Day 46 pics... am I on track?

OK, here's just a few pics.

I've had some major problems including spider mites, fungus gnats, and root aphids. The spider mites were easy to wipe out, but I think the root aphids have irreversibly damaged my plants. They started to yellow very early.... one Mr Nice was entirely yellow by day 25 and had to be killed. I know my yield will be impacted, but I think the smoke will be great!! I think I may have enough to not need to buy anymore from dispensaries until next harvest, whereupon I expect dramatically increase yields due to my new awareness of root aphids.

Anyway, these are day 46. How does the level of yellowing look to you? I'm wondering how much is due to late flowering yellowing and how much is due to root damage. I know it's hard to tell under the HPS... kinda pointless I guess.

Also, how do these look for you in regards to bud size? Am I on track or does it look like they're stunted from root damage? Most of these are 65-75 day strains except the LA Confidential (55-60 day), which I plan on taking in exactly 2 weeks.

Pics coming momentarily...

OK, here's a couple pics of my yellowing. These are sour diesels (70-75 day) and Mr Nice (70 days) and they're almost entirely yellow now at day 46. The small sugar leaves still appear to be green, but it looks like on Mr Nice even the sugar leaves may be slightly yellowing.... the Mr Nice was definitely affected by root aphids, but not sure on the sour diesels. I think they were as one has slowed down significantly on the amount of water it needs.

OK, so this one is closest to harvest. It's on day 46 and I plan on taking her at day 56-60. So, only 10-14 more days. What do you think?

I keep waiting for the calyxes to swell, but they just don't seem to be growing much. This LAC was definitely affected by root aphids. It started yellowing early and now it's slowed WAY DOWN on drinking. I watered 7 days ago and it's still not dry as usual!!

Here's some quick snaps of the Purple Kush cola and the Headband cola....

Both of these plants seem to be fairly healthy and weren't hit that hard by the root aphids. Let's hope my treatments worked on the aphids!!!

Any feedback is welcome, but I'd really appreciate feedback from experience growers who can comment on bud development..... does this look like good development for day 46?

This has been a rollercoaster ride for sure!!

they look just fine. be careful of cutting them too soon though. always keep in mind that the majority of your end weight comes in the last 2 weeks of flowering. it looks like most of your pistils have turned red so pay attention to your resin color. do you have a magnifying glass to get a good close look at them? you want them to be milky in color. if they look amber the thc level has hit its peak and will be losing its potency soon.

Thanks! That's encouraging to hear. I just checked the trichs the other day, but it's just REALLY hard to do with a pocket microscope!! I need to order a 30x loupe off of Amazon right away!! They have 'em for like $2-3, whereas they're $15 at the hydro shop nearby. Anyway what I could see was all clear still. I like REALLY stoney so hopefully at least 20% amber!

Oops, that second cola in post #4 is actually Mr Nice...

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Originally Posted by lampost

Thanks! That's encouraging to hear. I just checked the trichs the other day, but it's just REALLY hard to do with a pocket microscope!! I need to order a 30x loupe off of Amazon right away!! They have 'em for like $2-3, whereas they're $15 at the hydro shop nearby. Anyway what I could see was all clear still. I like REALLY stoney so hopefully at least 20% amber!

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i got a 30x loupe for $3 on amazon...it's a great deal!

I wouldn't worry too much about your babies....they look great! A little yellow in the leaves, but your buds look tasty! let us know how it turns out! :jointsmile:

if you're down with the stoney i'ld shoot for 50%-60%.

Sweet, thanks!

I fucked up tonight and forget to close the curtain. The HIDs went out but they were exposed to indirect incandescents for 20 minutes into their dark cycle!!! I'm so pissed at myself for this! I hope they don't hermie on me!!

I'm wondering whether I should give them 12 hours of darkness and postpone the schedule by 20 minutes. Or just keep them on the regular schedule and they only get 11hrs 40mins of darkness tonight. What do you think?!

just let your dark cycle last an extra 20 minutes tonight. you'll be fine.

Thanks! I'm going to give that a try!

OK well I just kept them on the same cycle. Since they got 20 mins of indirect incandescent I figured it wasn't that big of a deal.

I'll keep peeled for hermies though and definitely update.

Considering your prior bug and ph problems, I think they look great. Maybe a couple more weeks to go... Next time will be even better :jointsmile:

i agree. the longer you can keep a strain the better you get to know it the and the better it will produce for you. good luck.

lol wow mate, dats well bad wif the root aphids and that. was the root aphids bad? never had them yet, ur babys look nice though,

Looking pretty good. The bug problem might well have delayed harvest date. (you should likely add on the healing time to final harvest date)
What nutrients and additives are you using? Any bulking agents, CalMag, or molasses...? Have you used anything to re-green the leaves?

Pistils are never an indication of plant maturity. Trichomes and prior strain experience are the best (only) guide. A 5x magnifying glass is the weakest I can use to check trichome progress. Once I figured-out what I was looking for, I haven't used my 100x Radio Shack pocket microscope.

The pot not drying-out is a problem. More perlite next time and perhaps some holes in the sides of the pot. If not allowed to dry between waterings, root rot is a definate possibility, and the extra humidity isn't welcome in flower, either. (potential for bud mold)

They look pretty good considering the onslaught. Way to go!:thumbsup:

I've been watching trichomes very close on mine the last few days. Beings I can't read up on my unknown strain. Where as with you,.. Look up the normal times on those strains to see when the normally finish. However, as Rusty said, the bugs could delay you a bit so you'll have to watch for that color shift.

I hit 6 weeks today, So still a bit behind you (Imagine that! :D). Plus thanks to you I took pre-precautions for the flying bugs (I don't HAVE to get everything you do!:S2:)

Your girls look beat, but surviving and still producing. Which is far more then many have been able to claim after your lousy guests. So be proud and continue the diligent fight. Give them that last bit of time, and watch those trichs.

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Originally Posted by lampost

Thanks! That's encouraging to hear. I just checked the trichs the other day, but it's just REALLY hard to do with a pocket microscope!! I need to order a 30x loupe off of Amazon right away!! They have 'em for like $2-3, whereas they're $15 at the hydro shop nearby. Anyway what I could see was all clear still. I like REALLY stoney so hopefully at least 20% amber!

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Hi Lampost - I am curious, did you ever order that loupe? I ordered one that the ad said it was 30X but when I got it it turned out to be only 20X.. since it was so cheap I kept it (it works fine) but buyer beware on those chinese-made loupes.

Also, my purple kush strain looks a lot different than yours - did you get your clone locally? Now, if you tell me you grew it from seed, then I will know better :)

(Sorry for all the questions!)

We seem to be on kind of the same schedule and in the same area .... I have my 2nd grow in 3rd week of flower and looking good so far

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Hi Lampost - I am curious, did you ever order that loupe? I ordered one that the ad said it was 30X but when I got it it turned out to be only 20X.. since it was so cheap I kept it (it works fine) but buyer beware on those chinese-made loupes.

Also, my purple kush strain looks a lot different than yours - did you get your clone locally? Now, if you tell me you grew it from seed, then I will know better :)

(Sorry for all the questions!)

We seem to be on kind of the same schedule and in the same area .... I have my 2nd grow in 3rd week of flower and looking good so far

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Yeah, I picked up a loupe at a nearby hydro shop. It was also supposed to be 30x and I paid like $13 for it. I think it's 10x at best!! I think I can see the trichs well enough to make a judgement though. The ambers are bit hard to see...

I either have Granddaddy Purps or Purple Kush! I'm not exactly sure which it is, but it was clone only. I thought they were the same at the time, but I don't believe they are... I can find out for sure in the next few days. The GDP/PK was a dud plant in early flowering, but now it's looking like really tasty, frosty nugs!

Well, I'm at day 52 now. Took a sample bud off of the LA Confidential, which is supposed to be 48-56 days. I think I may take it at 60 days. Root aphids suck. My yield has been totally squashed, but it looks like the nugs will be very frosty and tasty. Here's a sample bud freshly cut and trimmed at day 52!! Trichs are mostly cloudy at this point with a few clear. I noticed a VERY psychedelic high!!

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Looking pretty good. The bug problem might well have delayed harvest date. (you should likely add on the healing time to final harvest date)
What nutrients and additives are you using? Any bulking agents, CalMag, or molasses...? Have you used anything to re-green the leaves?

Pistils are never an indication of plant maturity. Trichomes and prior strain experience are the best (only) guide. A 5x magnifying glass is the weakest I can use to check trichome progress. Once I figured-out what I was looking for, I haven't used my 100x Radio Shack pocket microscope.

The pot not drying-out is a problem. More perlite next time and perhaps some holes in the sides of the pot. If not allowed to dry between waterings, root rot is a definate possibility, and the extra humidity isn't welcome in flower, either. (potential for bud mold)

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Thanks RT. I'm using Humboldt Nutrients Organic Line: Grow Natural, Bloom Natural, and Deuce Deuce. Unfortunately, plants missed feeding for 2-3 weeks while I was busy treating with root aphids. So, they definitely could've taken more food. I did use some Grow Natural to try to re-green the leaves, but it didn't seem to work... it maybe slowed down the yellowing a bit. These root aphids are fierce!!

