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Obama 'Even Worse' Than Bush On Secret Wiretapping Case, Says S.F. Lawyer - San Francisco News - The Snitch
Where's all the white, college, trust-fund kiddies to protest this travesty of justice lol.
And Obama down 5 more points since the " GOP waterloo" LMAO
Obama's Approval Rating Hits New Low - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Massive Tea Party Protests nationwide April 15......and still growing.:pimp:
:S2::S2: Watch out, he may be tapping yours or watching your posts.
I'm shocked our President would do this, are you?
Everything from the right has to be reversed to get the true meaning. Yes, he may still be letting some of it continue, but most likely no where near the degree that Bush did. The right now exaggerates everything for propaganda effect for the sheep. I'm not worried. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
As I have stated before Obama is really just a Bush Jr. He has done nothing yet that proves he's liberal other than passing an unconstitutional universal healthcare bill. He's escalated the war and he is about to get us in even deeper, he has not repealed any of the homeland security or patriot acts so we're still being persecuted just like we were under Bush.
As a liberal he's almost a complete failure as a president he is a failure.
IDK...is "most likely" seen as a fact, or are your claims baseless and, in itself, propoganda? Let's see your proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
No need to exaggerate...his socialist leanings are hard and fast facts. The source of propoganda lies at his feet in the form of all the lies, deciet and slander of the American people.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
Obama has a problem with morals, but more importantly, he actually believes the country is clueless. We (the conservatives) are not the undereducated sheep being handed a plate of communism, and calling it freedom. But daily I see liberals in here that eat that shit up unquestioningly.
Did you realize social justice is as far from freedom as is incarceration...?
Wiretap away, Obama. Mao would be very proud of your accomplishments so far.
All Politicians have a problem with Morals. As soon as the power shifts to the next party there will be a few lunatics defending the new party in power and a million lunatics trashing the party in power, again.
exactly. it is a regular well controlled cycle. :twocents:Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
Surely it will take us somewhere!
Under Bush we couldn't even get to a point in the legal process where anyone could even prove they were wiretapped so I don't know how anybody could truely know how many each guy wiretapped. It was just the other day my hero Judge Vaughn Walker agreed the govt did indeed wiretap someone.
But considering Bush had 8 years and Obama is only in his 2nd, I'll bet all the money in my bank accounts Bush spied on us more.
Now, please note this is one of the things I voted Democrat to end and quite frankly I'm pissed. Spy away on me if you just get a warrant, it's really not that hard.
If your really worried I'd ditch your cell phone anytime you are doing something nefarious. The cops and others don't need any warrant to get your cell phone records and the GPS data tracking your every move.
Rusty, I'd didn't realize you were a teabagging militia member too like Islandborn? Disappointing as you seemed reasonable.
You asked for proof, so where is your proof of all the wiretaps Obama has done? Hint there is none and all this is just conjecture.
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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
it seems the conservative members of our little family are bound and determined to expose this administration as the hypocritical bastards they are and their liberal brethren are just as determined to defend their god emperor to the death. face it folks, the precedent for warrantless wiretaps was set in place under baby bush's watch, with the consent of a power hungry congress, and brak has merely continued to take advantage of the situation, proving he is no better than the previous scum. there is no up side to it.
Not too sure where you get your news, and I cetainly wouldn't go so far as to call you a left-wingnut as you've insinuated I'm a "tea-bagging militia member"...but I do strive for honest discourse regardless of titles others wish to label with. I'm a conservative, and proud of it. Common knowledge in these parts. :thumbsup:
Proof of Obama's wiretapping? No, no proof. Just news articles, Office of Legal Counsel memos, court cases...ya know...right-wing propoganda. ;)
GW Obama adopts Bush's views...
Obama's Executive Overreach (in case you trust the Huffington Post more than the WSJ)
So even those on the left-wing side are uneasy. Hmmm...Uneasy when a democrat is in the White House, yet deeply offended at the over-reaching invasion of civil rights when a republican is in office. :wtf:
I'm not defending Obama in this one, I'm just challenging the premise he has spied more in 2 years than Bush did in 8.
Troubled isn't my opinion, rather pissed off is my opinion more so because it is an obvious over-reach by both administrations.
You are correct, they are watching and taking notes from our social networking sites we use. Make no mistake you are being watched.Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
:D yeah, surely this will be the election year when things fall into place. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
I'm thinking of starting a t-shirt line featuring the phrase "yes we can":stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by boaz
how about one that merely says "we already did"Quote:
Originally Posted by RedLocks
Brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
Now Im a tea party member? Awsome! Never been to a gathering.....but I do LOVE guns and having lots of them....cause I can. I also LOVE letting my 6 year old shoot life size targets with rifles? Sooooooo, I guess Im in a militia too. Awsome......
Better hurry up and destroy the evil tea party...their eating ya'lls free sack lunches. And then they are gonna take away all the poor peoples money and end welfare cause they hate black people and unicorns with midgets on top. You guys sound like threats to national security attempting to incite violence nationwide.......lol.
**looks around for Shawn Hannity** :stoned:
hey now IB, cool your jets. we happen to love unicorns and watching them little fellers wrassle.
When the people fear the Government there can only be Tirany.
When the Government fears the people there can only be Freedom.
I smell fear. Let Freedom Ring.
From now on everytime I pick up the phone I'll answer " Obama is that you "
don't be surprised if someone replies, "no, but if you'll stay on the line i'll go get him.";)Quote:
Originally Posted by LOC NAR on probation
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Originally Posted by LOC NAR on probation
can you say martial law?
when people fear their government and distrtust the justice system, we no longer need them
Just the point!Quote:
Originally Posted by MEDEDCANNABIS
I love reading through threads such as this one that just has people going back and fourth with articles that they pull off the web and blah blah blah. You can find a news article to say whatever the hell you want or atleast I can.
All this crap came about over the health care bill or Obama entering office?
I love going to my wife family dinner on sundays and hearing about allllllll the bad things that obama does and what he is trying to do. Are people really that retarted? Apparently yes, we are all critics on something that we only know through news and media becuase I highly doubt anyone on these forums actually has ties to someone that really knows something, and I am not talking about CNN. Once again it doesn't matter who is president, If Mccain became president WE"D STILL BE FU*KED PEOPLE! Black people just would'nt have insurance according to some. This country will soon hit a railroad as soon as the people truly get fed up with the BS that the gov tells us. I wrote all this and don't even care about the subject matter. WHY care when there is no point? I think I'm done now until the next thread :hippy: