One Step Closer!!!!!!!!

Well folks I am now one step closer to turning in my application!!!!

I got my pain management doctor to fill out my application!!! I have an appt next week with PCM for the second signature and then I plan on turning it all in!!!

I was a bit nervous asking my doc about this. He was the one to recommend this to me back in January but I did not want to jeopardize our relationship.

The meeting couldn't have been farther from my imagination. I didn't even ask about it until he said "Are you ready to try cannabis?"...I replied "Why yes Doc...I already have my portion of the form filled out for you!" He chuckled and noticed that HIS form was the one before the autoimmune mediated arthritis condition was on it. I ended up giving him a blank copy (I kept "extras" in case I screwed them up....LOL).

I know from John Monad's radio show that the board was considering dropping the two person requirement for chronic pain. I believe they voted unanimously to do so, but this still requires Dr. Vigil's signature.

With that in mind, and with the help of JM, I will be heading up to Santa Fe next week to get my second signature and then turn in the entire package to the DOH.

THANKS JM FOR YOUR HELP!!!!!!

I will keep you all posted.....from what I can gather obtaining a rec from a pain specialist is a hard thing to do. Fortunately that was pretty damn easy for me. I think a blind man could see that I am in chronic pain....I am willing to bet 90% of the general public would be passed out/dead from the narcotics I have to take daily just to function.

With a little patience, I am hoping that I will be "part of the Card Carrying Club soon!"

Remember to check out John Monad's medical marijuana radio show too....!:thumbsup:

Sandia:)

Here's a great big grats to you. I sure do hope it goes through fast. I bet you do to. Then you may be able to leave the narcotics behind. Even if you have to use them a little, it must give you some peace of mind to know you have an alternative. :hippy:

That's great news Sandia. Glad to hear it! Pepurr is correct in having the peace of mind of an alternative. I haven't sent my app in but the choice is all that is keeping me sane,it's hard. Hear you on the meds too,most would be knocked out cold sleeping like a baby if they took my current regimen. I'm happy for you Sandia,thanks for bringing some good news to my,our day.:)

Thanks for the support Pepurr and Chance!

Glad to be finally heading down this road.

Chance, just a ??? for you.....why are you holding off from submitting your app? Just curious....for me, I was awaiting to gather my signature(s) and one of my doctors wanted to wait for some bloodwork to come in.

I'm glad you find it supportive Sandia,it is meant to in every way.

As far as me holding off I have other factors to consider. I have a young daughter and also a father who has always been staunchly opposed to the use of Cannabis. I love my dad and I don't want to have to make that decision.He of course has also told me that if it were legal it would be different but now that I could get it legally his attitude hasn't seemed to change. I can explain everything that I am going through to everyone else but my daughter,she is too young to understand but old enough to notice daddy smells funny. If I drank and smelled like booze it would be no problem of course but the total demonizing of Marijuana has made that impossible to explain. I don't want my girl smoking dirt weed in junior high or high school.Responsible use by responsible or ill adults is what I believe in. Not to mention the supply! I guess I figure what is the point if there is hardly ever any medicine.I'm going to have to give in soon whether I can hide the smell or not. I have PTSD as a result of a traumatic head injury and it seems to be getting worse fast. I really could go on and on but the main reason is that I don't want my girl to think that because I smoke that it is okay for her to as well.Legal or not you really can't explain these things to a 9yr old and have any success.I don't know how to anyway.

Sandia,

Hope things move quickly for you now.

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I'm glad you find it supportive Sandia,it is meant to in every way...........

I really could go on and on but the main reason is that I don't want my girl to think that because I smoke that it is okay for her to as well.Legal or not you really can't explain these things to a 9yr old and have any success.I don't know how to anyway.

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Chance....

I took your comments as VERY supportive and I TRULY appreciate you taking the time to offer your thoughts!

I am in a different situation as I do not have children. What you have stated, and how you stated it, really touched me. THANK you for sharing that openly. I respect you tremendously for doing so!

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Cool....things are moving along fairly smooth now. If the folks on the site had not helped me this whole process probably would be much more stressful!! Hope all is well with you!:)

Thats great news dude, hope it goes quickly for you.

I faxed in my APP about 18 days ago so I am watching for the mailman every day now!

My only concern is getting registered and getting meds before they run out again :)

anonymouse,

Did you send in your growing app as well? If not, I would recommend doing so...if for the only reason that you could produce your own during times of "no herb".

Think about it this way, there are FIVE producers and approximately 1500 patients in our state. These are rough numbers but are pretty close. That means that each producer, if divided evenly has to supply 300 patients.

That might not SEEEEEM like a huge obstacle, but NM Administrative Code stipulates that producers can only have 95 plants.

