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I have to chuckle at the thought if George Bush was president during the oil spill........the hypocricy on display is amazing.
The Presidents inexpierience and modest political background is on full display for all the world to see. Thats why all our enemies are so emboldened at this time....they KNOW he is weak and in serious electoral trouble.
last week all the white house staffers had a giant water gun fight and got drunk.....with TWO gulf wars and a massive oil spill raging.
Are Obama staffers overexposed? - Marin Cogan and John F. Harris - POLITICO.com
Really....I can see the headlines already if Bush were president and this was his amateurish staff playing while the oh so sensitive enviroment died like it is.
Lets take a look at your hero GWB,s presidential record. 9/11, two wars, one over the same stuff spewing in the gulf, Katrina, recession, bank meltdown and I can go on. And you act like this mess is Obama's fault. If GWB was still president, my guess is that Dick Chaney would be "working" with BP to figure out a way to get a BP bailout.
This mess is BP's fault. And Republicans want the American taxpayer to pay for it. While BP pays a divedend to their shareholders. Right now Republicans are holding up a bill to raise the oil damage cap from 75 million to 10 billion. And since the Tea Party is the Republican Party I guess this spill should not upset you at all. After all, Big Oil owns you, lock, stock, and barrel.
A way back you were braging on how Harry Reid was toast. Wan'a put some money on that? :D
Oh, and Fox and Politico are not sources.
the funny thing is instead of addressing what is going on u jump on him for his gwb thing.as if obama is doing a great job,then the fox news and so on lmao so let me guess the real news comes from who?cnn,cbs,cnbc,??let me know so i can gauge how brainwashed you are too...Quote:
Originally Posted by oldhaole
oh and btw if we are going to blame it on the last in office will we ever get anywhere?no the fact is obama stated many times "i know how to fix america"i can't tell you any of it until you elect me but i know how to fix america.1 thing you don't do during a major crisis is go on vacation.
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Originally Posted by throatstick
I jump Him? The OP made a comment. It was he, not I that first brought up America's Worst President. Please read the comment before replying. And do you want to point out anything I said about Obama doing such a "great job" anywhere in my post? And you think I'm brainwashed? Hell, you are seeing things.
That is a joke. This last year has been one crisis after another. The last guy in charge took more vacation days of any president before him. He took his while New Orleans drowned. 1600 dead. When would YOU think its OK to go on vacation?
The sad thing is while you hope for Obama's failure, you care nothing of the cost to our country. You don't get that Obama's failure would be America's failure. That is a cost you seem happily willing for others to bear, Like a giant oil spill, just to have a way to attack him. To blame him. And, to me, that is just small and petty.
If you care, I think we will be looking at a lost decade. I think we have many years of economic turmoil ahead. That should make you very happy.
Good Luck.
lmao u love to assume.our country was going down way b4 obama or bush,everything you see happen is done on purpose.obama is just a puppet like all the ones b4 him.when you say i hope for his failure well you are right about that.because if he goes along as planned we are all fucked.open your brain and think a min,well first do you know what is really going on with this spill?here watch thisQuote:
Originally Posted by oldhaole
YouTube - US oil spill explained this was done in may so the 5000 per day is way off.
notice how they are over fucking with the pipe when there is a shut off valve on the well head?ok lets say there was no shut off valve"which there is" you mean to tell me they drill raw wells all the time and cap them no problem but now they don't know shit about it???come on,did you know they are catching around 10k barrels a day worth of oil?plenty enough to turn a buck then instead of putting all of this on bp they"our own gov" have raised the tax 3 times with some other bs tax on top of that.guess who is fitting the bill? americans are.everything obama is doing reeks of gov agenda.all those fishermen wanting to go out and clean up this shit nope can't do it.
did you know mr great obama resigned the emergency act "something bush put in place b4 he left office" that allows him to over ride the house and senate?he could say right now do this and this and so on he could say to the people that have great ideas like this. YouTube - CWRoberts Presentation 2.wmv
go and get to it,instead he sits on his hands. also i don't recall bush going on vacation but if he did the obama types were the ones jumping all in bush's ass about everything he did.now obama is in office and lets not forget your people "dems/libs" have control of the house and senate.yet the same old shit is still going on and even more so.i think obama is bush's offspring.everything he looked down at bush for doing he has taken and did more with it than bush did.
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Originally Posted by throatstick
I rest my case. :thumbsup:
My old friend Bush huh.......yea I hated Bush/Cheney......and stupidly voted for the Commander Incompetant......whose administration passed this oil well with flying colors 1 year ago.
Bush is gone......how long will Obama and old hippies stuck in 1962 try and use him as a crutch for his ENORMOUS shortcomings and failed policies?
sure Bush and Cheney get some blame, right behind our CURRENT president who is #2 behind the BP CEO.
BamBam's administration looks WEAK.......and If it was a hurricane that had hit......rest fucking assured the reaction time woulda been the EXACT SAME from the worthless federal govt as with Katrina.
Way to go Obama!! Looks like ya hit your new low on Gallup this week, the once beloved pollster of the president. Im sure its some racist teaparty plot though lmao.
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Facts are facts and Obama is becoming hated.
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Originally Posted by Islandborn
Island.... I agree with most of your post. And I won't take issue with the Old Hippy comment. Because I am. :D
And look.... A real source.... Time qualifies in my book. Can't fight that either.
Only thing left to me...... Still think Harry Reid will lose his seat?
would it matter either way if old harry lost his seat or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by oldhaole
What makes a human being seem more delusional than tuning into FOX "news"? Bashing the current president and defending W. in the same sentence.
"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job"
GWB aka Woody from Toy Story says to the director of FEMA. Ole "Brownie" did such a great job, he had to resign two weeks later because... oh... he did an atrocious job.
At least our current president isn't sugar coating the current situation. A situation where you can't just send the national guard into the depths of the ocean, plug the hole, then clean up the oil from the water.
But, if you don't understand, it's okay... this world has always been filled with idiots and will continue that way of course. You simpletons can go to bat for the uber-wealthy who give two shits about you other than you're there to vote for policies that help them and keep you at a disadvantage.
The term hippie hadn't even come about in 1962. That was still the Beat Generation, the Beatniks. Ginburg, et al. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
If you are going to act like you know what your talking about, please prove it with real facts, not your revisionist history. :smokin:
The term hippie hadn't even come about in 1962. That was still the Beat Generation, the Beatniks. Ginburg, et al. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
If you are going to act like you know what your talking about, please prove it with real facts, not your revisionist history. :smokin:
The term hippie hadn't even come about in 1962. That was still the Beat Generation, the Beatniks. Ginburg, et al. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
If you are going to act like you know what your talking about, please prove it with real facts, not your revisionist history. :smokin:
The term hippie hadn't even come about in 1962. That was still the Beat Generation, the Beatniks. Ginburg, et al. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
If you are going to act like you know what your talking about, please prove it with real facts, not your revisionist history. :smokin:
wow what a jerk gotta repeat the same post 10 times damn....Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
lmao what a big puffy head you must have on your shoulders lmao.let me know when ya get off your knees k? just because someone points out the current bs don't mean they approved of any others b4 it.guess when someone calls out the person that you have that sweaty love for. all you can do is see red and then go off on them. as if talking about the other pos that was in office b4 him would show them a thing or 2 huh lmao how weak.....Quote:
Originally Posted by DocJTre2
uh-oh......someone didnt eat their granola this morning. BUSH BUSH BUSH........thats all the libs got nowadays. I bet they run their midterm elections against George Bush....I bet some still think he's actually president in some hole planning on killing brown people with hurricanes.
Everything going on falls squarely on Obama's shoulders. The peeps are getting pretty tired of hearing the President whine like a broad everyday on tv and apologize and grovel anytime he leaves america. Instead of looking for "someones ass to kick" maybe the President and his cronies need to grow a pair. They are spiraling outta control and look unable to handle everything going on. Cause they have NO executive expierience and Obama cant vote "Present" anymore like he did his entire time in the senate.
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Originally Posted by Islandborn
By your own admission GWB is an Idiot. He had eight years as an idiot. He had 8 years to shovel his shit. You blindly followed him until Katrina, then you realized he was an idiot.
How much dammage can a pResident do in 8 years? Lots. If he had 8 years to fly us into the dirt how much time are you willing to give Obama to get us out? From your posts I'd say ...not much. The nation may not care for Obama, but they have seen how Repubs govern, and he (by far) is the lesser of two evils.
Now I can understand your bitterness. After all You gave Bush to us. Created him. Made him Governor of the great state of Tex ass. Worshiped him. Pushed him on to the rest of the nation. And you supported him for 5 years until you had your "oh Shit" moment.
You gave Bush 5 years, and in 5 months you were questioning if Obama was even born here. Sorry Dude, Bush screwed up your brand name. Obama is simply the guy following the parade cleaning all the shit (and now oil) that your guy left behind. Don't be a hater.
And the beautiful Gulf Coast is screwed!
Obama will do his best. He is not in bed with BIG OIL like the Bush boys are.
Really? Obama's not in bed with BP huh? Have you read the papers lately? Obama is FOR SURE in bed with BP......BP paid rent free Rahm Emanuels PLUSH Washington Penthouse and they gave how much to his campaign? Read a book sometime.
Im sure Obama's lapse in judgement on his Katrina in the gulf has NOTHING to do with his cap and tax economy killer.
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Obama looks like a chicken with its head chopped off now.....Iran....Gulf.....N. Korea.....economy....unemployment......what do I do What do I do....
Bush is gone......not coming back......shut up already..stop using that as the Liberal mantra and KING EXCUSE for poor Obama. Awwwwwwww, its Bushies fault. These folks will still be mumbling that in 30 years in their govt sponsored retirement home.:thumbsup:
says the individual who brought up his name in the first post of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
"SHUT UP" -Bill O'really? is that you?
politics are politics, spurious as all hell... but, W. was such a detriment to America that it's hard to ignore that the effects of his administration are and will long from now still be in the process of being cleaned up.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by DocJTre2
so down to the real ?? which is what would obama have to do to jar that brain loose and make you say damn he really is'nt who and what he claims to be?i bet he could send an order to kill your family and you will still blame that on bush too huh.lmao weak.Quote:
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Originally Posted by throatstick
Don't bother dude.......we will get WAY,WAY, MORE VOTES at the booth on Nov. 2nd......thats why we see such venom coming from the loony left currently......desperation.
Here's America's sophisticated President today likening an Oil spill to the events of September 11th when 19 muslim terrorists crashed planes into the World Trade Center killing 2,974 humans.
Obama likens Gulf environmental disaster to 9/11
We live in Bizarro world. I thought Biden was the gaffe dufus?:(
First honest statement you've made!!! :DQuote:
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typical i would'nt expect anything less from the likes of people like you...twisting words...Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
Like that bother's me. Probably one of his trolls. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by throatstick
oil spills are not something that can be avoided and no matter how many precautions are taken unexpected things happen. America uses 20 million barrels a day of oil. what is wrong with obama talking to ppl over the phone instead of meeting with them? his workday is long enough. anyone notice how much older he looks in the short time he has been president? you may not agree with his vision or you may not even be able to tell wtf his vision is. he is attending to YOUR needs as best he can at least give him respect for that.
the media needs controversy for ratings$$. politicians need votes. billions of ppl drink kool-aid. if you cant connect those dots just keep thinking tv is giving you real information.
lmao your lame dude real lame....sad really.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
We live in Bizarro world,that is what he wrote.not "I"....AND IM THE TROLL lmao weak ass....Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
I have trolls now? What does that even mean? Thanks I guess. So lets run down the socialists complaints against me so far...im racist....im from Texas so must be uneducated, im a supremist, and un-sensitive.......oh....and that I copy and paste actual news stories to back my points up......that really drives em nuts....cause all the news about them is no bueno:) Im sure if I posted some stories on the infamous racist Che, Id be the toast of the people so open minded their brains fell out;)
Bizarro World....president cozies up to all the leftist socialists in Latin America who oppress their people....pushing a man-made global warming cap & trade joke when the scie3nce behind it is questionable to say the least......bowing to all the tyrants and religous zeolots in the middle east....continuing to spend in the face 20 trillion deficits.....yea.....Bizarro World Gyps.......I'll talk slower next time.
I've often wondered if the Category Politic and current Events weren't actually meant for political actions and current events relevant to cannabis prohibition.
Its morphed into a political food fight, and yes, I'll admit some guilt.
As for you Island, you keep the food fight active, and I have yet to see you post real activism on your part in the state of Texas for medical marijuana or legalization. Are you here for that purpose or just to stir the political shit pot and play rhetorical games? Maybe if you showed some balls and action concerning cannabis and really put your ass on the line then maybe people would pay more attention to you.
I'd love to see how you'd do in Obama's shoes, but seeing how you are here, we really be fucked if you held the reins. :twocents:
i don't see anywhere on the boards that say you have to come in a thread and read what is written?you could do the same as everyone else when they see something that makes no matter to them.but the fact that you do come in and not only read but stir the shit pot yourself means 1 of 2 things.either you want to stir shit up yourself?or you want to debate the issue at hand.see the thing tho with people like you is if someone does'nt agree 110% with your way of thinking your feelings get hurt even if it has nothing against you per sa.but since you love obama you take any attack or dislike of him as an attack against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
it ok 99% of humans do the same thing,most don't know how to step back and look at both sides i see this alot from libs not that the repubs are any better.but libs have this deep hate against anything or any one that don't bend over and kiss their asses.which is funny cause they are the ones that preach peace all the time lmao.
what you have to understand about the prez any prez that is.the prez is a figurehead nothing more.anyone that thinks he makes the final call is being lead down the path of blindness.the main fault i see with any prez is that they are the ones that really knows what is going on behind the curtains.yet they go along with it,that is their fault they know and what may have been good men to start out turns very corrupt.it comes down to do i out myself from the inner circle for the betterment of the people or do i play ball and continue the lie.only 1 i have ever seen go against them to a degree was jfk....see where that got him?
back to obama people that believe in the voting proccess and so on believe the people elected him. also believe all the promises he told to "make office"they saw him say things against bush about katrina, and how slow bush was to act.so now they see him doing the same very thing he like many others said about bush.infact everything he has done is so bush like it's like he has been lead by the nose by bush.he has not done 1 thing diffrent than the ones b4 him.his whole speech to make office was out with the same old people and in with new.im going to do something very diffrent yet he is doing the same shit.
to people this looks like a fraud and it's always going to be the other party that sees this.thats because america has been brainwashed into believing that you are not a patriot if you don't pick a side.when infact it's the people that have allowed the shit to happen by being tricked into thinking 1 side is better then the other.it's very simple really the power that be know people like diffrent flavors some like coke some like mountain dew.....
I'd love to see how you'd do in Obama's shoes, but seeing how you are here, we really be fucked if you held the reins.
if i was prez first thing i would do is cut off our boarders to all.then i would bring all jobs back to the us.then i would jack min wage to atleast 10$hr.
the problem is america is not for americans anymore there is no reason in the world that anyone should be homeless.you can say what you want about homeless people but most did'nt want to be they just gave up because of all the bullshit that the gov does to people and some they hit really hard.i would set it up to where people did'nt have to work 50,60 years of their lives just to maybe own a home.
