GM refuses to pay States 1284 Ransom

We will be having killer sales up to July 1st, with the intent of getting as much high quality medicine out there as cheap as possible. We will also be using the cash generated for a legal appeal of 1284. I got word from a reliable source in the know that this could get rammed through and signed in 10 days. We will call it quits before we pay these draconian fees designed to cut out the small grower and raise prices so the "Big Money" boys can make profits after the State forced 90% of there competition out of business.

In a year the system as is has almost wiped out the black market free of charge! It has forced the price of a pound to drop over $1000.00! And they say 1284 is to protect the patients, I think we were doing pretty good on our own.

The Drug War is a multi-billion dollar industry and won't go away without a fight.
As far as Colorado goes I believe this whole year we have been just sitting down to the poker table. Now the cards have finally been dealt and it's time to see who folds first.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

We r also in yr boat.. Kiss us goodbye in July if this holds up..
GM call me at the shop and let's pool our resources a fight this bs

Jason
delta9

ps my sources hav this bill being signed next week

best of luck Mark. Thanks for showing up to the hearings and speaking for us.

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best of luck Mark. Thanks for showing up to the hearings and speaking for us.

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My pleasure and we are not done fighting this but alas "Takers get the Honey, Giver's sing the blues!":wtf:

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Originally Posted by GratefulMeds

We will be having killer sales up to July 1st, with the intent of getting as much high quality medicine out there as cheap as possible. We will also be using the cash generated for a legal appeal of 1284. I got word from a reliable source in the know that this could get rammed through and signed in 10 days. We will call it quits before we pay these draconian fees designed to cut out the small grower and raise prices so the "Big Money" boys can make profits after the State forced 90% of there competition out of business.

In a year the system as is has almost wiped out the black market free of charge! It has forced the price of a pound to drop over $1000.00! And they say 1284 is to protect the patients, I think we were doing pretty good on our own.

The Drug War is a multi-billion dollar industry and won't go away without a fight.
As far as Colorado goes I believe this whole year we have been just sitting down to the poker table. Now the cards have finally been dealt and it's time to see who folds first.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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So ....Quit whining and take your $ and run....We feel so sorry for you!

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We will call it quits before we pay these draconian fees designed to cut out the small grower and raise prices so the "Big Money" boys can make profits after the State forced 90% of there competition out of business.

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Who exactly are the "Big Money" boys you refer too? I keep reading how the big boys and big dispensaries are going to monopolize the market and squeeze out the small growers but who are these people/dispensaries?

I personally will not be supporting them in any way, shape, or form! :wtf:

I also take exception that any transaction I make with a dispensary will be recorded for auditing purposes. :mad:

Thank you!

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Originally Posted by cronicmonster

So ....Quit whining and take your $ and run....We feel so sorry for you!

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No it's me that feels sorry for you!
it's A-holes like you that have helped make this happen with your illusions that we are all just raking in the cash and feeding that notion to the media, if you only knew the real work & overhead involved.
I've been helping folks get there medicine most likely longer then you have been on this earth. And I will continue to do so regardless! And by the way when I walk away I will sleep well knowing I gave it my all and tried to give my patrons the very best quality at the lowest price possible.:thumbsup:

D9 and GM what are your plans after closing your doors? I wish you guys the best which ever way you decide to go.

Thanks for all the help and info,
Mike

What can we do to help? This sounds like a great idea and we're already three dispensaries deep.

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Originally Posted by COzigzag

Who exactly are the "Big Money" boys you refer too? I keep reading how the big boys and big dispensaries are going to monopolize the market and squeeze out the small growers but who are these people/dispensaries?

I personally will not be supporting them in any way, shape, or form! :wtf:

I also take exception that any transaction I make with a dispensary will be recorded for auditing purposes. :mad:

Thank you!

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Josh Stanley for one, Peace and Medicine Center but now he has changed the name and opened two more. The Farmacy also seems to be in Romers pocket.

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What can we do to help? This sounds like a great idea and we're already three dispensaries deep.

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What we need to do is pool our funds, and get someone like a Rob Corry that isn't going to sell us out to file a class action suit. We also need to appeal the law as soon as it's signed. I would like to see as many dispensaries as possible on these actions.:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by COzigzag

Who exactly are the "Big Money" boys you refer too? I keep reading how the big boys and big dispensaries are going to monopolize the market and squeeze out the small growers but who are these people/dispensaries?

I personally will not be supporting them in any way, shape, or form! :wtf:

I also take exception that any transaction I make with a dispensary will be recorded for auditing purposes. :mad:

Thank you!

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See: Farmacy, The. Big Cali money. I'm assuming Patient's Choice would still be in play. Same for Herbal Remedies. Other than that, I'm not sure.

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What we need to do is pool our funds, and get someone like a Rob Corry that isn't going to sell us out to file a class action suit. We also need to appeal the law as soon as it's signed. I would like to see as many dispensaries as possible on these actions.:jointsmile:

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Rob has a non-profit already, right? Brian Vicente's ballot initiative looks like the most cohesive thing I've seen yet.

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Originally Posted by cronicmonster

So ....Quit whining and take your $ and run....We feel so sorry for you!

