

If your plants are outdoors-y ones, tho, you could prolly SCRoG 'em quite easily with some chicken wire, or do LST with stakes and string. If you have a particularly frisky top that just needs to leap, try FIMming that one, and see if you don't get four or six tops outta it.

Not sure if you have a problem with the Critters of Eating, but if there is a chance of that, you might wanna fence or cage 'em in a bit for their own safety (and your good harvest!).

Kudos on being legal, now, too! {From one MMJ gardener to another} Keep up the good work!

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personally i dont top. I just let my branches get to the desired height, then i bend them over and tie them down.

It looks like your plants were just topped. Fimming(if done correctly) sprouts 3 or more tops.

Bending is a really low stress way to keep your plants short. Its also a great way to create more tops without actually cutting anything off your plant. Topping and Fimming stresses the plant tremendously and it can take weeks for growth to pick back up again.

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No not weeks as the fim will slow just a few days as the rest of the plant grows and iv fimed enough to know this. Topping maybe longer as you are taking the top off and the side branching needs to start, but in the end you will have multiple tops which is more yield and keeps them not as tall.

Bending works too, but if your starting a plant less then a foot you have the time for any stress your plant would go through. I just transplanted mine in its hole sideways so in stead of putting it up right then tying it, i just put the plant in sideways which basically is the same. I am hoping for lots of tops with this method.

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if you train correctly, there is no need to FIM or top.


These plants are at week 3 veg, and I have been training the all of the branches. These plants would easily be three feet tall if i just let them grow, but they are about 12 inches because bend them over(which tricks that plant and stimulates branch growth.


Ive never even topped a or FIM'd a single growing tip.

oops i got a little bit of skin showing in some of the pictures. I apologize for not keeping it PG rated.

hey, thanks guys for kudos and encouragement and feedback! LSY and Dru, your plants look great, too. Mr Carpenter dude, you are so lucky to be way up there at the other end of this continent... you could set up my indoor ... ah, nevermind. It's late and i'm silly.

We had a fabulous rain last night. It was so good, the electricity even went out for a little while. So nice to get real rain on the garden. Went out this evening to check on the girls, and to give them a dose of their nutes: i make a bucket of worm shit / horse shit tea and give each plant a cuppa. :thumbsup:

I guess I'm going to have to tie them, after all. The places where I pinched the stalks are working hard at healing themselves. I tried to show one of the bends in a photo for you... you can barely tell that I did a little s&m ... :wtf:

@LSY: none of my cannabis plants are within 3 feet of each other. I guess what looked like two plants to you was actually one. they do get really bushy when they're topped in their infancy.

Photos, if you're interested... in their usual order: Oprah, Sophia, Angelina, and baaaa, oh i mean Dolly. plus one extra pic of one of Sophia's knobby knees. (Size reference - that blue pail holds one gallon.)

Looking good keep it up. :thumbsup::thumbsup: :smokin: I topped one of mine and it really did not slow the growth down hardly at all. And i just fimmed the 2 tops on it today, i hope all goes well i really just did it to see what happens and to get a lil exp from it so i know what to expect in the future and all that. :hippy::hippy::jointsmile:

ohh i think granny's gunna be making a batch of baked goods at the end of summer.............. and we all know how good(or should i say "Special" granny's cookies are:thumbsup:



looking good, looking good. I love how you have integrated your marijuana garden and vegatable garden. When you pick corn, your gunna come back to the dinner table reeking of reefer.

I went out and worked on tying down the branches on my little trees... got two of them done, and then the ants chased me away when I went over by Dolly and Angelina. I'll have to have another go at them tomorrow. And try to figure out what to do about the blasted ants!!! I was wearing sandals, and the tiny buggars set my toes on fire!

Didn't have my camera in hand... I'm trying not to bore you to tears... but my gawd! Angelina is suddenly just as big as her two older sisters. She LIKED that little drink of shit tea she got a couple days ago! I'm lovin' it :D :D :D

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I went out and worked on tying down the branches on my little trees... got two of them done, and then the ants chased me away when I went over by Dolly and Angelina. I'll have to have another go at them tomorrow. And try to figure out what to do about the blasted ants!!! I was wearing sandals, and the tiny buggars set my toes on fire!

Didn't have my camera in hand... I'm trying not to bore you to tears... but my gawd! Angelina is suddenly just as big as her two older sisters. She LIKED that little drink of shit tea she got a couple days ago! I'm lovin' it :D :D :D

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yeah those fire ants are something else yeah they do love there nutes haha

Heya... just thot you might want a good recipe for getting rid of those little pests.

Take ½ icing sugar and mix with ½ Borax (yup, good ole 20-mule-team Borax). Mix well, and then put in little containers that will keep it from getting wet, but that the ants can still get in. Place containers near nest.

The drones will happily take bits of Borax/icing sugar back to the queen, who will eat them. And then die. And then the colony will follow suit, soon, too.

Most commercial ant-solutions are basically this recipe.

Hope this helps!

@(c)C: thank you, thank you, thank you!!! oh, and did I say 'thank you!'?

