MOTHERLOAD!

ohh man.. so im a medical patient here in socal and i grown a couple plants a year from bagseed outside normally and while i was in my favorite dispensery VALLEY PATIENTS:thumbsup: i was gettin some meds and i see this AMAZING GIMORMO mother plant sitting there looking at me.... this thing is about 4.5' and the stalk is like 1.5'' so 80bucks later and now big momma is mine lol... i would like to either put it in the ground or in a trash can so i can take it in when it gets too big or to force it to flower... he said use fox soil but idk.. i would greatly appreciate any opinion or word of wise and just curious if i bury this thing halfway up the stalk wil the stalk take root also because the stalk is freakin tall and i figure better root ball to maybe? btw pics a lil later today:hippy:

anyone? i gotta do somethin fast cuz its still in the rockwool cubes.. its a blue dream mother.. i think its a sativa..

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Originally Posted by nugrowr

anyone? i gotta do somethin fast cuz its still in the rockwool cubes.. its a blue dream mother.. i think its a sativa..

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Yo dude, go to your hydro shop and ask for Sunshine mix 4. I prefer that better than FoxFarm. Also just leave her outdoors, if your a med patient you have nothing to worry about, bring it inside to force flower into a dark room, return her outside 12 hours later. Put her in a rubbermaid, not a garbage can :). Good luck

yeh its goin outside for sure... i only got a 400 wat hps which wont be enough for this one... its huge... im goin for the soil now ill post a pic once its all done thanks.. :hippy:

OK SO... i picked up some things and decided id do this last night before the gym... dont bag on me or whatever for my soil because the hydro store is freakin expensive and i didnt feel like spending 75bucks just to fill this thing with some dirt... the total tab was like 36bucks at lowes so i think i did ok.. welll... pics....

thats a 32gal trash kan i cut the holes in the side on the bottom for drainage. the date on the top small cube is dated july3 lol this ones been alive a while now she is gonna veg again soon :thumbsup:. i just mixed the soils by hand in the kan and planted it in there and cut the holes outside. i hope its alright that i burried like 10'' or so of stick... i appreciate comments and advice!!:hippy:

Totaly fine to put a chunk of that stem under the soil. I would actually suggest just the for your girl. Since she's already a mother why don't you take acouple clones off of her and then just put her to flower? I've realized with my girls that the lower buds get so little light I shouldve just cloned the heck out of the lower branches and then put her into flower. Blue dream looks amazing, it may even be my next canidate depending on how this log looks in another thread. The soil you purchased I'm not going to hate on because it can really get the job done. However I will jus throw the heads up at ya that sometimes the moiture controls and things of that nature make things kinda just pop up outta no where because you can't control when some things are being released. Ofcoarse this is not your first grow so you should have it all figured out. Keep a ph pen handy when using the MG.

If you're gonna use moisture retaining soil, I'd un-plant that baby into something smaller, like immediately. You are going to water that thing once, it's gonna weigh 120 lbs or more, and the water is going to lose its O2 (and your plant will drown in soggy soil) before it needs watering again. The roots can't get to all that water in their current form.

Fungus gnats will love that environment, too.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner. HTH, Hermie

I think a 400W HPS will handle that plant, as it looks at this point.

nice lighter!

ok so i messed up? dang man... i dont think ive ever used anything else to grow other than mg with moisture control. but i guess i could understand how that could work. as of right now it will take a day or two to dry out this soil so that is in fact a possibility however during the summer its gonna get pretty hot out here in so cal desert. i just figured it would be cool from past experience. i actually think it might try and flower a bit before the days start getting longer for a few weeks or so but i think it will kick into veg just fine soon if this happens. and i think i will in fact take a few clones after this thing starts picking up the pace

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ok so i messed up? dang man... i dont think ive ever used anything else to grow other than mg with moisture control. but i guess i could understand how that could work. as of right now it will take a day or two to dry out this soil so that is in fact a possibility however during the summer its gonna get pretty hot out here in so cal desert. i just figured it would be cool from past experience. i actually think it might try and flower a bit before the days start getting longer for a few weeks or so but i think it will kick into veg just fine soon if this happens. and i think i will in fact take a few clones after this thing starts picking up the pace

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hey man if it works good for you without any major problems i would not worrie about it stick with what works tha best for ya

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Originally Posted by DreadedHermie

If you're gonna use moisture retaining soil, I'd un-plant that baby into something smaller, like immediately. You are going to water that thing once, it's gonna weigh 120 lbs or more, and the water is going to lose its O2 (and your plant will drown in soggy soil) before it needs watering again. The roots can't get to all that water in their current form.

