T.H.Seeds in Boulder! Which shop?

OK I saw someone post about this yesterday... some shop in Boulder is now offering T.H.Seeds! It's nice to finally have something around other than TGA/Subcool:D Not that those are bad, but bigger selection is always better!

Anyone know which shop(s) has these?

Also, anyone have any thoughts on T.H.Seeds strains? Here's what I pulled off the TH Seeds website... not sure if these are all carried locally:

* s.a.g.e.
* chocolate chunk
* mendocino madness
* heavy duty fruity
* bubblegum
* skunk xxx
* the hog
* mk-ultra
* sage 'n sour
* kushage
* burmese kush
* zero-gravity
* pg-13
* da purps
* a-train
* wreckage
* Lambo
* darkstar

Well, with the current climate and laws it might not be bad idea to pick up a pack or two!! Selection and variety available at remaining dispensaries may not be what it is now! Hell, I've always like nicely grown SAGE. Heard it's a bit finicky to grow, but might not be a bad idea to pick some up. Anyone else enjoy any THSeeds strains?

I have nothing but good things to say about the thseed boys!! quality gear if you ask me..The S.A.G.E. is one of my go to strains for pain relief.

lamp hit me up or come by the shop my boy is gonna be a rep for thseeds so d9 will have them hopefully:thumbsup: I do believe there are only like 4 strains that are going to be available at first:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by funkfingers

lamp hit me up or come by the shop my boy is gonna be a rep for thseeds so d9 will have them hopefully:thumbsup: I do believe there are only like 4 strains that are going to be available at first:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

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Are they available inhouse yet? How much?

Thank you! :thumbsup:

That explains all the SAGE everywhere.

I have grown quite a bit of SAGE and I havent noticed it being finicky whatsoever, actually its the easiest plant I've grown, yields excellent, good appeal and is very strong. The only drawback is people now are so much into smell and taste some are turned off by it. Some people love it and some hate it so I think this will be my last grow of it.

I also grew some Burmese Kush and Kushage. The Burmese takes a lot longer to flower than advertised (at least 10 - 11 weeks) and the Kushage grew excellent but didnt have the punch as the SAGE. If I was to grow any other TH strains it would be the Sage N Sour, but I have to say I've come to the conclusion that TH Seeds does not have stable phenos at all.

Derek, one of the co-owners of In Harmony Wellness in Windsor said he would be carrying THSeeds on the John Doe Radio podcast this week.

Not sure if he is doing it already or will be a future thing. Call em.

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Originally Posted by Zedleppelin

That explains all the SAGE everywhere.

I have grown quite a bit of SAGE and I havent noticed it being finicky whatsoever, actually its the easiest plant I've grown, yields excellent, good appeal and is very strong. The only drawback is people now are so much into smell and taste some are turned off by it. Some people love it and some hate it so I think this will be my last grow of it.

I also grew some Burmese Kush and Kushage. The Burmese takes a lot longer to flower than advertised (at least 10 - 11 weeks) and the Kushage grew excellent but didnt have the punch as the SAGE. If I was to grow any other TH strains it would be the Sage N Sour, but I have to say I've come to the conclusion that TH Seeds does not have stable phenos at all.

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Cool, thanks. I don't think they're available yet, or they just recently have become available... but I know what you're saying about the SAGE around Boulder and the mountains up there.

Yeah, I was thinking Sage N Sour and SAGE. Haven't tried the Sage N Sour but saw some pics on another forum that looked really nice!

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Originally Posted by Zedleppelin

That explains all the SAGE everywhere.

I have grown quite a bit of SAGE and I havent noticed it being finicky whatsoever, actually its the easiest plant I've grown, yields excellent, good appeal and is very strong. The only drawback is people now are so much into smell and taste some are turned off by it. Some people love it and some hate it so I think this will be my last grow of it.

I also grew some Burmese Kush and Kushage. The Burmese takes a lot longer to flower than advertised (at least 10 - 11 weeks) and the Kushage grew excellent but didnt have the punch as the SAGE. If I was to grow any other TH strains it would be the Sage N Sour, but I have to say I've come to the conclusion that TH Seeds does not have stable phenos at all.

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The SAGE has been here for a real long time, since the strain was introduced to the public...

Actually, all the SAGE being here has nothing to do with THSeeds being here in Colorado.....I went to Amsterdam in 2003 and bought a pack of SAGE seeds, grew them out in Ft Collins and Boulder, and picked the current phenotype that is going around all of Colorado.....I must have given it to 15-20 people just after the first harvest in 2003,....after the second harvest I gave it to another 20 people and everyone I gave it to said they gave it to multiple people.... and so on and so on.