I'm also using Hygrozyme to help plants recover from root aphids... and a little superthrive here and there. Pretty proud to say that I've remained entirely organic even through spider mite, root aphid, and fungus gnat battles. And yield wasn't totally squashed. This Mr Nice plant seems almost invincible!! It was one of the most heavily infested with root aphids and was the only one to make a strong recovery. I think it had an extremely extensive root system (since it was so big and fast-growing) that it was able to make due with a small amount of damaged roots.

well you said you arent gonna have good yeilds well just save the triming and make some hash you can see how frosty the trimings are in the background in that pic of that bud

looks like you are going to have some nice personal smoke. Too bad on the yield. But, the quality looks awesome. I wish the picture was in Smell-A-Vision.:jointsmile:

^Thanks guys. I'm planning on trying to get some bubble bags (Wacky bags) ASAP! There is a lot of frosty trim and I'm hoping to get a few grams of nice hash. Some of the crappy lower buds will go in with the trim...

I'll update yields, but it'll be a few weeks yet as the Sour D will go about 70-77 days... :rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by lampost

Yeah, I picked up a loupe at a nearby hydro shop. It was also supposed to be 30x and I paid like $13 for it. I think it's 10x at best!! I think I can see the trichs well enough to make a judgement though. The ambers are bit hard to see...

I either have Granddaddy Purps or Purple Kush! I'm not exactly sure which it is, but it was clone only. I thought they were the same at the time, but I don't believe they are... I can find out for sure in the next few days. The GDP/PK was a dud plant in early flowering, but now it's looking like really tasty, frosty nugs!

Well, I'm at day 52 now. Took a sample bud off of the LA Confidential, which is supposed to be 48-56 days. I think I may take it at 60 days. Root aphids suck. My yield has been totally squashed, but it looks like the nugs will be very frosty and tasty. Here's a sample bud freshly cut and trimmed at day 52!! Trichs are mostly cloudy at this point with a few clear. I noticed a VERY psychedelic high!!

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That looks a lot like the LSD I grew last round - trippy high and really tight nuggets, yield not so good though, so I am going all PK this time. You're right, those loupes are just barely good enough to be useful.. that sucks about the aphids; next time around you will be amazed at your grow once those little vampires are gone! I cant believe how good my plants look now that I am rid of the mites

I will throw some pics up once I am a little farther into flower -

take care lampost

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That looks a lot like the LSD I grew last round - trippy high and really tight nuggets, yield not so good though, so I am going all PK this time. You're right, those loupes are just barely good enough to be useful.. that sucks about the aphids; next time around you will be amazed at your grow once those little vampires are gone! I cant believe how good my plants look now that I am rid of the mites

I will throw some pics up once I am a little farther into flower -

take care lampost

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Hey B&D, I just got some follow-up from my clone vendor.

These are apparently a rare strain called Granddaddy Purple Kush (GDPK)!! I asked him if it was GDP or PK and he basically told me GDPK, so I don't know if it's a cross between Granddaddy Purps and PK, but nonetheless it looks like the tastiest purple nugs I've ever seen!! I can't wait to get some nug shots. It's going to be going another 5-10 days though. The yield is pathetic. I'm hoping to get at least 1/2 - 1 OZ between 2 plants.

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Originally Posted by lampost

Sweet, thanks!

I fucked up tonight and forget to close the curtain. The HIDs went out but they were exposed to indirect incandescents for 20 minutes into their dark cycle!!! I'm so pissed at myself for this! I hope they don't hermie on me!!

I'm wondering whether I should give them 12 hours of darkness and postpone the schedule by 20 minutes. Or just keep them on the regular schedule and they only get 11hrs 40mins of darkness tonight. What do you think?!

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that little 20 minutes isnt going to do anything! flowering hormones are so strong, 20 minutes isnt going to do nything. i do that all the time. some growers try to push more than 12 on flowering, but i dont know of any proof that it works better.

ive done quite a few experiments with switching plants from flowering to veg, clipping flowering clones, etc. and some strains will not even switch back because of how strong their flowering hormones are! (sour d is tough)

ive also grown hydro in clear containers for months w no algea!

ive also been trying to get my flower room to having the lights on 12 at night to manage heat. to do this, ive been cutting it back an average of 30 min a day with no problems at all. my advice would be to take it easy and dont beat yourself up ofer stuff like that.

i also purposely let light in my flower room through the cracks of the doors to mimic twilight which is natural. i also have air purifiers in there and they have pretty bright leds on them too. no problems colorful fast growing flowers!

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Originally Posted by lampost

Hey B&D, I just got some follow-up from my clone vendor.

These are apparently a rare strain called Granddaddy Purple Kush (GDPK)!! I asked him if it was GDP or PK and he basically told me GDPK, so I don't know if it's a cross between Granddaddy Purps and PK, but nonetheless it looks like the tastiest purple nugs I've ever seen!! I can't wait to get some nug shots. It's going to be going another 5-10 days though. The yield is pathetic. I'm hoping to get at least 1/2 - 1 OZ between 2 plants.

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Here are some PK pics from week 6-7

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looks really good for a grow you had a battle with.
I own the wacky bags and I love them. Work great. Not as heavy duty as the OG bubble bags but well worth the money. i have had no problems with mine.