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Hey there Matt Brown, how are ya?

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Rob has a non-profit already, right? Brian Vicente's ballot initiative looks like the most cohesive thing I've seen yet.

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I would go with Rob on this one, Brian has been making me a bit nervous lately. I like Brians ballot initiative but I don't think it goes far enough.

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Originally Posted by COzigzag

Who exactly are the "Big Money" boys you refer too? I keep reading how the big boys and big dispensaries are going to monopolize the market and squeeze out the small growers but who are these people/dispensaries?

I personally will not be supporting them in any way, shape, or form! :wtf:

I also take exception that any transaction I make with a dispensary will be recorded for auditing purposes. :mad:

Thank you!

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You can find the big dispensaries by going to one of the dispensary directories and looking for the same dispensary name in multiple towns. One I know of is sorta' like McDonalds. They offer franchises. I've even heard one grower say that they came into a certain town and offered to sell him a franchise for a hefty sum. When he refused, they basically told him they would put him out of business. This is heresay, but it is from a source who I believe is credible.

thank you all for your hard work and dedication on the front lines of this battle for are god givin rights im glad to here your not done fighting. i as a patient and activist will not be done either...together we are strong

my buddy works for a cali carpetbagger dispenary...wellspring i think it is called

so glad our representatives are helping out the cali big money and shutting down the locals

also, i can say from being next to them at the dancin in the streets festival last summer that josh stanley is a douchebag...glad hes set up with this

finally, i am pretty sure green roots on tennyson is a cali carpetbagger too

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So ....Quit whining and take your $ and run....We feel so sorry for you!

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good thing all talking is done over the computer these days huh?:thumbsup:

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See: Farmacy, The. Big Cali money. I'm assuming Patient's Choice would still be in play. Same for Herbal Remedies. Other than that, I'm not sure.

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Man this is a bummer. Gone are the likes of D9 and GM and welcome to the fuckin "Herbal Remedies" of the world! That place is the biggest scam I've ever seen! They are ripping off Grandmas and people who know nothing. Never have I been in a place that was so blatantly about profit!

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No it's me that feels sorry for you!
it's A-holes like you that have helped make this happen with your illusions that we are all just raking in the cash and feeding that notion to the media, if you only knew the real work & overhead involved.
I've been helping folks get there medicine most likely longer then you have been on this earth. And I will continue to do so regardless! And by the way when I walk away I will sleep well knowing I gave it my all and tried to give my patrons the very best quality at the lowest price possible.:thumbsup:

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no people like that will never know how much hard work is involved.they are to busy running those silk lips.

i myself have only been to you're shop once to buy 4 pks of tga beans and it was a great price.compared to having to bid on them and wait weeks to get them.you have alot of strains to choose from too on the wall at great prices.

i don't see where you are making a boat load of cash like those chuckleheads seems to think.makes no sense that would be like me going to their jobs and telling their boss hey i think you are paying these guys to much an hour.the boss would say you really think 5.25 an hr is to much? i'd say yea from the looks of it cause everytime i order,:smokin: my food is cold.......

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im your huckleberry.....:thumbsup:

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I would go with Rob on this one, Brian has been making me a bit nervous lately. I like Brians ballot initiative but I don't think it goes far enough.

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well after reading the part where after it was all said and done he was fine with it?wtf really naw something is'nt right with that statement..

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Man this is a bummer. Gone are the likes of D9 and GM and welcome to the fuckin "Herbal Remedies" of the world! That place is the biggest scam I've ever seen! They are ripping off Grandmas and people who know nothing. Never have I been in a place that was so blatantly about profit!

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yup welcome to the world of mediocre= top notch.cause i don't see any real grower putting his/her face out there and paying all those fees to work with a shop.some may but i don't see many doing it with all the risks they will be taking.

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yup welcome to the world of mediocre= top notch.cause i don't see any real grower putting his/her face out there and paying all those fees to work with a shop.some may but i don't see many doing it with all the risks they will be taking.

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The patients I've talked to say they don't give a shit what happens, they'll still be getting their buds from other patients w/caregivers if their own doesn't have the quality/variety they need. Sounds like underground talk to me but who the hell is going to police all of the patients and make sure their not up to anything? I can see them handling caregivers and dispensaries but 100,000 patients? LAWL :D

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The patients I've talked to say they don't give a shit what happens, they'll still be getting their buds from other patients w/caregivers if their own doesn't have the quality/variety they need. Sounds like underground talk to me but who the hell is going to police all of the patients and make sure their not up to anything? I can see them handling caregivers and dispensaries but 100,000 patients? LAWL :D

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yup i believe or atleast thats what im going to do is stay at the 5 patient count if that is passed as well and just deal with patients.network that way.

but we might want to not talk to much on here about anything really as im for sure there are a few moles lurking about.

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Originally Posted by cronicmonster

So ....Quit whining and take your $ and run....We feel so sorry for you!

