new invention, is this new? please confirm or try to guess what I am doing?

Ok i figured out a way to connect my whole system without drilling holes. In other words, I got a system that is about 10 containers, (several beds, sump, res) and I can connect them all without drilling a single hole. I have tubes connecting the containers and water can commute to 1 container from the other, but I have not drilled a single hole.

I can take the unit apart, reconfigure it, and break it down in place with water in it, in other words I don't have to drain it to modify it. Can anyone guess what I am doing?

I am experimenting with fluid dynamics.

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Sounds like a syphon to me, but I'm still looking for the lug nuts.
something about liquids seeking there own level

Daddy

your on to something. there are siphons in place, but how would the whole system run?

I'll take a stab and this is just a pure guess ..... Gravity??

the siphon pulls water from one container to the next through gravity, no holes required. heres a picture

...but I think a gentleman by the name of Archimedes may have beat you to it... Him, or one o' his contemporaries... still trying to remember who 'discovered' the principle of the syphon/wick.

Interesting factoid: there are some Roman fountains still functioning, solely on the principles of 2000-year-old aquaducts. Some of these take water from springs (many!) miles away, and channel it to, well, Rome...

of course. but advances are made sometimes by taking old technologies and applying them in a new way. im not claiming to have invented that but this is valuable because of the following:

just makes for expandability and reconfiguration while the system is still full of water. just lift the tubes out of the water to seperate that bucket/unit/bed/res from the rest of the system. you can have multiple length hoses, I have tested 2 units 20 feet apart and the flow is still the same. i can connect 8 units with 1 siphon sump. and you can make redundancies so there are like 4 tubes per bucket, that way if 1 tube clogs you got 3 more that will hold. also there is no need for a big res, the res connects to other units so they all feed back into res simultaneously. the pumps can be moved from res to other containers in the system if needed. if the res is pumped out and its waterline recedes 1 inch, all the other units will transfer their water into it until its waterline is the same as theirs. all the waterlines balance out simultaneously. the only hard part is forming siphons in these sumps so they are permanent but I have a fullproof way of doing that now...
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I used to do this to keep livewell fish alive before I got 'em to the campfire.

The trick is to get the hoses full first, or the air bubble at the top will kill the siphon action.

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Originally Posted by CovertCarpenter

...but I think a gentleman by the name of Archimedes may have beat you to it... Him, or one o' his contemporaries... still trying to remember who 'discovered' the principle of the syphon/wick.

Interesting factoid: there are some Roman fountains still functioning, solely on the principles of 2000-year-old aquaducts. Some of these take water from springs (many!) miles away, and channel it to, well, Rome...

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Actually I think it was Herotis(sp) who did a lot with water

thats right man. the bubble breaks the siphon, and the sump helps this downfall. as long as bubbles dont feed upwards into your siphon tubes, they will stay permanently

you can just hang these things, or the tubes themselves. they can just clip onto dwc units or bubbleponic units. grow beds can just empty into bins which are connected and just have buckets sitting in them like this one. this is my unit I used to grow these trees.

some pictures, notice where the line feeds in and where the end of it is

i know there are holes, but they can easily just be removed and replaced with a ziptie design or some kind of clip

...Please don't misunderstand... I absolutely LOVE that you're taking an oooold technology, and applying it in a new way to solve some problems that we're all having!

I'd like to see a diagram of your overall setup (just to try to track exactly what you're doing), the better to understand how you're inducing the initial syphon, as well as to figg'r out how you're routing things back to the resevoir.

Passive hydro ROCKS.

I'll have it soon. I got like tons of projects I'm working on at once, and I'm in the process of setting up my new aquaponics grow. I'll have more details in my movie which I keep saying I'm going to release but keep putting it off do to laziness. I should have this movie going soon should outline a lot of these technologies.