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SCR10-005 Defines "Caregiver"
If you are a Caregiver and have the time or interest to listen in today, they are introducing this resolution starting at 1:30 P.M. today.
To listen in on the reading, click here: Colorado General Assembly: Audio
Then click on: Senate Committee Room 356.
Senate Calendar (Scroll to page 11 for SCR10-005):
Colorado General Assembly
Cut & Paste Version (this is not the full version):
Section 14 (1) (f) and (2) (d) of article XVIII of the constitution of
the state of Colorado are amended, and the said section 14 of article
XVIII is further amended BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW
SUBSECTION, to read:
Section 14. Medical use of marijuana for persons suffering
from debilitating medical conditions. (1) As used in this section, these
terms are defined as follows:
(f) "Primary care-giver" means a NATURAL person, other than the
patient and the patient's physician, who is eighteen years of age or older
and has significant responsibility for managing the well-being of a patient
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who has a debilitating medical condition. A "PRIMARY CARE-GIVER"
SHALL ASSIST THE PATIENT WITH HANDLING THE EFFECTS AND
CONSEQUENCES OF THE DEBILITATING MEDICAL CONDITION, INCLUDING
ADMINISTRATION OF PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION, ATTENDANCE AT
MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, ASSURING THE PATIENT COMPLIES WITH DIETARY
REQUIREMENTS, AND ASSISTANCE WITH OTHER DAILY ASPECTS OF THE
PATIENT'S HOUSING, SAFETY, AND COMFORT. "PRIMARY CARE-GIVER"
SHALL NOT INCLUDE A PERSON WHOSE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE PATIENT
INCLUDE ONLY THE CULTIVATION OF MARIJUANA ON BEHALF OF THE
PATIENT OR THE PROVISION, SALE, OR DISTRIBUTION OF MARIJUANA TO THE
PATIENT.
(2) (d) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions, no person,
including a patient or primary care-giver, shall be entitled to the
protection of this section for his or her acquisition, possession,
manufacture, production, use, sale, distribution, dispensing, or
transportation of marijuana for any use other than medical use. A
PRIMARY CARE-GIVER SHALL BE AFFORDED THE AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE OR
EXCEPTION FROM THE CRIMINAL LAW ONLY FOR MARIJUANA USED OR
INTENDED TO BE USED BY HIS OR HER PATIENT. THE PROTECTION OF THIS
SECTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO THE RETAIL SALE OF MARIJUANA, WHETHER
OR NOT FOR PROFIT, NOR TO THE CULTIVATION OF MARIJUANA BY ANYONE
OTHER THAN A PATIENT OR PRIMARY CARE-GIVER FOR USE BY THE
PATIENT.
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Does SCR10-005 limit the number of patients a single caregiver can have? Also do you have a direct link to this bill?
Thanks in advance
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It just keeps getting worse and worse for the patients and the growers.:mad:
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Originally Posted by Feijao
Does SCR10-005 limit the number of patients a single caregiver can have? Also do you have a direct link to this bill?
Thanks in advance
Direct Link:
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...=SCR005_01.pdf
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Originally Posted by COzigzag
Thanks my man.
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"The resolution narrows the definition of primary care-giver to
make it clear that a medical marijuana patient's primary care-giver's
responsibility must be greater than cultivating or providing medical
marijuana. The resolution clarifies that the medical marijuana affirmative
defense applies to a primary care-giver only in a situation in which the
primary care-giver is cultivating or providing medical marijuana to his or
her patient. The resolution declares that the medical marijuana
constitutional provisions do not create a right to operate a medical
marijuana retail operation or a medical marijuana cultivation operation."
Yea, that makes total sense
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How am I supposed to look after a patients saftey, and housing? Gimmie a break... We are cultivators... That's what we do, we are not doctors, counslers, therapists, or landscapers.. To ask a caregiver to be responsible for someones saftey is unrealistic... U have a green thumb that's what I'm good at.. I know nothing about making someones house "secure" and really that's the patients problem... State really wants to define what a caregiver is.. I'll tell you... Yr caregiver is the best grower you know.. A guy that does nothing but grow yr meds for you and offer them at a free/discounted price.. That's it.. Not yr security gard!
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Originally Posted by Delta9Caregivrs
How am I supposed to look after a patients saftey, and housing? Gimmie a break... We are cultivators... That's what we do, we are not doctors, counslers, therapists, or landscapers.. To ask a caregiver to be responsible for someones saftey is unrealistic... U have a green thumb that's what I'm good at.. I know nothing about making someones house "secure" and really that's the patients problem... State really wants to define what a caregiver is.. I'll tell you... Yr caregiver is the best grower you know.. A guy that does nothing but grow yr meds for you and offer them at a free/discounted price.. That's it.. Not yr security gard!