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very un-cool response if it was meant in a mean way....we need to stand behind are current dispensary's not attack them....

respectfully said.

greatfulmeds:
I own a small dispensary in denver and will also refuse to give into this state wide BS and will be closing down if this passes as is. Could you please e-mail me more about this legal appeal? how much money would you need all together? Willing to help out in anyway we can! I feel like I've had to stress through this entire Denver BS (which was sensible enough...i guess) just to have to stress out about the state. I'd like to know a little more of a plan of action for a legal appeal if this does happen to fall in our laps.
Thank You,
[email protected]

Well I can tell you, there are at least four dispensaries I'd be willing to support.:thumbsup:

Thanks you four. I'm just a poor schlep, However I'd still be willing to pitch in though. :D

I am still in the set up stages to be a caregiver. So I've invested every extra nickel I've had, for the last four months, into equipment. Once this passes (god forbid), I'll have to drop the whole thing.:mad:

Well, I'd be curious to know what's happening to some of my favorite places. It looks like D9 and GM will be gone unfortunately... what about some of the other guys on here?

Pure?
ReLeaf?
Others...

Considering moving the show to Missoula, Montana.. The MMJ movement just started up and if there is one thing I learned ab my time in college here, it's Montanans don't like government up in their business.. Things keep up it will be the last free place in the states.. Until big Cali $$ comes in and regulates it..

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Considering moving the show to Missoula, Montana.. The MMJ movement just started up and if there is one thing I learned ab my time in college here, it's Montanans don't like government up in their business.. Things keep up it will be the last free place in the states.. Until big Cali $$ comes in and regulates it..

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how hard is getting a card there tho? same plant count as here and everything or better??

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how hard is getting a card there tho? same plant count as here and everything or better??

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$25 for a card ($10 for renewal!!!!), about the same kinda reasons/difficulty, 6 plants and 1oz max as a patient. idk the caregiver end.

Montana is also the only state to accept out of state cards! :thumbsup:

Land got a bit spendy up there though.:(

Ain't no way you could get me to move to Montana! It's cold enough here! My south pacific islander ass can't handle the cold! hahaha!

If you look at the bill, they are using our $90 AGAINST the patients. "Auditors with guns", etc and we are paying for it. Romer snuck in several last minute additions that even got the CMMR lobbying dispensaries t'd off (apothecary, peace in medicine, etc.)

There is quite a bit of unconstitutionality in the bill, but someone will have to pay $ and time to test it.

Romer is going to run for mayor, and we must crush him. I have several videos where he basically says he is for us, but now he has fucked us. Which I will turn over to his opposition.

So, why pay the $90 fee? I have never had issues with finding product before this. We stop paying the fee and they stop being able to pay for auditors with guns and the like.

They are just fighting over the money; when it's gone then they will move on.

I don't like what Matt Brown has/is doing, and Vincente makes me nervous as well. I am not a big fan of Corry, but he may be the guy.

edit: I dont have a dispensary, but I am involved with Mile Hi MMJ Patient Magazine. If one of you had a story to tell about the whole situtation or a call to arms, we go to print next week for the next issue. It would be great to get it in. We hand out 10,000 copies to most dispensaries in the metro area, so it will get into the hand of patients. I don't think most of them have any idea of what is going on.

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If you look at the bill, they are using our $90 AGAINST the patients. "Auditors with guns", etc and we are paying for it. Romer snuck in several last minute additions that even got the CMMR lobbying dispensaries t'd off (apothecary, peace in medicine, etc.)

There is quite a bit of unconstitutionality in the bill, but someone will have to pay $ and time to test it.

Romer is going to run for mayor, and we must crush him. I have several videos where he basically says he is for us, but now he has fucked us. Which I will turn over to his opposition.

So, why pay the $90 fee? I have never had issues with finding product before this. We stop paying the fee and they stop being able to pay for auditors with guns and the like.

They are just fighting over the money; when it's gone then they will move on.

I don't like what Matt Brown has/is doing, and Vincente makes me nervous as well. I am not a big fan of Corry, but he may be the guy.

edit: I dont have a dispensary, but I am involved with Mile Hi MMJ Patient Magazine. If one of you had a story to tell about the whole situtation or a call to arms, we go to print next week for the next issue. It would be great to get it in. We hand out 10,000 copies to most dispensaries in the metro area, so it will get into the hand of patients. I don't think most of them have any idea of what is going on.

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I believe if we defeat Romer in whatever office he chooses to run for we will send a loud message. We have to publicly shame these people, I wonder if anyone would donate expertise in putting together a video to run on the net, and TV if we can buy the time.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I have a friend, and I only have a few of those, who has worked with the lead guy at NORML (not that it means anything) and has put together pro MJ stuff in Wyoming, which is like organizing a love rally in hell. Anyway, he is stupidly educated, motivated and pissed, and has an endless amount of energy. He would be PERFECT to be at the forefront of a group to fight this. And while he may not be an attorney, he understands the judicial process and is classically educated in such issues, it is his passion. He can be annoying as HELL with how persistent he can be. In other words, perfect if he's on your team.

One of our main problems is that we're fighting fire with hope, it's time for fire.

I don't have time to read this whole thread, and I need to save my energy at this point, BUT we NEED to put something together.

I read CO cards are honored in Montana and Rhode Island...not sure if true, but I did read this