Fungus gnats will love that environment, too.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner. HTH, Hermie

I think a 400W HPS will handle that plant, as it looks at this point.

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More than 120Lb, way more!. 5 gallon buckets weigh almost 100lb when watered thoroughly. I strained my back carrying those things last Fall...lol!.

water retention soil is a big no no.

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Originally Posted by DreadedHermie

If you're gonna use moisture retaining soil, I'd un-plant that baby into something smaller, like immediately. You are going to water that thing once, it's gonna weigh 120 lbs or more, and the water is going to lose its O2 (and your plant will drown in soggy soil) before it needs watering again. The roots can't get to all that water in their current form.

Fungus gnats will love that environment, too.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner. HTH, Hermie

I think a 400W HPS will handle that plant, as it looks at this point.

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Hermie is so right man about the roots not growing, or rotting. This will stop all the top growth with small yield if any. A 5 gallon or smaller, then keep re potting to get the roots grown big enough for your big trash can. But in the trash can i might mix your soil with some gravel to give it drainage so air gets to your roots. I grew a giant male:( in a 5 gallon this way and it was huge. It might be more work but you will get more top growth with more yield in the end. They luv getting re potted. IMO they grow faster also.

And Hermie knows what he's doing for sure:thumbsup:

My 2 cents, good luck:rasta:

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Hermie is so right man about the roots not growing, or rotting. This will stop all the top growth with small yield if any. A 5 gallon or smaller, then keep re potting to get the roots grown big enough for your big trash can. But in the trash can i might mix your soil with some gravel to give it drainage so air gets to your roots. I grew a giant male:( in a 5 gallon this way and it was huge. It might be more work but you will get more top growth with more yield in the end. They luv getting re potted. IMO they grow faster also.

And Hermie knows what he's doing for sure:thumbsup:

My 2 cents, good luck:rasta:

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Keep in mind, this guy is growing in the desert of Southern CA. from I what I recall by his postings. That is probably why he went hog wild on moisture retention. Under normal rainfall conditions in the Mid-West, you still have to water a 5 gal. bucket on a weekly basis.

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5 gallon buckets weigh almost 100lb when watered thoroughly.

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:wtf:

What you watering with..Deuterium? My water weighs ~8 lb/gallon. :D

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Originally Posted by DreadedHermie

:wtf:

What you watering with..Deuterium? My water weighs ~8 lb/gallon. :D

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I'm not too far off, I just threw one on a scale. It was watered 3 days ago and weighs 60lb. Keeping in mind this plant is only 8 weeks old, at full maturity when freshly watered will weigh close to 100 lb.

You must have acouple bricks on the bottom of the bucket:D Do you have that good of ventilation that you can wet the girls that much and not promote any type of root rot or red stems or anything?

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Originally Posted by sunbiz1

Keep in mind, this guy is growing in the desert of Southern CA. from I what I recall by his postings. That is probably why he went hog wild on moisture retention. Under normal rainfall conditions in the Mid-West, you still have to water a 5 gal. bucket on a weekly basis.

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Well of course it would need watered on a weekly basis. When did i say anything about watering. I said some small gravel will help with drainage. But like Hermie said, the roots will get no air and could rot easy. Its just a lot of soil with out a bunch of roots. So he's going to water and never know if its used by the plant, which will create pockets of wet mud that will smother her. Its much better to start off in a smaller pot to build enough roots to fit the big trash can. If when its watered, the water goes all the way to the bottom. Thats one big pot. lol Not that it couldnt work, all im saying is the roots need built up to fit down in it to allow air in so yield is max. Iv never re potted a plant that didnt take off after.