I think people are confusing the term "grower" and "caregiver." Caregiver must have a meaning before medical marijuana
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Originally Posted by neversummer
I think people are confusing the term "grower" and "caregiver." Caregiver must have a meaning before medical marijuana
Does an ammendment require a vote by the people? Also why not just rename caregiver to medicinal cannabis provider?
Welcome to the communist state of Colorado.
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Listening to the senate hearing on the ballot initiative to ban dispensaries.
Some goofball LEO is testifying at length to the patient/caregiver relationship as defined in Arkansas' medical marijuana law. LOL He said his information is well researched.
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Originally Posted by michaelnights
Listening to the senate hearing on the ballot initiative to ban dispensaries.
Some goofball LEO is testifying at length to the patient/caregiver relationship as defined in Arkansas' medical marijuana law. LOL He said his information is well researched.
good old Josh is on now, I want to vomit.:(
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It has failed in committee 4-3:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Yea! A win for our side.
The Honorable Senator Morgan Carroll, Chairwoman of the Senate Judiciary cast the tie breaking vote.
Let's all send her thank you emails.
[email protected]
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Originally Posted by michaelnights
Yea! A win for our side.
The Honorable Senator Morgan Carroll, Chairwoman of the Senate Judiciary cast the tie breaking vote.
Let's all send her thank you emails.
[email protected]
Emailing now.
Thanks,
Mike
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who all voted to kill? they should all be thanked.
after this session is over, I think we'll need a web based scorecard for how our various reps voted at various stages in this.
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Journal of the Senate will be published tomorrow and more details, voting records, will be available for today's committee vote.
FOR THE SCORE CARD
The first vote on HB 10-1284 was taken by the House Judiciary Committee on March 22. We don't like those who voted Yes.
(Note: This was a party line vote. All Dems voted Yes, but Reps voted No because they don't support enabling dispensaries - a pox on all of them.)
Lois Court, Dem., Central Denver - Yes
Bob Gardner, Rep. El Paso County - No
Daniel Kagan, Dem. South Denver - Yes
Steven King, Rep. Sioux City - No
Joe Miklosi, Dem. S.E. Denver - Yes
Betty Nikkel, Rep. Larimer County- No
Sal Pace, Dem. Pueblo - Yes
Su Ryden, Dem. Aurora - Yes
Mark Waller, Rep. Colorado Springs - No
Vice Chair, Beth McCann, Dem. Central Denver - Yes
Chairwoman, Claire Levy, Dem. E. Boulder - Yes
A special word of contempt for Levy. Besides being the most influential member of the most influential committee on this issue -- she placed last minute amendments on 4/20 before the floor vote, which were obvious designed to restrain trade, i.e.; edibles can't be made from mmj obtained from two dispensaries. If anyone looks like they're in a lobbyists pocket, she's the most obvious to me.
LAST CHANCE on HB 10-1284 - SEND EMAILS TO ALL SENATORS
More to come.
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Originally Posted by michaelnights
Journal of the Senate will be published tomorrow and more details, voting records, will be available for today's committee vote.
FOR THE SCORE CARD
The first vote on HB 10-1284 was taken by the House Judiciary Committee on March 22. We don't like those who voted Yes.
(Note: This was a party line vote. All Dems voted Yes, but Reps voted No because they don't support enabling dispensaries - a pox on all of them.)
Lois Court, Dem., Central Denver - Yes
Bob Gardner, Rep. El Paso County - No
Daniel Kagan, Dem. South Denver - Yes
Steven King, Rep. Sioux City - No
Joe Miklosi, Dem. S.E. Denver - Yes
Betty Nikkel, Rep. Larimer County- No
Sal Pace, Dem. Pueblo - Yes
Su Ryden, Dem. Aurora - Yes
Mark Waller, Rep. Colorado Springs - No
Vice Chair, Beth McCann, Dem. Central Denver - Yes
Chairwoman, Claire Levy, Dem. E. Boulder - Yes
A special word of contempt for Levy. Besides being the most influential member of the most influential committee on this issue -- she placed last minute amendments on 4/20 before the floor vote, which were obvious designed to restrain trade, i.e.; edibles can't be made from mmj obtained from two dispensaries. If anyone looks like they're in a lobbyists pocket, she's the most obvious to me.
LAST CHANCE on HB 10-1284 - SEND EMAILS TO ALL SENATORS
More to come.
It seems Levy had second thoughts after it came out of committee and voted no on the floor, which I feel came from pressure from us. Here is her email.
Mark,
I did vote no after thinking over the total effect of the bill. The bill passed by a wide margin and will be heard in the Senate Committee on Local Government (a strange place to send the bill, if you ask me).
I appreciate the professionalism of those who provided input. I certainly learned a lot. One reason I voted ??no? is that I realized I didn??t yet know enough to be able to say HB1284 is the best way to implement the intent of Amendment 20.