Unfortunately, I'd say that about 50% of the people currently growing it haven't a clue as to what they are doing, and get these small, spindly nuggets, that don't even yield very well. Personally, the SAGE is one of the best yielders I have ever seen in my life and has been known to kick down over 3lbs per 1000w light on MANY occasions.....2.5 is about average among my friends.
The key(s) is lots of supercropping in veg, lots of topping, lots of bending, lots of pinching, get it wider than it is tall, and then flip it under a SCROG...Also, you gotta give it lots off runoff and lots of air flow (as with any strain)....I water my 5 gallon soil buckets with 3 gallons of water or food every watering....Also, lots of people who use dirt aren't letting their soil dry completely out before they water again....That shit should be bone dry.....If not, you are gonna cause a lack of oxygen in the roots, and cause root rot, making it hard for your plants to take anything up, and creating tiny little buds, but of good quality......If you really ever wanna get the yields that you hear people talking about in dirt (2-3 lbs per light), you HAVE to have serious runoff, serious airflow, very wide plants, and utilize a screen, especially for long flowering strains.....and again, let that dirt get so dry that it's almost to the point of wilting before you water it...
I could go on forever, and when I tell people about these yields on certain strains in dirt, in the scrog, alot of people think I am lying to them.....I just promise that I have no reason to lie to anyone, especially some people online who I don't even know.....I am just trying to (A) Spread some of the information I have obtained over the years and (B) hoping to see more SAGE that is truly representative of the strain and the way it was meant to be grown.....Call that selfish, but it's the alternative to hoarding a strain, which is a practice that I am not fond of, but can see in today's current market why people are doing it......Sometimes I wish I'd never given this strain to anyone and had it exclusively, but I really prefer to share and let everyone enjoy something that I enjoy.

Hope some of this helped someone somewhere.


Peace

Cool, thanks for the info bro!

I've seen some really great SAGE up in the mountains.. particularly Rollinsville. I forgot where they said it was grown... Eldo?

But I've also seen horrible crappy SAGE that looked like it was grown under CFLs. I'd love to get that cut, but I think I'll just have to go through my pack of seeds!!

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Originally Posted by Sagemeister

Actually, all the SAGE being here has nothing to do with THSeeds being here in Colorado.....I went to Amsterdam in 2003 and bought a pack of SAGE seeds, grew them out in Ft Collins and Boulder, and picked the current phenotype that is going around all of Colorado.....I must have given it to 15-20 people just after the first harvest in 2003,....after the second harvest I gave it to another 20 people and everyone I gave it to said they gave it to multiple people.... and so on and so on.

Unfortunately, I'd say that about 50% of the people currently growing it haven't a clue as to what they are doing, and get these small, spindly nuggets, that don't even yield very well. Personally, the SAGE is one of the best yielders I have ever seen in my life and has been known to kick down over 3lbs per 1000w light on MANY occasions.....2.5 is about average among my friends.
The key(s) is lots of supercropping in veg, lots of topping, lots of bending, lots of pinching, get it wider than it is tall, and then flip it under a SCROG...Also, you gotta give it lots off runoff and lots of air flow (as with any strain)....I water my 5 gallon soil buckets with 3 gallons of water or food every watering....Also, lots of people who use dirt aren't letting their soil dry completely out before they water again....That shit should be bone dry.....If not, you are gonna cause a lack of oxygen in the roots, and cause root rot, making it hard for your plants to take anything up, and creating tiny little buds, but of good quality......If you really ever wanna get the yields that you hear people talking about in dirt (2-3 lbs per light), you HAVE to have serious runoff, serious airflow, very wide plants, and utilize a screen, especially for long flowering strains.....and again, let that dirt get so dry that it's almost to the point of wilting before you water it...
I could go on forever, and when I tell people about these yields on certain strains in dirt, in the scrog, alot of people think I am lying to them.....I just promise that I have no reason to lie to anyone, especially some people online who I don't even know.....I am just trying to (A) Spread some of the information I have obtained over the years and (B) hoping to see more SAGE that is truly representative of the strain and the way it was meant to be grown.....Call that selfish, but it's the alternative to hoarding a strain, which is a practice that I am not fond of, but can see in today's current market why people are doing it......Sometimes I wish I'd never given this strain to anyone and had it exclusively, but I really prefer to share and let everyone enjoy something that I enjoy.

Hope some of this helped someone somewhere.


Peace

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Sounds like we have similar training techniques.... quite a few strains will hit the 3 lbs / 1000W mark... of course not all, but many. :thumbsup:

The SAGE going around now is good, but around 2000-2002 a buddy grew some in a greenhouse that was amazing. Not as heavy a yielder as yours, but incredible smell / taste... I think others could start SAGE seeds and get a completely different pheno that what's available now...

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Originally Posted by Sagemeister

Actually, all the SAGE being here has nothing to do with THSeeds being here in Colorado.....I went to Amsterdam in 2003 and bought a pack of SAGE seeds, grew them out in Ft Collins and Boulder, and picked the current phenotype that is going around all of Colorado.....I must have given it to 15-20 people just after the first harvest in 2003,....after the second harvest I gave it to another 20 people and everyone I gave it to said they gave it to multiple people.... and so on and so on.

Unfortunately, I'd say that about 50% of the people currently growing it haven't a clue as to what they are doing, and get these small, spindly nuggets, that don't even yield very well. Personally, the SAGE is one of the best yielders I have ever seen in my life and has been known to kick down over 3lbs per 1000w light on MANY occasions.....2.5 is about average among my friends.
The key(s) is lots of supercropping in veg, lots of topping, lots of bending, lots of pinching, get it wider than it is tall, and then flip it under a SCROG...Also, you gotta give it lots off runoff and lots of air flow (as with any strain)....I water my 5 gallon soil buckets with 3 gallons of water or food every watering....Also, lots of people who use dirt aren't letting their soil dry completely out before they water again....That shit should be bone dry.....If not, you are gonna cause a lack of oxygen in the roots, and cause root rot, making it hard for your plants to take anything up, and creating tiny little buds, but of good quality......If you really ever wanna get the yields that you hear people talking about in dirt (2-3 lbs per light), you HAVE to have serious runoff, serious airflow, very wide plants, and utilize a screen, especially for long flowering strains.....and again, let that dirt get so dry that it's almost to the point of wilting before you water it...
I could go on forever, and when I tell people about these yields on certain strains in dirt, in the scrog, alot of people think I am lying to them.....I just promise that I have no reason to lie to anyone, especially some people online who I don't even know.....I am just trying to (A) Spread some of the information I have obtained over the years and (B) hoping to see more SAGE that is truly representative of the strain and the way it was meant to be grown.....Call that selfish, but it's the alternative to hoarding a strain, which is a practice that I am not fond of, but can see in today's current market why people are doing it......Sometimes I wish I'd never given this strain to anyone and had it exclusively, but I really prefer to share and let everyone enjoy something that I enjoy.

Hope some of this helped someone somewhere.


Peace

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Hows this look?

Hard to say just by looking.....It looks decent....Definitely not the best or worst I've ever seen.....Was it grown in soil? Organic?

heres a pic of mine, before trimming:

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Originally Posted by Sagemeister

heres a pic of mine, before trimming:

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know of anywhere your cut is available?...been looking for a sage, but dont want to grab some unproven vendor bs off a disp shelf.

Thanks

and if it is available I got a few questions.

-flowering time?
-stretch from the flip?
-veg/bloom nute requirements?

Thanks

In terms of getting it from a Dispensary, I haven't really given it out myself to any stores, but if Delta 9 has one, it's the same cut.....I can possibly talk to Jason down there and see if I can get him a couple.

As for floweing time, I personally like to pick it at 74....But it has a window from 70-80 days.....I like the taste a little early, it tends to give a sweet peachy flavor....That's where I pick the ones for my head....But in terms of resin and weight, closer to 80 is the way to go...It starts to almost taste like straight kif and does become more potent towards 80.....I just personally prefer the taste of it earlier.....either way, it's really one of those strains that really benefits from a long cure.....Sometimes I will keep a jar of what I thought was the best one, and then a month or two later, decide to try some of the other jar (that I thought was not as good), and i'll realize that now it tastes better on account of sitting in that sealed jar for awhile.

Stretch---They stretch like motherfuckers.....It's hard for me to tell you exactly how much because I use a screen, and I flower them about 1/2 a foot below the screen and when they hit the screen, I just start weaving them through, keeping them more or less at the same height, and then when the initial stretch is over, I just let them build their smokeable material upwar towards the light....They do stretch a ton...I can say that....but that is teh benefit of using a Scrog....You can take any long stretching, long flowering ssativa and it's n ot gonna get any closer to the light than a pure indica would.
The nute requirements are even harder for me to explain, because I really go by eye, every time....I will say they are definitely on the high end of flowering nute requirements.....I use plain Sunshine #4 soil, and I repot straight from cubes into 5 gallon Home Depot paint buckets....For the first 3 weeks of veg, I really don't give it anything but H2O......once the 4th week rolls around, I may start to see a little yellowing on the very bottom leaves and I actually hit em up with 2 gallons of water with 10ml Age Old Organics Flowering (It's a little lighter on the nitro and I feel safer with it),4-5 ml of Hyrozyme, and about 3ml of Liquid Karma in each gallon.

In Flowering, I ALWAYS give them 3 gallons, everytime they are thirsty, however, every 3rd watering, I give them pure H20.....When I do give them nutes, I start with 1 gallon of pure H20, and then hit them with 2 gallons of:10-15 ml Age Old Fl., 5ml Hygrozyme, and 5ml Liquid Karma per gallon
When I think it's needed, I hit them with a little succanat here or there, or a little Calcium or Magnesium if I see a deficiency.

Hey Sagemeister. What is the hygrozyme used for? Does that help break down nutes in the soil for the plants to utlize easier? I know it's used to break down dead roots and stuff and help prevent root rot... but just curious what other uses people see for it!

delta 9 is now carrying T.H. Seeds breeder packs,
Mk Ultra
Kushage

90$+ tax for a pack of 10:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

Plan on getting any SAGE?

no sage just yet I know it's in the works though, along with the burmese kush, the sage and sour , and i think the darkstar as well. remember all these seeds are bred in the great state of Colorado so this kind of a thing takes some time.:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Sagemeister

In terms of getting it from a Dispensary, I haven't really given it out myself to any stores, but if Delta 9 has one, it's the same cut.....I can possibly talk to Jason down there and see if I can get him a couple.

As for floweing time, I personally like to pick it at 74....But it has a window from 70-80 days.....I like the taste a little early, it tends to give a sweet peachy flavor....That's where I pick the ones for my head....But in terms of resin and weight, closer to 80 is the way to go...It starts to almost taste like straight kif and does become more potent towards 80.....I just personally prefer the taste of it earlier.....either way, it's really one of those strains that really benefits from a long cure.....Sometimes I will keep a jar of what I thought was the best one, and then a month or two later, decide to try some of the other jar (that I thought was not as good), and i'll realize that now it tastes better on account of sitting in that sealed jar for awhile.

Stretch---They stretch like motherfuckers.....It's hard for me to tell you exactly how much because I use a screen, and I flower them about 1/2 a foot below the screen and when they hit the screen, I just start weaving them through, keeping them more or less at the same height, and then when the initial stretch is over, I just let them build their smokeable material upwar towards the light....They do stretch a ton...I can say that....but that is teh benefit of using a Scrog....You can take any long stretching, long flowering ssativa and it's n ot gonna get any closer to the light than a pure indica would.
The nute requirements are even harder for me to explain, because I really go by eye, every time....I will say they are definitely on the high end of flowering nute requirements.....I use plain Sunshine #4 soil, and I repot straight from cubes into 5 gallon Home Depot paint buckets....For the first 3 weeks of veg, I really don't give it anything but H2O......once the 4th week rolls around, I may start to see a little yellowing on the very bottom leaves and I actually hit em up with 2 gallons of water with 10ml Age Old Organics Flowering (It's a little lighter on the nitro and I feel safer with it),4-5 ml of Hyrozyme, and about 3ml of Liquid Karma in each gallon.

In Flowering, I ALWAYS give them 3 gallons, everytime they are thirsty, however, every 3rd watering, I give them pure H20.....When I do give them nutes, I start with 1 gallon of pure H20, and then hit them with 2 gallons of:10-15 ml Age Old Fl., 5ml Hygrozyme, and 5ml Liquid Karma per gallon
When I think it's needed, I hit them with a little succanat here or there, or a little Calcium or Magnesium if I see a deficiency.

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Meister,

Is this what "Sea of Green" is?

Thank you for the tips to a noob!
j

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Originally Posted by Justabloke

Meister,

Is this what "Sea of Green" is?