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alright so its been a while but heres the update. i didnt like the way she looked after a few days so i decided to do it ol country style and i dug a hole. i dug this hole about 4' deep and 3' wide. i then filled this hole with my potting mix while mixing in dirt about half and half... after looking at the rockwool cubes i realized the roots were deep inside so i cut it up to the roots where i could see em then i just planted it.. the holes big enough for all my soil and an equal amount of dirt which is kinda rocky sandy so i think it might help my soil a bit. im in the high desert in california so it gets pretty hot and it should be able to dry out quite a bit during the summer i just need more sunny days because after i planted her it rained for 2 days straight and she stayed out there takin hell and she still survives.. its been all week about 80 or so and i see a small bit of new growth on the bottom but is slow i think the days are still kinda short so its trippen her out a bit. its been about 13 hours or so in my neck of the woods. plus the giant mountain to block the sun. i hope she makes it because its gonna rain again by monday i might just make her a clear cover of some sort. i think she will make it shes pretty tough if i make it to the heat she will do just fine i know it. i just started a little early i think.. pics...

kinda burnt a little on the top but looks like new green on the bottom... wish i speed her up...

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Originally Posted by nugrowr

kinda burnt a little on the top but looks like new green on the bottom... wish i speed her up...

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She looks great man:thumbsup:just feed it some veg nutes and it will be huge.

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well it rained yesterday and shes still alive i guess. theres miricle grow soil in there too so i shouldnt need to fert yet i dont think. i just wanna see some new growth. i think the photoperiod is stressing her out alot along with the weather and all.. i think if i get a good hot week she will come back to health maybe. she still looks the same really not dying but not growing. its my first experience with these rockwool cubes as im a good ol country guy so i hope the roots can really take hold. you think the cubes could cause a prob under the dirt? this is really an experiment for me so anyone who knows or has an opinion can you maybe give me some advice to help me perk her up a bit? is it the soil ph maybe? idk with how this thing was grown before can they get "picky" being hydro and all?:hippy:

so i went out there today to check her after giving her a full dose of schultz all purpose yesterday and she looks good:) she really seems to be perking up finally. we got a good few sunny days so i took some time to make her a bit more tidy with the border.. dont want grass growin on her right? i been thinking to snip a few of those brown leaves off too what you guys think? also maybe ill take some clones i just want her to be a bit healthier first. heres todays pics...

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Originally Posted by nugrowr

so i went out there today to check her after giving her a full dose of schultz all purpose yesterday and she looks good:) she really seems to be perking up finally. we got a good few sunny days so i took some time to make her a bit more tidy with the border.. dont want grass growin on her right? i been thinking to snip a few of those brown leaves off too what you guys think? also maybe ill take some clones i just want her to be a bit healthier first. heres todays pics...

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She looks a LOT better than your first pics, good luck.

We're in the midst of an early drought,

Water is very heavy to transport, my back hurts...lol!.

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Originally Posted by nugrowr

so i went out there today to check her after giving her a full dose of schultz all purpose yesterday and she looks good:) she really seems to be perking up finally. we got a good few sunny days so i took some time to make her a bit more tidy with the border.. dont want grass growin on her right? i been thinking to snip a few of those brown leaves off too what you guys think? also maybe ill take some clones i just want her to be a bit healthier first. heres todays pics...

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she looks nice man i would def take some clones later then you will have all females :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by nugrowr

so i went out there today to check her after giving her a full dose of schultz all purpose yesterday and she looks good:) she really seems to be perking up finally. we got a good few sunny days so i took some time to make her a bit more tidy with the border.. dont want grass growin on her right? i been thinking to snip a few of those brown leaves off too what you guys think? also maybe ill take some clones i just want her to be a bit healthier first. heres todays pics...

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if they're reali brown and dead and they pull of really easy i would snip them off to make room for new growth but if there just tinged brown and they dnt pull off easy give them a chance maybe a few days to regain health:thumbsup::jointsmile:

I wouldn't pull anything off till ya need a ladder to reach it:hippy:. That thing will start to root real well, because you put it in deep and dug up a pretty good area. By clearing all the grass away was good to keep it away from the nutes, so your plant will have no competition for it. Just let it grow man. If a dead leaf is on it the wind will take it. Plus if its dead, its not doing anything, but if theres life in it, then it will feed your plant. The more leaves outside the better so they catch all that nice sunshine which gives you giant buds.