Claire
Claire Levy
State Representative
House District 13
303-866-2578 (capitol)
720-849-8983 (mobile)
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Why did Rep. Levy introduce a blatantly offensive amendment, one clearly designed to restrain trade and cause harm to the sick and then vote against it to days later? It doesn't pass the smell test.
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Where do these laws specify if you have to be a patient to be a caregiver? Because the way it reads anybody can be a caregiver,but the dispenary places tell me you have to be a patient. A friend of mines wife is a patient, but her husband is listed as her caregiver on her card...he isnt a patient...?!WHos full of it?
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Originally Posted by RockyMtnDezL
Where do these laws specify if you have to be a patient to be a caregiver? Because the way it reads anybody can be a caregiver,but the dispenary places tell me you have to be a patient. A friend of mines wife is a patient, but her husband is listed as her caregiver on her card...he isnt a patient...?!WHos full of it?
Dispensary
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Originally Posted by michaelnights
Why did Rep. Levy introduce a blatantly offensive amendment, one clearly designed to restrain trade and cause harm to the sick and then vote against it to days later? It doesn't pass the smell test.
It's called and open mind and a willingness to listen to her constituents concerns, I would much rather have someone that represents me that is willing to change their mind after hearing their constituents voices, then some clown that votes for something they don't believe in because they are scared of being called a "flip flopper" That's the point of debate and public forum to change the oppositions opinion.:thumbsup:
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GreatfulMeds, you are right. Your words are true and Rep Levy did not "flip-flop" with her vote. She voted no when she had the chance and I am pleased for her opposition.
There were two amendments to this bill that really hit me hard, Levy's being one of them. I am sure others have their own worst case amendments.
There obviously was far more money chasing this bill than any of us initially understood and the science of medicine became an orphan because of it.
The end result, it's now likely I will move to another state to continue my research on high CDB cannabis. If that's necessary, I will miss the land of my birth, Colorado. Some may recall the "summer of love" in San Francisco. In many ways Denver in 2009 had a similar remarkable spirit. It was wonderful.
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Originally Posted by michaelnights
GreatfulMeds, you are right. Your words are true and Rep Levy did not "flip-flop" with her vote. She voted no when she had the chance and I am pleased for her opposition.
There were two amendments to this bill that really hit me hard, Levy's being one of them. I am sure others have their own worst case amendments.
There obviously was far more money chasing this bill than any of us initially understood and the science of medicine became an orphan because of it.
The end result, it's now likely I will move to another state to continue my research on high CDB cannabis. If that's necessary, I will miss the land of my birth, Colorado. Some may recall the "summer of love" in San Francisco. In many ways Denver in 2009 had a similar remarkable spirit. It was wonderful.
It's not over and please do not move! You are right the Big $$$ was not identified and called out early in the process and many never realized what was really at stake. I agree the feeling in Denver/Boulder/Nederland did have the summer of love feel, and as many great movements and deeds were born of the Summer of 67, I think the same will be true of Colorado2009! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Delta9Caregivrs
How am I supposed to look after a patients saftey, and housing? Gimmie a break... We are cultivators... That's what we do, we are not doctors, counslers, therapists, or landscapers.. To ask a caregiver to be responsible for someones saftey is unrealistic... U have a green thumb that's what I'm good at.. I know nothing about making someones house "secure" and really that's the patients problem... State really wants to define what a caregiver is.. I'll tell you... Yr caregiver is the best grower you know.. A guy that does nothing but grow yr meds for you and offer them at a free/discounted price.. That's it.. Not yr security gard!
Exactly. You don't get prescription medicine and the manufacturer comes to your house and makes sure you are taking the right amount of medicine, walking your pets, cleaning your toilet and making your bed. No, he sits in his office and makes tons of money. This bill is really attacking marijuana and anyone who uses it. Low blow. :(
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Originally Posted by GratefulMeds
It's not over and please do not move! You are right the Big $$$ was not identified and called out early in the process and many never realized what was really at stake. I agree the feeling in Denver/Boulder/Nederland did have the summer of love feel, and as many great movements and deeds were born of the Summer of 67, I think the same will be true of Colorado2009! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
That's an interesting thought. I smoked my first joint in the summer of 1967. I grew my first joint in the summer of 2009.
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Doesn't the patient define what a Care Provider is, for each of them individually, based on personal needs? Do they really need help with this?
Maybe they can next define 'Shitting on the State's Constitution', for us? Or they already did that with HB 1284
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Originally Posted by PolishPotFarmer
Doesn't the patient define what a Care Provider is, for each of them individually, based on personal needs? Do they really need help with this?
Maybe they can next define 'Shitting on the State's Constitution', for us? Or they already did that with HB 1284
Mission accomplished!
:wtf:
