Advantages to banannas

It just so totally sucks to get banannas and hermies and intersexuals....especially when the pollenate some of the harem. Life can be discouraging at times.

But, if you look to a different aspect, that of the opportunity to experiment with something new, a person can have a neat time..(do I show my age with 'neat' better yet groovy? LOL)

So that damn BC seeds scammed me but I got a lot of pollen for deliberate crosses. In turn this was used to pollenate one branch of every different female I had at the time in the flower room. Currently the first 2 are started. Interesting they are not doing the stretchy that most new sprouts do, which to me usually indicates a very strong F1.

Some of these are real winners. I have one that is one of my favorites, mother is (I was told by the person that gave me the clone) an original White Widow. Great whore, had her for 7 years now. Anyhow, my species Washougal Wonder was a little unstable and it pollenated the Widow. That F1 is short and squat (both parents were sativa like), produces twice as much as it's mother, tastes better, high equivalent or better. The only problem with it is that it is terribly difficult to get clones to take!:wtf:

So some of these crosses can be real winners, I would say it averages 25% of them come out as equivalent or better than the parents.

Naming these seems to be the most difficult part. So far I just have been using the first letters of the parents to track not only who the parents are, but as a name. RMT just doesn't sound like kick your ass, want to screw all night weed, but it certainly is. LOL Then again Frick Yer Brains sounds kinda Effed up too...LOL I am wasted... I shouldn't be jabbering.

:stoned:I just love farming cannabis.:stoned:

I have a few strains that tend to pop late flowering nanners. If you look at some of my threads you can find some pictures of this very special purple strain that tends to hermaphrodite on me in the last weeks of flower. Now this doesnt ALWAYS happen, just when I stress her at the end of flower(sometimes I stress ripen by placing plants in complete darkness)

Since you are a fellow washingtonian and medical marijuana patient, i was wondering if somehow I could donate some of the pollen to you. At some point I may have to stop growing and I would hate to lose something I have cherished for a long time. If you used the pollen I have a strong feeling that it would bring a strong Purple influence.

You can do whatever you want with it and claim it as your own, I just want to genetics to live on.

Appreciate the offer. Under most circumstances I would. Now, I have several, crosses I am working on and have no extra room/plant count.

yea i have the same problem. I have 5 different clone strains that Im trying to seed out. I just simply dont have enough room for every kind.

Im going to do a big breeding project with the next grow to make some crosses out of my strains.

How do you store pollen? Ive searched for a couple of methods online but im not really finding a soilid answer

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Originally Posted by drudown11

yea i have the same problem. I have 5 different clone strains that Im trying to seed out. I just simply dont have enough room for every kind.

Im going to do a big breeding project with the next grow to make some crosses out of my strains.

How do you store pollen? Ive searched for a couple of methods online but im not really finding a soilid answer

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I believe you can store it in a zip lock baggie in the fridge for up to 2 months and it still be potent.

I just store it in little closed containers in darkness.

I think pollen can be viable for thousands of years as it is more like a 'key' that completes a circuit. I have no fact to back me up...all theory on my part ...related to my years of life knowledge, not sure where the F I learned that.

Sorry to tell you but pollen is only good for about 2 weeks. A little longer in the fridge but no more.

The reason for this is pollen from many years or hundreds of years would be pollenating now if it could.

The need for males would almost stop. We are obsolite boys. LOL

Carefully pick nanners of male flowers and place them on a ziplock bag and place in the fridge veggie drawer. That's it. Oh , use them as soon as you can. See males come out about 2 weeks before females are in full bloom.

I have been getting a few nanners on the strains I have and I love to get a few femm seed each time. I stressed some out that had cynaobacteria with physan20 and ended up with a shitload femm seed.

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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder

So that damn BC seeds scammed me

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How did they scam you?

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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder

Naming these seems to be the most difficult part.

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How about:
Afternoon Delight
Sex on-a stick
BudLove
Nookie Nugs
Blowin in the wind
Master Bates
Seattle Stripper...

Rusty,
Their genetics are crap. Out of 12 new white widow seeds I got one female that did not herme, it barely had trichomes, nothing like any of the other stuff I grow, worse than bag seed. Other species of theirs I tried all went hermaphroditic.

Just junk. All farce.

Hmm...That sucks. All but one hermied...? Any changes to the growroom, nutrients or enviornment? No light leaks or interrupted night cycles?

Am in hopes you're wrong about the BC Seeds being junk. I just started some of their Jedi (J41) and some of the Kali Skunk. For their customers sake, I hope it's an isolated incident. For your sake, I hope they at least sent replacements and a kiss-ass appology. (for their prices, the seeds should jump into the soil, water themselves, and have a red pop-up timer thing when ready for harvest)

I wouldn't risk backing this upcoming statement with my life or reputation, but I seem to get a larger percentage of females during the summer growing cycles, than my winter grows. Maybe it's a temperature during development thing, (seems to work for crocodiles and turtles) or it could be a catching-up to the law of averages thing. IDK.
I've often thought about this...but in the wild, the female flower has to be mature enough to be properly pollinated, so an early male plant might miss his opportunity if too early. In other words...are the males waiting for later in the season to sprout and mature? (is this why some seeds don't pop when the others do?) That would imply pre-determined sex while still in the embryo though. This theory flies in the face of my previous statement, but I thought I'd throw this out there and see if any others have valid insight, either way.

interestingly Rusty, none of my other species had any issues during the same grow period, so I have to assume it was the genetics, as everything else was/is fine.

Just appalled at the lack of trichomes on the one I just took out, was amber. I would venture to say it had - at best - only 5% of my usual trichome load. A huge difference. I am assuming this will only be good for canna oil at this point if that.

Had the same probs with the genetics you mention from them too, not just one of their species, this was the only one that made it to harvest - if you can call it harvest.

I did manage to get pollen off them, but I guess by now it is no good any more from what the thread shows.

as i said in another thread, i cant see what the big issue is if a plant herms, especially when and if its good bud. as much as seeds cost, especially herm seeds. it used to be years ago when you bought regular street level pot, it was rare to find actual seedless pot. i remeber years ago, i used to throw my seeds in a quart mason jar we would get so many, and after it was full we would have this lady down the street make us all kinds of god shit, such as ointment,ect. hell, she even had a way to make hempseed chapstik that worked much better than any of the crap you can buy today. if you have a great strain you like, why would you object to a few seeds? especially when they are hermed and you know your gonna get female plants out of them. ive had friends call me jumping up and down with joy just finding a couple of seeds in their weed!


if you have a plant that herms, watch it closely and make sure its in a controlled enviroment, either collect the pollen and seed a branch or two on another plant ( those small wispy lower branches work great for that) or let it seed your whole plant. heck ive got a elephant purple that i sprayed with collidial silver spray that was just starting to bud, and the sucker literally turned into a 80% male plant. no problem though as i love to get hermed plants, especially if its good stuff.

for years, thats how we took the "elite clone only" strains and got seeds. we had purple kush, grandaddy purple and ALOT of others seeds within 3 months of the strains hitting the streets.

sorry guys but i just never could understand spending hundreds of bucks on seeds when its so easy to make your own. ive only attempted to "buy" seeds twice, and both times i got fucked on the deal. once by the sponsor here, and another time by nirvana of all people. i didnt get my seeds, and when i contacted them, they sad they wuld send me HALF of my order as a replacement, and i never saw that order either. i eve emailed the shit out of them wondering if it was shipped and never got one single response. i wouldnt recommend them to my worst enemy.

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Originally Posted by NorCalShooter

as i said in another thread, i cant see what the big issue is if a plant herms, especially when and if its good bud. as much as seeds cost, especially herm seeds.

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Seeds cost you dearly in yield. Not only in that plant, but all that are in or near the same room.
The covering (calyx) tastes like crap, seeds are inconvienent, (especially when smoking it in the quantities that us med patients do) and consistently using those seeds to breed...you are degrading the genetic diversity of the plants wiich can cause problems from inability to fend-off infections and stress, to degraded psychotropic effects.

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Originally Posted by NorCalShooter

sorry guys but i just never could understand spending hundreds of bucks on seeds when its so easy to make your own.

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Since this is a medical cannabis site, I'll put it this way...
Some folks have very limited time or energy to invest in an all-encompasing chore, like growing their own meds. To some, any technique or process that makes this an easier task, is well worth the money. Frankly, most of us would rather grow a little bit of quality, than a shitload of crap.

Since this is a learning process, and there's no daytime TV shows helping homebound folks through this process, we do what we can. That's why this site is so important. It's the best place on the web where us medical users can come to learn, without the judgemental attitudes from pre-pubescent kids acting like they are the most important thing online, with the most up-to-date misconceptions currently available. I've been there and done that...and am unimpressed with those multi-activity sites. Not a conservatives cup of tea, ya know...?

Anyway, if you don't care about your efforts being wasted on unusable seeds of crappy genetics, let 'em grow. But you'll eventually pay the price.

You're not selling that (hermies are good) crap to medical users, are you? :wtf:

(for their prices, the seeds should jump into the soil, water themselves, and have a red pop-up timer thing when ready for harvest)

That did bring a smile. :D

HMR

Since you are a fellow washingtonian and medical marijuana patient, i was wondering if somehow I could donate some of the pollen to you. At some point I may have to stop growing and I would hate to lose something I have cherished for a long time. If you used the pollen I have a strong feeling that it would bring a strong Purple influence.

Hey cool. Another washingtonian. I am also across from Portland in the couve. Im just underway with my first ever grow. I have 10 different strains given to me as clones. Not the best way to learn with all different strains but they are all lookin great sofar.

I have white widow
Purple earkle
Snowdog
Sour Diesel
Mendo Purp
Blueberry
Super Silver Haze
Sheba
Blue Cheeze
and Strawberry Cough
One of the guys at the portland cannabis college gave me a clone of each.

Nice to see some people close by

Good weekend to ya people