You might think about fim to get more top's. I got 7 top's and that was by seed, you have a lot to work with there. You could make that plant giant. It looks great and in 4 months from now its going to be huge:hippy:This is just what Fim did for me last year and it was easy. That pant would grow into a giant tree man:cool:

Keep er Green man:weedpoke::rasta:

that plant is beautiful man.. i will probrably do someting of the nature when i see that shes doin 100%.. shes got idk how many tops and branches already and she has them growing all weird directions from where shes been cut for the last year.. i also got some little ones that ill probrably fim.. i got this one i been waiting for the right time.. its got its first 2 real sets of 5.. its in my other thread.. myBAGSEEDLINGS.. maybe you can help me decide when to do it:)

lol^^^:stoned:

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

I wouldn't pull anything off till ya need a ladder to reach it:hippy:. That thing will start to root real well, because you put it in deep and dug up a pretty good area. By clearing all the grass away was good to keep it away from the nutes, so your plant will have no competition for it. Just let it grow man. If a dead leaf is on it the wind will take it. Plus if its dead, its not doing anything, but if theres life in it, then it will feed your plant. The more leaves outside the better so they catch all that nice sunshine which gives you giant buds.

You might think about fim to get more top's. I got 7 top's and that was by seed, you have a lot to work with there. You could make that plant giant. It looks great and in 4 months from now its going to be huge:hippy:This is just what Fim did for me last year and it was easy. That pant would grow into a giant tree man:cool:

Keep er Green man:weedpoke::rasta:

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looks like shes flowering or started to at least i went out to check and shes got calyxs and hairs everywhere and really got this knot in the middle.. my freakin camera battery is messed up:mad: most all brown is gone tho....

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Originally Posted by nugrowr

looks like shes flowering or started to at least i went out to check and shes got calyxs and hairs everywhere and really got this knot in the middle.. my freakin camera battery is messed up:mad: most all brown is gone tho....

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Its great to hear that things are going well man:hippy: I will be starting my thread here soon, so you can post in my thread too. I liked what the fim did for me, so i guess i pitch it to people, but not the big one, my bad. Id just let her grow man. Its going to be nice and im pumped to watch her too. But as far as fimming, i do it at about 3rd or 4th node. In that pic i posted was fimed at the 3rd node. You can read it in my sig, but its pretty long, '09 outdoor grow. Just skip through and you will see what the fim does, i luved it:thumbsup:

Peace man and keep er green :weedpoke::rasta:

damnn that girl is a beast

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Its great to hear that things are going well man:hippy: I will be starting my thread here soon, so you can post in my thread too. I liked what the fim did for me, so i guess i pitch it to people, but not the big one, my bad. Id just let her grow man. Its going to be nice and im pumped to watch her too. But as far as fimming, i do it at about 3rd or 4th node. In that pic i posted was fimed at the 3rd node. You can read it in my sig, but its pretty long, '09 outdoor grow. Just skip through and you will see what the fim does, i luved it:thumbsup:

Peace man and keep er green :weedpoke::rasta:

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yeh this week the days are starting to lengthen out just right to trig her to do some veg so i hope to get a tree this year.. and on that one.. i had this one sprouter its about idk 10'' maybe and i was gonna fim it this week but i think it just showed balls... idk maybe just my eyes but i could swear.. i think ill put my sprouters out early every year from now on because the light is good to make them sprout and i cought it just right i think to show the sex before the veg season.. i will forsure fim the one and might do some tying.. seen a plant look amazing bent like a horse shoe.. i think i might bend one over this year... oh an lookin foward to your log also GREEN ALWAYS!:rastasmoke:

shes lookin good guys! small pre flowers hopefully soon to be gone.. once she is nice and vegie ill make a few babies i suppose.. heres the pics! :jointsmile:

she looks great man letting them start to flower and then go back into veg can effect your yeild

shes looking much better man:thumbsup::jointsmile:

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she looks great man letting them start to flower and then go back into veg can effect your yeild

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How can this have any effect on his yield, growing outside this early in the season. I dont believe it will hurt yield at all. Can you explain how it would hurt yield?

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

How can this have any effect on his yield, growing outside this early in the season. I dont believe it will hurt yield at all. Can you explain how it would hurt yield?

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well if it starts flowering for a couple weeks and then tha days get longer and its forced back into veg im not sure if it would have a big effect on the yield but i read someone on here that it would effect it in some way :jointsmile::jointsmile:

yield smeeld i just want my moneys worth on it... the way i see it i spent bout $130 to got her where she is and to me that would be like... 11 grams of some primo... anything after that is just free medicine for me to use :) although i do got a good feelin bout this:thumbsup: