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06-10-2010, 02:46 AM
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OK, as a patient I have two questions for all you pros.

One, what is the best way to store a zip and a half of mixed grams (for like 6 months)? Airtight containers under the bed, in the fridge, or in the freezer?

I've found so many different options on the net, what have you found that works best in the CO climate?

Two, my dispensary (where I got my mmj doc's ref and signed away my caregiver status to some unknown grower affiliated with the shop) is going down.

I submitted my paperwork in late March. I prob won't see my card for another 6 months.

Should I sit tight or try remove this caregiver through the CDPHE?

This caregiver prob has tons of patients at the moment and now will have to downsize to five patients (right?).

I'm confused.

Any advice would help, I have young children at home and just want to be legit as a patient.:jointsmile:
06-10-2010, 03:22 AM
donnadanko

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I store mine glass jars and that seems to work fine. You can change your caregiver anytime you want. Thats why going around to all the dispensaries and getting deals is so cool. You don't have to notify anyone. I don't think that has changed but I'm sure you'll get many different answers on both questions.:)
06-10-2010, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by donnadanko

I don't think that has changed but I'm sure you'll get many different answers on both questions.:)

Thanks for the response:thumbsup:

Many, many different opinions is what I want.:jointsmile: Anyone?
06-10-2010, 05:02 AM
pfunk211

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Originally Posted by donnadanko

I store mine glass jars and that seems to work fine. You can change your caregiver anytime you want. Thats why going around to all the dispensaries and getting deals is so cool. You don't have to notify anyone. I don't think that has changed but I'm sure you'll get many different answers on both questions.:)

maybe you're unaware, but that's a real dick thing to do.......

please notify your caregiver in writing to let them know you are moving on to greener pastures, if you should so choose.
06-10-2010, 05:33 AM
donnadanko

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Originally Posted by pfunk211

maybe you're unaware, but that's a real dick thing to do.......

please notify your caregiver in writing to let them know you are moving on to greener pastures, if you should so choose.

Noted... but I think the dispensary did wrong by her too. And to tell you truth I really don't care if dispensaries are not notified.
06-10-2010, 03:15 PM
COzigzag

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As a caregiver myself, I would appreciate it if a patient notified me they changed caregivers. It will keep me out of jail! Legal plant count is tied to patient count.

On the other hand, the dispensary you went through is closing. Is this dispensary listed on your paperwork/license as your caregiver? If so, and you know for fact they are going out of business, change your caregiver if you want.

I would look at your paperwork/license and see who the dispensary listed as your caregiver. Your paperwork will have your caregiver's address info. Just write them and tell them you are changing caregivers. It's your right. You're are not "stuck" with whomever the dispensary assigned you to.

Good luck!
06-10-2010, 03:21 PM
donnadanko

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Originally Posted by COzigzag

As a caregiver myself, I would appreciate it if a patient notified me they changed caregivers. It will keep me out of jail! Legal plant count is tied to patient count.

On the other hand, the dispensary you went through is closing. Is this dispensary listed on your paperwork/license as your caregiver? If so, and you know for fact they are going out of business, change your caregiver if you want.

I would look at your paperwork/license and see who the dispensary listed as your caregiver. Your paperwork will have your caregiver's address info. Just write them and tell them you are changing caregivers. It's your right. You're are not "stuck" with whomever the dispensary assigned you to.

Good luck!

In this case we were talking about dispensaries not the more personal caregiver/patient deal. Even as far as dispensaries go until July it doesn't effect them if people change.

But your right they should notify the caregivers.
06-10-2010, 05:01 PM
SmilesOutLoud

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well you are required to notify your caregiver 30 days in advance of changing them, it's stated on the CDPHE website.
I'd notify your caregiver and submit a change form to the CDPHE, your card will most likely have that caregivers name on it till you renew, but you will be listed on the reg as yourself and no caregiver if you submit a change form.
06-10-2010, 05:06 PM
TheReleafCenter

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To your first question: the enemies of properly stored MMJ are light and air. Store in a dark place and use whatever method you see fit (vacuum sealing, airtight jars) to keep air out.
06-10-2010, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by COzigzag

I would look at your paperwork/license and see who the dispensary listed as your caregiver. Your paperwork will have your caregiver's address info. Just write them and tell them you are changing caregivers. It's your right. You're are not "stuck" with whomever the dispensary assigned you to.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by SmilesOutLoud

well you are required to notify your caregiver 30 days in advance of changing them, it's stated on the CDPHE website.
I'd notify your caregiver and submit a change form to the CDPHE, your card will most likely have that caregivers name on it till you renew, but you will be listed on the reg as yourself and no caregiver if you submit a change form.

Thanks for both of your replies!

Yea, the caregiver is not the dispensary or its owner. I'm assuming he's just a regular grower that teamed up with the disp.

I found this on the CPHDE website:

"When there has been a change in the name, address, physician, or primary caregiver of a patient who has qualified for a registry identification card, that patient must notify the registry of any such change within ten days."

and

"It is up to the patient to notify a person that the patient has removed them as a care-giver. The Registry does not send any notice to the care-giver."

So it seems clear cut. (Smiles, I couldn't find the 30 day advance rule)

I just send a letter to my caregiver's listed address and then within 10 days fill out the 'Change of Address or Caregiver Form' and check 'none' for caregiver and have it notarized :cursing: and sent it in to the CPHDE?

I also seem to remember that I signed a paper at the disp stating that I would notify them also if I changed caregivers. Since they are closing does this really matter?

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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

To your first question: the enemies of properly stored MMJ are light and air. Store in a dark place and use whatever method you see fit (vacuum sealing, airtight jars) to keep air out.

This is gonna sound like a stupid question, but will the air inside my airtight containers degrade the mmj? I was not planning on using any kind of vacuum jars.
06-10-2010, 08:56 PM
TheReleafCenter

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Originally Posted by telephone

This is gonna sound like a stupid question, but will the air inside my airtight containers degrade the mmj? I was not planning on using any kind of vacuum jars.

No way, that's a great question, and one that I'm not sure I have a great answer for. Obviously it's not ideal, but it shouldn't dramatically effect the quality. Another big thing is to make sure the buds are properly cured to avoid gray mold. Hygrometers are relatively cheap and can provide a lot of peace of mind.
06-10-2010, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

No way, that's a great question, and one that I'm not sure I have a great answer for. Obviously it's not ideal, but it shouldn't dramatically effect the quality. Another big thing is to make sure the buds are properly cured to avoid gray mold. Hygrometers are relatively cheap and can provide a lot of peace of mind.

Lol. I hope they are prop cured, some of them came from your shop!

So you vote no on any refrigeration or freezing then?
06-10-2010, 09:14 PM
TheReleafCenter

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Don't freeze! Frozen trichomes break off and can be lost. If you can't store them in a cool place, then a refrigerator is fine. If your jars aren't opaque, place them in a brown paper bag to help with the light.
06-10-2010, 09:15 PM
COzigzag

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Burp your jars periodically!
06-10-2010, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

Don't freeze! Frozen trichomes break off and can be lost. If you can't store them in a cool place, then a refrigerator is fine. If your jars aren't opaque, place them in a brown paper bag to help with the light.

Thanks! I've read conflicting things about frozen trichnomes. Does freezing them break them off or just loosen them from the bud? Reason I ask is, if I don't bump the jars/buds around will the trichs stay in place?

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Originally Posted by COzigzag

Burp your jars periodically!

Ok, this may sound like another stupid question. I assume you mean to change out the air in the jars occasionally. What does this do?

Thanks again, remember that I won't be digging into this bunch of mmj for six or so months. It's my paranoia stash that I accumulated in light of recent political events :tin foil hat:
06-10-2010, 10:01 PM
TheReleafCenter

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Originally Posted by telephone

Thanks! I've read conflicting things about frozen trichnomes. Does freezing them break them off or just loosen them from the bud? Reason I ask is, if I don't bump the jars/buds around will the trichs stay in place?

It'll make them brittle, which almost inevitably leads to breakage. There really isn't any advantage to freezing.:thumbsup:
06-10-2010, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

It'll make them brittle, which almost inevitably leads to breakage. There really isn't any advantage to freezing.:thumbsup:

Cool, thanks.

I hate the taste of frozen peas anyway.:jointsmile:
06-10-2010, 10:15 PM
COzigzag

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Burping is beneficial for osmosis. It draws moisture from the cell structures of your buds making sure it is dry.
06-10-2010, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by COzigzag

Burping is beneficial for osmosis. It draws moisture from the cell structures of your buds making sure it is dry.

Hey cool thanks.

I think my preliminary solution will be to try lots of 4oz mason jars (approx 2"x2") and a punch/valve device (pump-n-seal) that will supposedly allow me to pump all of the air out of the jars.

Overkill, maybe, but some threads on chowhound have helped to convince me that this may be the way to go. You know how picky those foodies can be:thumbsup:
06-11-2010, 12:16 AM
copobo

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if the herb is just how you like it, jarred in the fridge is good for 6 months+

If you like your herb a little damper, this is the only way to go (not too damp)