Thank you for the tips to a noob!
j

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you have sog and scrog,sog is seaofgreen which is basicly none to very lil training with lots of plants in short.scrog is screen of green you train the plants through the screen.this does a couple of things 1 it stunts vert growth but allows a uniform canopy if done right.it also allows more of the light to reach more of the plant as you bush it out.i do kindda like meister i have done it from the start and liked it and just kept on with it.i supercrop and fim my plants.i don't sog tho, i do 2 maybe 3 plants per 1k.i end up with alil over 2, 2.5 lbs per light with a month veg time.i stick to pure indca or hybrid mix.:stoned:

lamp the sage,hdf,and mk ultra are good, potent, great yeilders.atleast for me...

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Originally Posted by Sagemeister

In terms of getting it from a Dispensary, I haven't really given it out myself to any stores, but if Delta 9 has one, it's the same cut.....I can possibly talk to Jason down there and see if I can get him a couple.

As for floweing time, I personally like to pick it at 74....But it has a window from 70-80 days.....I like the taste a little early, it tends to give a sweet peachy flavor....That's where I pick the ones for my head....But in terms of resin and weight, closer to 80 is the way to go...It starts to almost taste like straight kif and does become more potent towards 80.....I just personally prefer the taste of it earlier.....either way, it's really one of those strains that really benefits from a long cure.....Sometimes I will keep a jar of what I thought was the best one, and then a month or two later, decide to try some of the other jar (that I thought was not as good), and i'll realize that now it tastes better on account of sitting in that sealed jar for awhile.

Stretch---They stretch like motherfuckers.....It's hard for me to tell you exactly how much because I use a screen, and I flower them about 1/2 a foot below the screen and when they hit the screen, I just start weaving them through, keeping them more or less at the same height, and then when the initial stretch is over, I just let them build their smokeable material upwar towards the light....They do stretch a ton...I can say that....but that is teh benefit of using a Scrog....You can take any long stretching, long flowering ssativa and it's n ot gonna get any closer to the light than a pure indica would.
The nute requirements are even harder for me to explain, because I really go by eye, every time....I will say they are definitely on the high end of flowering nute requirements.....I use plain Sunshine #4 soil, and I repot straight from cubes into 5 gallon Home Depot paint buckets....For the first 3 weeks of veg, I really don't give it anything but H2O......once the 4th week rolls around, I may start to see a little yellowing on the very bottom leaves and I actually hit em up with 2 gallons of water with 10ml Age Old Organics Flowering (It's a little lighter on the nitro and I feel safer with it),4-5 ml of Hyrozyme, and about 3ml of Liquid Karma in each gallon.

In Flowering, I ALWAYS give them 3 gallons, everytime they are thirsty, however, every 3rd watering, I give them pure H20.....When I do give them nutes, I start with 1 gallon of pure H20, and then hit them with 2 gallons of:10-15 ml Age Old Fl., 5ml Hygrozyme, and 5ml Liquid Karma per gallon
When I think it's needed, I hit them with a little succanat here or there, or a little Calcium or Magnesium if I see a deficiency.

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I am pretty sure this is the same pheno I have, usally averages out at about 2.5 -3 lbs per scrog. Awsome smoke and a moster yeilder of good sticky bud, great for pain, would like to know if this is what you had in 83, have had this for almost as long as my cherry slyder.

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lamp the sage,hdf,and mk ultra are good, potent, great yeilders.atleast for me...

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Thanks. HDF???

SAGE is definitely going to be one of my 4-5 staple strains when I get set up.

Sage is nice. Easy to grow, nice yield, and great effects.

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Thanks. HDF???

SAGE is definitely going to be one of my 4-5 staple strains when I get set up.

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HDF= heavy duty fruity, it's a skunk hybrid, great producer, relatively easy to grow, but odor control is essential as she is a smelly girl :jointsmile::jointsmile:

will have to give it a try a few runs from now.

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HDF= heavy duty fruity, it's a skunk hybrid, great producer, relatively easy to grow, but odor control is essential as she is a smelly girl :jointsmile::jointsmile:

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eh, looks ok ;)

T.H.Seeds Heavy Duty Fruity

Got some Bubblegum cuts in '95, they were awesome.

^That's exactly what I thought when I tried it... I picked some up awhile back I think from ReLeaf.

I would suggest The Greenest Green. Adam did a presentation there last week so it seems as if they would be a good candidate for having THSeeds seeds available.

Here's a video of part of the "presentation":

YouTube - Meet and Green with the SAGEMASTA at The Greenest Green Boulder,CO

lol, 30g of pot going through a leafblower...haha

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^That's exactly what I thought when I tried it... I picked some up awhile back I think from ReLeaf.

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depends on how good it was grown too....