SOOOO....95 plants divided amongst 300 patients equals..... 0.32 plants per person. And that assumes that the patient load is distributed evenly across the state.

As many folks have stated before....THERE IS A PROBLEM right now with the number of producers in the state. I, for one, am glad that the state has regulation in this program, but geeeeze louise, they have to allow more producers in the state.

At the hearing in Santa Fe on the 30th, if you look at JMs medical marijuana radio show and listen to the tape, you will see that the board members stated that I believe that EVERY application for a non-profit producer was sent in to them INCOMPLETE.

I don't know about you guys, but do ya think that if you were trying to be one of the pioneers in this field within NM, you would take the time to make sure you met the requirements?????? I sure as hell do! So while some applications may have a slight issue.....I would SERIOUSLY doubt that they all do.


Anyhow that was a bit off topic but something I wanted to get off of my chest......It would be nice if the state moved a bit faster on this subject.

Again....write and talk to your legislators folks! :thumbsup:

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I'm glad you find it supportive Sandia,it is meant to in every way.

As far as me holding off I have other factors to consider. I have a young daughter and also a father who has always been staunchly opposed to the use of Cannabis. I love my dad and I don't want to have to make that decision.He of course has also told me that if it were legal it would be different but now that I could get it legally his attitude hasn't seemed to change. I can explain everything that I am going through to everyone else but my daughter,she is too young to understand but old enough to notice daddy smells funny. If I drank and smelled like booze it would be no problem of course but the total demonizing of Marijuana has made that impossible to explain. I don't want my girl smoking dirt weed in junior high or high school.Responsible use by responsible or ill adults is what I believe in. Not to mention the supply! I guess I figure what is the point if there is hardly ever any medicine.I'm going to have to give in soon whether I can hide the smell or not. I have PTSD as a result of a traumatic head injury and it seems to be getting worse fast. I really could go on and on but the main reason is that I don't want my girl to think that because I smoke that it is okay for her to as well.Legal or not you really can't explain these things to a 9yr old and have any success.I don't know how to anyway.

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Chance--

I have a daughter (she's now 13) -- when she was 10, she walked in on me smoking -- i just told her what it was and why I did it (for my chronic pain and bipolar) she took it very much in stride. I also have her watch shows/movies that mislead kids about what MJ can do to them and what MJ can do for people medicinally. She saw for herself that *I* do not act the way these shows try to portray people on MJ and she also saw first-hand people with parkinsons, MS, etc and how they are instantly helped by smoking.

If you hide it from your daughter, she will think something is bad with it, if you explain that it is a plant that helps relieve your ills and without it you can't be the best dad because of your particular condition, she will understand it.

Also, explaining that MJ is a medicine for you and not something you 'just do' and that while it is used for recreational purposes, your use is for medicinal purposes, and that you expect that she respect that, just as with 'drinking' or smoking cigarettes, these are 'adult' decisions. Kids can understand a lot more than parents give them credit for.

As for your father, it is not his life and you should not let him sway your decision on using the best medicine for yourself. You are an adult and are prepared to accept the consequences of your own actions.

I wish you the best of luck in your decision and hope all works out for you.

Sandia,Karma...Thank You!

Karma I really appreciate you sharing that. I was pondering whether I should start a thread and flat out ask if anyone was or had been in the same situation. What you say on keeping it secret makes a lot of sense to me. It reminds me of my guns,wait for it...When I got them I broke them down and thoroughly cleaned them and when I was done I brought my daughter in and said here it is,hold it,touch it now when I'm here,it is a gun,nothing special. I of course don't want her having the curiosity that ends up killing so many kids every day in this country. I keep the shells in a separate place and I have the bolt on the Mauser out still.

I would damn near shoot myself if I found out she was smoking Cannabis in middle school because of me. My wife has also said that we just have to educate her on why I use it. When she turns 21 I would smoke w/ her,at least she wouldn't be puffing dirt weed with who knows what kind of snake oil in it. She is almost 10 and I just feel she is going to be hell on wheels when she is 13! I also know that I hate it when she catches me taking pills(damn I hate that word!!). She senses something is wrong w/ me and I HAVE to get a hold of it and be more "normal".

Again Thank You for sharing. I'm certainly all ears for more suggestions:)

Oh yeah my Dad works in corrections and has been brainwashed so much over the last 20yrs.It has caused so much grief between us.He was in one of my accidents that contributed to my PTSD and he caused a lot of pain when I was a kid but I love him,he's my dad. We actually just started talking again after another 2 yr hiatus and he admits to a lot of the things that caused us to fight and he realizes that he too got smacked in the head and isn't himself.
We used to go at it with fists,rocks,whatever. Mostly it was me defending myself and damn I could have killed him at times. I was so weak,never fought back with objects and I could never live knowing that I killed my dad,regardless. Everything happens for a reason and it looks like we will now have a loving relationship.All he had to do was say he was wrong and he has.

Karma, I think you said that better than anyone could. I have a 5 year old son and I honestly couldnt agree with you more. If you shelter them, they will rebel. As long as you keep an honest an open mind, its all gonna turn out ok. Good luck in your decision Chance, and good luck to you Sandia. I hope you both get to medicate soon!

Hey Fire,good to see you on. I don't want to shelter her as much as I was but it seems like such a high wire act to me and dang I'd be crushed to say the least if I did it wrong.

I sure as heck rebelled or so I thought.I think a lot of it was just self medicating. It's a fine line but one I'm going to have to walk. My,our,quality of life is non-existent about now. I have faith and I will keep my chin up,if not for myself for my family.

Thanks for your input Firestaata!!:thumbsup:

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I don't know about you guys, but do ya think that if you were trying to be one of the pioneers in this field within NM, you would take the time to make sure you met the requirements?????? I sure as hell do! So while some applications may have a slight issue.....I would SERIOUSLY doubt that they all do.


I don't mean to interrupt, but from what I understand people are having a difficult time with the application process because the MCP is so new that the state doesn't even know exactly what they require. It's hard for the applicants to provide info when the state is learning from the applicants. That's what I gather from the problems my buddy is having with his app. Seems to be a learning experience for all involved. Just thought I'd shime a light ,albeit a dim one, on the application problems. Hopefully Dr. Vigil gets things moving since the patient/producer ratio isn't matching their guideline on that.

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Chance....

I took your comments as VERY supportive and I TRULY appreciate you taking the time to offer your thoughts!

I am in a different situation as I do not have children. What you have stated, and how you stated it, really touched me. THANK you for sharing that openly. I respect you tremendously for doing so!

:)

Cool....things are moving along fairly smooth now. If the folks on the site had not helped me this whole process probably would be much more stressful!! Hope all is well with you!:)

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I'm here to help,what ever I can do.

Thanks everyone!

Cool I zapped you an email last week but no response....take a look in your inbox and see if it made it!

My daughter and I had a talk today. It wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be. She does excellent in school and she realizes that a scholarship is in reality the only way she will go to college.

I advocate young people smoking Cannabis as much as I do them drinking. She really seemed to grasp the whole developing brain approach.

Thanks again for the input. This is so huge and I have to go natural real soon and I really appreciate it!

Hell yeah, congrats Chance. Times are a changing :thumbsup: I was raised with the "not till your 21" approach and my brothers and I all turned out allright. At least none of us are in jail or anything you know? An open mind can change the world :stoned:

Thanks Fire. I turned out okay as far as being in trouble with the law. Yeah I got popped for possession once(greens) and once for illegal trespass(goin back for another beer!). I had my first drink @ 16 but it never was my thing at that age,I preferred Mary but only got really "stoned":jointsmile: until I was a senior in HS. My self medicating didn't start in force until I was 20,full force! I say g-damn the pusher man!

Been fishin? I didn't go up due to the damn wind but I'm itchin to run into some Whites or dare I say Stripers! Damn I love hookin onto them Stripers. My pop's is goin to Mexico @ the end of the month.Any idea on how long it takes to get a US id? I've had 2 passports but I don't know if that would matter or if the id's even have to go to Houston for issuance. Damn it I got the fever man,those Large Mouths hit hard and so so often down there.

MONSTER cats too! We set a trot line w/ ocean hooks and leaders and I shit you not that was the first time I've seen a hook that big bent damn near straight. First Blue Cats I've ever seen. I know that lake has some 100#ers in it,easy.

Off topic,happens when I talk about fishin!

Thanks for the input as always.:thumbsup:

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Thanks everyone!

Cool I zapped you an email last week but no response....take a look in your inbox and see if it made it!

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If you didn't get a reply,I probably didn't get it.

Thanks to everyone for the support!

JM.....You are one truly caring and giving person and I owe my success in obtaining my card to you my friend!:)

I turned in my application on the 19th of April and my card came in the mail today! The card was not really what I expected as in it looks very simple and basic. It also appears as though the machine used to make the cards is running a bit short on ink....LOL......

Again big thanks to JM for all the help and compassion!!!!!:) I also want to thank you all for your support and good Karma sent my way, I am positive it helped!:)

Really glad to hear it boss.

About the card...I wonder if Prison Industries makes them.NM is awesome at utilizing the resource!

Congrats Bud.

Sandia,
Thanks for the kind words. It was my pleasure.

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Sandia,
Thanks for the kind words. It was my pleasure.

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Anytime JM!!!! You deserve a TON of credit!!!!!

Congrats to Sandia.


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