being that their is only 305 million people in the us and about half or so are children.i would have giving a grant to all adults 25 and older of a million dollars but they would have to buy atleast a car and a home with it. and put atleast 25% of the million in a 10 year ira account or the same.and atleast 25% of the rest of the money would have to go towards the schooling of a job skill of their choice.from 17 to 25 those people would get free grants for room and board,food,and schooling. they would have to work atleast 25+ hrs a week.if they pass then they get a grant for a house and car.everyone works on a 20 year cycle"they can work longer if they want with added benefits like no taxes or something.everyone pays a flat tax of 20%.
everyone pays 50$ per month kids 75$ for adults over 25 to the hospitals not ins not the gov not ins, the hospitals.this covers healthcare for them.it also cuts out the gov and the ins bs= no middle man.
i would also stop regulating things to only suit the people with big money.
i know i know you think giving everyone some money is no good.but that would jump start the economy,stop people from suffering,help america so on.and it would only cost around 150 mil or so not tens of trillions of dollars that no one knows where it went or has seen anything for.hummm
i'd also wipe out the house and senate i would hold a public vote for anything that came up....
i'd also limit the feds no more going after people for no reason.i would punish the person not the drug or anything else. i would hold people accountable for their own actions.no more well the drugs made me do it bs...
^You make good points.
What are your thoughts on the deregulation of the oil industry? I'm not one to know it all... which party was it?
Fuck obama by the way. I don't care about him. I don't care about politics. I do, from time to time, become outraged by what is wrong with this world. Right wing, conservative, republican ideals are leading candidates in what is most wrong with this world.
yes they are the main things that are wrong with this world.like i said it's not so much fuck obama but he is part of the cause just like the rest of them.they are all 1 in the same.everyone of them lie through their teeth.they are the root cause of disinfo.they are the cause that so many people think mj is an evil drug.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocJTre2
the oil thing?they are the main reason we are dependant on oil like we are.the thing is people need to wake up to the fact that the power that be think of us the common folks as slaves.they don't want us to do good for ourselfs.they infact want us living pay ck to pay ck.that is how they control us,they take every right away that we have.notice anytime something comes up that can really help people they swoop in and regulate the fuck out of it to where only the top dogs that have always been in power have all the control over it?
look what just happened in colorado bill 1284.the mmj was doing great things for people caregivers could make a living and supply great herb to people in need for a good price.what does the state do they swoop in and make it to where only the top dogs with money can still go on while driving the small guy back underground.then on top of that all the lil strip malls that came back to life will now go back to nothing.people will lose alot here.
we as americans have let a select few control our every move.
back to the oil did you know the tax per barrel has trippled? then on top of that some other bs tax.so what the gov has done is passed the buck to us.we have to pay for bp's fuck up wtf?bp should be made to sell all stocks and whatever else pay for the full clean up and then on top of that pay america a enviro tax/penalty. besides that wtf are they doing in our waters anyways? i could just see america being able to do this in england...
the fact is we could come up with a new fuel system, that could cost nothing to make. the gov would come in make up some bs as to why they need to tax it. then fuck us out of it.heck they are already trying to tax carbon.i just read last nite this company or research group has found a way to take carbon and reverse it back into useable energy.the gov has patents on everything that we could use right now that would get us off oil.the same gov that preaches go green are the same ones holding it back.they are the problem....
oh btw i believe this was done on purpose,call me crazy but these fuckers drill holes everyday and cap them.yet now all the sudden they can't do shit?yea ok,then on top of that they have been spraying chems into the water that is killing shit. oh btw they are'nt even trying to cap anything they are over at the pipe where it's leaking in 3 places.they should be over at the well head where btw there is a shut off valve hummm.they are doing this to yet again rape america i know im crazy,but it's odd that they have turned down every idea even really good ones.they have blocked people from going out and doing anything to help.what now all the sudden bp controls the fucking gulf.....i grew up in pcb fla and this makes me sick.i am telling you this is being done on purpose so many fucking red flags all over the place on this one.