I knew there was a simple remedy out there somewhere, but I couldn't remember what it was. I did not get brave enough to go out there again this evening. My toes still tingle a little from yesterday. Tomorrow will get some borax and powdered sugar. Happy toes, happy plants ... :thumbsup:

...you're soooo welcome!

You seem like a nice person, and not one who deserves to be gnawed upon by ravening insectoids! Who, for all you know, wanted your lovely medicine to farm bloody aphids on!

It has been a while, so I can't remember if you have to wet the mix initially a bit to 'cake' it, or just the mix itself works. I think it works just fine dry, but I /know/ it's something that works. The Borax is toxic to the head beastie, and the icing sugar is the enticement.

Best of all, this particular cure is Buddhist Certified. You're not actually killing them! It's not as if the ants have to go eat that... they could eat other stuph...

Not that I'm a Buddhist. :)

Stopped by the Dollar Store this afternoon and picked up a bottle of boric acid. The store didn't have powdered sugar, and i didn't want to go to another store, so i substituted a package of sugar cookie mix... it's almost pure sugar, anyway, and right after sugar on the ingredients list is high fructose corn. Back at home, mixed up a bit of the ant medicine and took it out back. 'Planted' three doses, and waited around long enough to see that the pesky little buggars are indeed carrying the treasure home. Yippee!!! :rastasmoke:

I took the camera out with me, too, to get a look at how the plants were responding to being tied down. They are more horizontal than vertical at the moment, at least Oprah and Sophia are. I got a pic of each of them, and one of Angelina, who still has not been tied down yet. Then the batteries in the camera died. I had fooled around taking a few pics of the corn and sunflower, and battery died before I finished. So you'll see Dolly again next time! Here's today's pics...

they are looking great :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile: hope you get rid of ya pests

Approximately equal parts boric acid and sugar cookie dough mix appears to have fixed the ant problem. I put a couple tablespoons of the mixture into three amber glass bottles (the kind nutritional supplements come in) and laid the bottles on their sides in the dirt in the problem areas. Either that batch of ants died off, or they moved. My feet are grateful!

There have been a couple more good rains. Crazy, what a difference it makes when irrigation comes in the form of rain. The plants grow so much better. I've read that the presence of hydrogen peroxide in rainwater is what makes the difference. Thoughts, anyone?

Plants are looking right on the verge of showing sexual preference. :cool: Angelina is being a show-off. She doesn't get quite as much direct sun as the others, which I thought would slow her growth. It appears to have the opposite effect. But she's also the one who didn't experience any transplant shock. ... So here's a photo of one of her fan leaves... along with the usual lineup: Oprah, Sophia (who really looks like two plants now, then Angelina and finally Dolly.

...those are some thrivin' lil' girls you got there!

How's the ant problem coming along? Have they picked up and moved off yet? I know that there is room in G_d's ecosystem for everyone, but some bugz are NOT welcome on my plants, and even less welcome on my person :)

You should have a good harvest :)

good stuff keep the hobby and medicine up

YOU GO GRANDMA!!!!!!!

Ill follow along to if yea dont mind. I started about a month ago also. Got my card and went to town. Too much fun watching all these grows and comparing notes. I love this place:thumbsup:

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...How's the ant problem coming along? Have they picked up and moved off yet?

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umm... cC, do you only look at the pictures (ya silly!) In the post just before yours, I said:

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...Either that batch of ants died off, or they moved. My feet are grateful!...

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Ill follow along to if yea dont mind.

I love this place:thumbsup:

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Sure thing, Stomper. Welcome aboard! It took me ages to start my grow log, too. Every time I'd get online here, I'd get caught up with reading everyone else's posts. There is so MUCH on this site! Much good information... Just keep on reading. Eventually you'll get caught up.

...I musta bin stoned that day ;)

I'm soooo glad that the fix worked for ya! I don't personally begrudge any of Gh+d's creatures, but I take exception when they try to harm me... and if they can't be reasoned with....

You have some lovely plants there, deserthealer... but I'm a little intrigued as to the title of the thread... If you are actually a 'granny', you're my kinda 'granny', and I'd love ta buy ya a beer or coffee sometime, locale permitting :)

Wishing you a bumper crop!

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Originally Posted by CovertCarpenter

...I musta bin stoned that day ;)

... If you are actually a 'granny', you're my kinda 'granny', and I'd love ta buy ya a beer or coffee sometime, locale permitting :)

Wishing you a bumper crop!

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Many thanks, m'dear! I am indeed a granny. My "kids" are in their twenties and thirties, and a coupla them have kiddos ranging from 5 to 14. (Blows me away, it does!) I think that prolly makes me an old hippie :) :hippy:

will take you up on that beer or coffee one day! :thumbsup:

Snapped a couple pics yesterday, but the server was too bogged down to get them posted last night. Mebby now I can?

Usually I wait til the sun has dropped down to take pictures, as it's just so durn bright... but had to make an exception ...

Here's Dolly and a friend, and then a couple shots of Angelina. The closeup of Angelina shows the first pistils I've found on her :dance:

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