Pepurr Pot

I thought I would make a picture chronicle of my grow because it is fun. :D Well, that is only part of it. One other big reason is, if any of you see something wrong, you can maybe tell me about it in time to avoid disaster.

These girls (I hope girls) are about 10 days old. I think the first days of their young life, they were not getting enough light. Also they were in back yard dirt. Now they are under better lighting and have what seems like good dirt to grow in. I can tell they are happier already. :thumbsup:

As they grow I'll keep posting pictures here.

Wish me luck. :hippy:

whats up Pepurr!!!
I will subscribe to this thread and check out your grow.
Good Luck

I'll be checking it out :jointsmile:

Isn't it going to be difficult to transplant with the shape of the blue container and the lip on the other?

Happy growing :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bigtopsfinn

I'll be checking it out :jointsmile:

Isn't it going to be difficult to transplant with the shape of the blue container and the lip on the other?

Happy growing :)

---

Oops! :silly: Didn't think of that. I am a metal smith so I can get the lips of the containers off. It would have been easyer to do it before hand though.

Thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup:

Aloha Pepurr

Might be a good idea to make some more drainage holes in the sides as well as the bottoms of those containers.
You will get better aeration for your roots.

Stagnant water will kill your kidz in a very short time.:(

Good luck.
Weezard

I got a couple holes in there. I am being very carefull about watering. The soil is moist now, but not wet. I am trying to keep it so that if I stick my finger in the dirt about an inch, my finger don't come up wet, but moist soil will stick to my finger a little.

I don't want them to get root rot. I just hate it when my root rots. :wtf:

I think you'd have an easier time with large cottage cheese containers since the top is bigger than the bottom. You could just cut the containers away when the time comes. Yes, you will need holes to for drainage.

"chili P's my trade mark yo"! (Jesse Pinkman, AKA Jesse Jackson, AKA Diesel)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

I think you'd have an easier time with large cottage cheese containers since the top is bigger than the bottom. You could just cut the containers away when the time comes. Yes, you will need holes to for drainage.

---

Cottage cheese? Gross, yuck, puke....I hate that nasty stuff! :gunfighter2: The containers sound good though. I have holes, had them from the start.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

"chili P's my trade mark yo"! (Jesse Pinkman, AKA Jesse Jackson, AKA Diesel)

---

I think "Pepurr Pot" will be my trade mark from now on. I am an artist, so now I got to use that to make a killer sign. :dance:

Hopefully this will help speed up my grow.

I had to do something about that light. When they were in that north facing window they only got a couple hours of sun a day. Because of that, I made a grow room in my closet. The lights I had were 2 CFL's.
One 15W 2700k, and a 23W 2700k. They were a couple I had around the house. I don't know the lumens, but I am guessing 600 to 800.

After looking at pictures of others grows here,and paying attention to when the pictures were posted, I thought mine should have developed more than they are. :(

So on the way back from the VA today, I stopped at Walmart and found a 2 pack CFL, 6500K 20W 1150 lumens, for only $7.00.

I sure hope this helps. I have read that 6500K are better for the veg. time, and 2700 are better for the bud time.

I am wondering something though. Would there be any thing bad about having both the 2700K and the 6500K going at the same time? For now I only have the 6500K in there. Maybe all them lumens added would be an advantage. I don't know. If it would be even better to have both, I'll have to get another fixture.

One thing I do like about them CFL's is, I can buy a couple at a time as they are needed. :thumbsup:

Here is an update on my humble grow.

They seem to be doing much better now. I have been giving them 24 hours a day of 6500K. They started going 24 hrs, 2 days ago.

The plant in the metal coffee can is doing the best. Seems to be growing twice as fast as the other. I can only guess as to why. Here is my guess:

1. Genetics
2. It was stressed less than the other during transplant.
3. One is male, the other female.

I sure hope they are both female. Hope in one hand and poop in the other, you know.

These came from a bunch of mixed seeds from bags I had bought in the past. I have no clue as to the strain. I recon they will have to grow more before that can be discerned.

...but if you want a higher chance of 'em both turning out female, I'd switch 'em immediately to 18on/6off (total darkness for that 6, btw)... the 'dark' time is necessary for root development (so I've heard), and less stress on the plant means less reason to 'turn male'... (also, so I've heard)...

If you want to give the lil' ones the max play period you can, without stressing 'em too much, you could go 20on/4off, which still gives 'em a nice little nap.

I'm a big believer in CFLs for nifty cheapie growing setups. They can be had /almost/ anywhere, are available in the middle of the night, and have a decent lumens-to-watts ratio (tho a good High Output T-5 will smoke 'em {I just bought a SunMaster T5HO 4', for 39.95 from my dear friends at Grown Hydro in downtown TO that puts out 5022lumens in/@ 6400k})...

Another nice thing about the CFL concept is that you can pack 'em in quite tight, or use cheapie things as decent reflectors. I've used everything from catering trays to large Stainless Steel mixing bowls, with good effect. I particularly recommend the SSmb concept, cuz if you /lightly/ scuff 'em, the net reflector result to the plant is like the plant being in a dentist's chair, only moreso ;) I've seen some of my seedlings with their fan leaves up at 45 to 60 degree angles, leaping to the light... :jumphappy:

The same way you see some growers using both MH and HPS at the same time throughout the same grow, or using dual-arc bulbs for the same effect...

...you could be doing with alla your humble CFLs... so, as long as you have all the 6500k near there, the 2700k will pad the spectrum, and your plants should be happier. Get the lights as close as you can to the lil' rascals, tho. CFLs' main selling point is that they run nearly cold, and so you can get 'em to within 1-4 inches of the plant(s). As long as you can put your hand 'there' all day (only feeling a little warm), your plants will be happy 'there'. Try and get your 'daytime' temp to around 78f, though they won't quibble if it goes up to 82-83 as long as there's a bit of airflow.

If you really wanna hammer 'em good in flowering time, pick up a six-pack of 26w/100w equiv. GE 2700k 1750lumen puppies [only 19.97 up here at my local W@llM4rt]*, and replace all bulbs (and pack as many more in as you can) with the 2700k warm white, for 12on/12off (and the 12off in flowering HAS to be uninterrupted! If you must look at your 'garden' in 'nighttime', use a green bulb so that they don't notice...)...

Hope this helps!

(c)C :chainsaw:

*I'm planning on doing this at bloom time myself, with 12x2700k/26w hung around the edges of my garden whilst my 600w HPS pounds 'em from just above. I figger the extra lumens 'round the corners won't hurt, and the power cost is only 312w for 21000 extra 'warm' /red/ lumensssszzzz... mmmmm... lumenss...aahrghahghahargahrahg.... :smokin:

All the bagseed grows I've seen have turned out really great. It's all in how you take care of your plants. I'll 2nd CovertCarpenter's recommendation for the HO T5's. I'm doing my whole grow with T5's and I'm very pleased with the results so far.

Thinks for all of your helpful advise guys. :thumbsup:

I sure would love to get all them High Output T-5's and stuff. Can't afford it though. Being disabled, I can barely afford the CFL's. Stupid SSD takes forever to kick in, so till then I got to make it on the super cheep. I'm looking around thrift stores now to find something for a couple $ to screw my CFL's into. I have an idea about that. :dance:

I'm looking for cheep table lamps. When I get them (cheep ones), I am going to take them apart. Then I can use the wires and fixtures, and throw out the rest. I will plug them into a power strip.

At this time the lil raskels are under 2 6500K CFL's. I got 2 2700K CFL's gathering dust because of a lack of anything to plug them into. I think I can get away with using only 2 bulbs for now, but in a short time they will have to have more. Lucky I can get the CFL's a few at a time, as I need them.

This can be an interesting (forced) experiment. To see how cheaply I can grow some dank bud. So far I have about $10 in it. $3 for potting soil and $7 for lights.

Through out this grow, I'll keep track of how much money I spend on it. Then when harvest time comes, we can check out how many dollars per ounce it is. :baggy: Hopefully dollars per ounce. It could turn out dollars per gram cause I don't even get a full ounce. Lord willing, that won't be the case.

I know I am not the only one who is short on cash. I'll take pic's of what I come up with 'doing it on the cheep'. :weedpoke:

Best of luck with getting your SSDI and hopefully a nice retroactive check.

Keep reading some of the other indoor grows here. Folks are doing wonderful, successful harvest with little more than what you've started with.

Shov

I went to the hardware store and found some nifty light sockets that can plug into an outlet. I bought 2 of them for $4.90.

I already had a power strip so I screwed some CFL's into the sockets, then plugged them into the power strip. I think the power strip can hold one more. All I need to do now is make a reflector and find that darn extension cord. I know it's around here somewhere.

If you look at the attached pictures you can see what it looks like. After it is all set up I'll post a picture of the results.

$15.00 into the 'grow it on the cheep'.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pepurr

I went to the hardware store and found some nifty light sockets that can plug into an outlet. I bought 2 of them for $4.90.

I already had a power strip so I screwed some CFL's into the sockets, then plugged them into the power strip. I think the power strip can hold one more. All I need to do now is make a reflector and find that darn extension cord. I know it's around here somewhere.

If you look at the attached pictures you can see what it looks like. After it is all set up I'll post a picture of the results.

$15.00 into the 'grow it on the cheep'.

---

Thats great, but you will need more and il give you a cheaper way of putting a great light tighter:thumbsup: with pis:D

At wally mart they have hook lights. Get 1 and make sure its the small, not the large one. They are 7.99, then 4 26w cfl's. Now, get 3 y splitters. The reflector on the hook light slides off, then you put a y splitter in. Then you put 1 y splitter in each of the sockets of the first splitter. This gives you a light with a lot of watts. I used 11 bulbs, with 3 lights using different light spectrum's, not counting the lamp i sit near them. And by cutting the end and a space in the middle of a beer can like a window will work as a shade that fits a cfl perfect. But anyway you will want 250watts to get buds you will like. But its cheap. y splitters are 4 bucks. light 8.00. 4 cfls are different prices, as i bought 2 bulbs for 7.99 that took a month, the next month i bought 2 more. After ya got one set-up it would be 7,000 lumen w/26watters
and 104watts. Its recommended to have 5,000 lumen's per sq ft for best results. I got all my stuff as i needed it, so it was little to start up. I even used the same kinda soil, which is not advised. Problem is that every water, activates the nutes, which can burn the plant. Just keep er on the dry side:thumbsup:Oh and dont add nutes, because thats what i noticed that everyone who used them had problems. I didn't use any, till now but im re vegging them to bonsai. Look at my 10 indoor grow in my sig and you will have cheap step by step and you can avoid my mistakes:jointsmile:

I had a cash issue so i bought stuff little at a time. I used 279wattts at the end. But it was a killer grow. I got better quality weed and the yield was great.

Here is a couple of pics, cuz after i read this im not sure its very clear, or too clear.lol I like to put them in small pots, cuz when the roots get stretched out, the top growth comes on. Then i re pot, bigger an bigger. But this is out side, im not sure why i didn't as much indoors.

Here is a cheap set up. If ya can white paint works better then tin foil, but when i started, i used it too. But i could tell the difference when i switched.

Il be back man, good luck :rasta:

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

I might be able to put together a cool set-up like that. I'll have to get the stuff little by little, but that is not a problem. Like I said before, I can get stuff as my raskels grow. Just hope I can keep up.

Keep the ideas coming though. I get all kinds of ideas from you guys, and it helps.

Hate being so cheep. I'm not used to it. I'm used to getting just about anything I want, when I want.
(:twocents: <====How much money I got.)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pepurr

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

I might be able to put together a cool set-up like that. I'll have to get the stuff little by little, but that is not a problem. Like I said before, I can get stuff as my raskels grow. Just hope I can keep up.

Keep the ideas coming though. I get all kinds of ideas from you guys, and it helps.

Hate being so cheep. I'm not used to it. I'm used to getting just about anything I want, when I want.
(:twocents: <====How much money I got.)

---

No, no i understand what your saying. Your doing just what i did and in the end, thats what i have. I was buying 2 cfl's a month till i had enough and you only need 2 to get your plant started. The next month i got the hook light for 8 bucks at wally world, with 3 y splitters for 5 bucks. So 13 bucks, now just add 4 cfl's and you got a killer light. You wont need them till next month, but just pick up a piece here an there. I did it the same way man, but now i dont pay for weed:hippy:

:rasta:

I bought a four lamp 4' T5 HO luminaire with lamps for $40 on ebay (new in the box). So, save your coins and keep your eyes open for a good deal.

Shov

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pepurr

That's a sweet set-up. I like the idea. Only problem is, for the hook light and the 3 'Y' splitters, we're talking $20.00. I'll maybe able to do it a little later.

If you read my other posts you will know, I don't have much money. Really, I am so poor, I can't even pay attention. So for me right now, $20 is a lot of money. I got to get equipment really, really cheep. I am scrounging what I can find around the house, and what I can borrow.

---

Hey pepurr,

Just figured I'd toss this out there. I got a few "Y" splitters just collecting dust. If you want 'em, they're yours. Rep me with a mailing address and I'll gladly post 'em out your way.

Thanks for the thought, EvilCartman.

A couple times you nice people have offered to help out by sending me this or that. It makes me feel good about my fellow human being. :thumbsup:

I have given considerable thought to the idea of sending my mailing address to people who wish to help me, and come to this policy concerning that. :sorry1:

Even though there are many good people out there in cyber land, there are a few bad apples. Given that, and the nature of what we are doing, I am going to have to decline. This is in no way a reflection on you or any individual member of this forum. It is merely a safety precaution. :tin foil hat:

Thanks for your kind offer. Hey! You're not so evil after all. :hippy:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pepurr

Thanks for the thought, EvilCartman.

I have given considerable thought to the idea of sending my mailing address to people who wish to help me, and come to this policy concerning that. :sorry1:

This is in no way a reflection on you or any individual member of this forum. It is merely a safety precaution. :tin foil hat:

---

Understood. :thumbsup:

BTW, the power strips with the plug-in sockets are a good way to pack in the bulbs tightly. I was able to cram 8 of the 26w CFLs into the 12"x12" area at the top of my "Boy Box" using that method, worked out quite well.

I wish you well! I'll be sitting in the corner, quietly paying attention. :)

Ya mon! Way to go wit' the CFL...

110 meter(metre)s per side, not 100 yards...
less guys per side...
3 downs insted'a 4...

WHOOPS! wrong one~!

/your/ CFL(s)etup /rocks/, mon!

lesse...
8x26w=208w, mice nuts :)
8x1600lum=12800, if ya do it right :D
great idea with the plugins, mon, even cheaper than what I just picked up @wally!

REP+

(c)C :chainsaw:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CovertCarpenter

lesse...
8x26w=208w, mice nuts :)
8x1600lum=12800, if ya do it right :D
great idea with the plugins, mon, even cheaper than what I just picked up @wally!

REP+

(c)C :chainsaw:

---

Man i was doing the math for one light, so 26x4-104
Also, the lights said 1750 lumen's for the 26 watt cfl, so 1750x4= 7,000

But cfl's lose lumen's as the light is not right on the plant. In the lighting section it says that cfl's are 69.9 lumens per watt:D

:rasta:

Hey all,

Was going to wait till Sunday to post pics, but figured, What the heck.

I made a grow box. It has two CFL's in it and a computer case fan. To power the fan, I am using the charger from my electric shaver. :D

That one plant that I was worried about got worse, then seemed to level out. There seems to still be life in it, so I will keep caring for it. :weedpoke:

I am happy with the progress made in 5 days by my best one. :greenthumb:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by pepurr

Hey all,

Was going to wait till Sunday to post pics, but figured, What the heck.

I made a grow box. It has two CFL's in it and a computer case fan. To power the fan, I am using the charger from my electric shaver. :D

That one plant that I was worried about got worse, then seemed to level out. There seems to still be life in it, so I will keep caring for it. :weedpoke:

I am happy with the progress made in 5 days by my best one. :greenthumb:

---

Nice set-up man:hippy:I have heard you can run those fans with an old phone charger. If you can get a fan like you have, you could have an intake and one that blows air, so perfect air flow. Because if you add 2 splitters and add cfl's, you could flower right in that box, but with more light.

Great set up:rasta:

It has been a while, and a lot has gone on. Mainly new equipment and more sprouts.

When My income tax return came in I bought 2 each, 2' fixtures, and 2 each, 2' 3500k, and 2 each, 2' 6500k floresent tubes. Now my plants are getting that plus the two 6500K CFL's I already had. It looks like the totel lumens are 7600.

When they get bigger I will add the other two 2700k CFL's I got. I think it will need more later. When I add the remaining two CFL's, I got about 10000 lumens. Enough for the grow till finish? You tell me. I got my doubts.

Also I took a bunch of my bag seeds and planted them. Seems it was a good thing to do because a couple of them are freaking so good.

If you look at picture (2nd row, 1st pic), you will see the ones that have grown best. They are 9 days old and have huge leaves (twice as big), compaired to any of the others.

The last pic is one about a month old. I think it was over-watered early on. The soil I used had that moisture control in it, and that made it hard for me to get used to it. The lil trooper keeps hanging in there any way, so I'll let it live as long as it don't turn out male.

Here is some updated pics for you, :hippy:

Lil more

Changed things around some. I think I have my lights set up for optamum use now. Picked out one of the ones thet were left to be transplanted and killed the rest. "Droopy" made the cut. Now it is "Droopy" and "Indica Maybe" remaining.

Droopy puzzles me. It gets water, but not to much. About the same as "Indica Maybe". I let the water come out the bottom of the pot, then I stop. It still likes to be droopy. It will be fun to see what happens in the next 4 or 5 weeks.

Here's some pics.

more

some more

more still

last ones

Here it is day 25 of the grow. I was going to wait till Tuesday to post pics because then they will be a full month old. There is a concern with one plant so I post early looking for input.

On the Indica Maybe, the lower leaves are getting discolored on the tips and edges that turns into dead areas. The first 2 baby leaves have completely died. Maybe that is normal due to its age. Look at the first pic and you will see the problem.

Droopy hasn't had this problem. Please don't tell me it looks like Droopy needs water. It gets the same as the other. I believe its droopiness is just a trait of that one plant. Droopy is the one I seen what looks like the start of flowering. Tiny little nubs, but they are in the right place. I'll know more later.

Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures. I am using my lap top camera.

more

and then

and then, and then

and then, and then, and then