Questions about molasses

Thanks in advance for your answers. :thumbsup:

I'm coming up on my fourth week of flower. I've read MANY mentions of molasses in many grow logs, and one REALLY long copy/paste post.

Many mention using this as a supplement during the last weeks of flower to add MANY things, and it all sounds good.:D

However, I've been growing my plants in Fox farms Ocean (pretty much, mixed my own similar for the first re-pot). I bought the B.C. hydro nutes(starter pack), and have been feeding every third watering at about 1/4 strength. Soil PH is in the mid-high 6s. I water just under PH-6 and adjust with General hydro PHdown.

My question would be,.. Should I stick with the set BC nute schedule and not use molasses? Or if I use the molasses, should I eliminate any of the BC nutes to avoid over nuting?

I would recommend you stay away from the molasses and stick with your nutrients. My friend tried the molasses method and it killed his plants hard!

I've never done the molasses, but do know several people that have. I personally have used powdered sugar while flushing....it adds a little sweetness, which is what i think people are trying to do with the molasses. everyone has their own flushing technique, you just gotta find what works for you! :jointsmile:

when I flush, i use about 3 tbsps of powdered sugar and 8 tbsps of catalyst per gallon of water....

Molasses isn't used so much as a flush, as it is a nute supplement that is high in carbs(thus increasing bud growth). I plan to flush with PH set DI/RO, but that might be four weeks out.

I guess my question could switch to,.. Does anyone know if the BC nute package accounts for this already? Or do people use it in addition to the regular nutes?

Currently I'm over joyed at the number of buds I'm seeing. I also know that much of my weight will come on in the last couple weeks. However, whenever I read something new. It creates many more possibilities, I didn't see before.

I would assume the BC nutes will likely continue to impress me (being my first ever grow), But if a little molasses would improve it,... I'm game :D

I know someone that uses BC products and does not need to use anything other than what they recommend. If you really want to try the molasses I would suggest you try it on one plant. Dilute it down by about a teaspoon to one gallon of water, and/or your regular nutrients.

Grow On!

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Originally Posted by McLuvin

I would recommend you stay away from the molasses and stick with your nutrients. My friend tried the molasses method and it killed his plants hard!

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He (or you) used it wrong then.

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Originally Posted by moody420

I personally have used powdered sugar while flushing....it adds a little sweetness.

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Now there's a new twist to an old fable. Unless you sprinkle it on the buds themselves, doubtful the sugar is helping at all.

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Originally Posted by Vancefish

Molasses isn't used so much as a flush, as it is a nute supplement that is high in carbs(thus increasing bud growth).

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Yup.

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Originally Posted by Vancefish

I guess my question could switch to,.. Does anyone know if the BC nute package accounts for this already? Or do people use it in addition to the regular nutes?

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I use Fox Farms nutes, and start the molasses about 4 weeks before harvest, along-side the FF. Not sure of the BC. Use molasses with care, as too much magnesium can lock-out other nutrients. I'm using 1 tsp per gallon of properly ph'd water, once a week.
Get it right, molasses pays off. Use it wrong (overdosing) you can kill the ladies.

Thanks Rusty,:thumbsup:

That's what I was thinking. I'm still not sure though, as BC might contain this stuff already. I know a couple of the supplements used in this kit are quite thick and look a little like Molasses (they don't smell like it though).

The really long article I read after searching this site for info, said (and listed) a few overpriced supplements that were actually just molasses too.

Here's a link for those who don't know, and have some spare time.

http://boards.cannabis.com/organic-g...-goodness.html

Hopefully, someone here might know if this BC has it or not.

Look at the ingredients on the bottle. If it says "derived from sugar beets" or "extracted from sugar cane" or something similar, it's a molasses-based product.

Molasses doesn't smell that good.

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Originally Posted by Vancefish

My question would be,.. Should I stick with the set BC nute schedule and not use molasses? Or if I use the molasses, should I eliminate any of the BC nutes to avoid over nuting?

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if you use molasses stop using "sugar daddy" in the bc nute lineup. sugar daddy is the synthetic molasses

Wish my first grow looked like that! Looking sweet vance! When I used the bc recipe for success in soil and soilless mixes, the girls always produced big chunky buds. And cigs right on with the sugar daddy. Derived form cane sugar. Since I changed to aeroponics, I am now using Fox Farms for the value and simplicity. But keep it up. She looks great! By the way, whats the strain?

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Originally Posted by Brainy

Wish my first grow looked like that! Looking sweet vance! When I used the bc recipe for success in soil and soilless mixes, the girls always produced big chunky buds. And cigs right on with the sugar daddy. Derived form cane sugar. Since I changed to aeroponics, I am now using Fox Farms for the value and simplicity. But keep it up. She looks great! By the way, whats the strain?

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Sweet (so to speak:D). Thanks guys. I planned to check that tonight.

No idea on the strain. This is my first grow, started just to learn what wasn't found in books and threads (hands ON). I got the seeds from a friend who grew outdoors last year. The plant was some sort of skunky kind bud. :thumbsup: However daddy was an unknown. She had some males, that she pulled up, but a couple dropped pollen. There are also some huge legal grows just a couple miles upwind. Thus it is completely unknown, but not Mexican! :D

Year before last she had a purple strain in the same yard that seeded. So it's possible these have a colored father. Woot! :thumbsup:

Now I guess the question could be,.. Is the sugar daddy or molasses a better choice? If molasses is better I'll switch. If it's about the same, I'll stick with what I'm doing. :D

Before ditching the expensive stuff, I'd check and see if you like the molasses any better. Could give it the old side-by-side and see. I like it because I know what's in it, and it's cheaper, and it works, and it replaces a couple of products I'd otherwise have (want?) to buy.

Having said that...I still have a half bottle of Sweet, and a 3/4 full bottle of CalMag Plus I haven't used in a while. Perhaps my roses will like 'em come springtime though.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Before ditching the expensive stuff, I'd check and see if you like the molasses any better.

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take rustys advice on that. I had great results with molasses and soil. If your in soil or a soiless mix I would use molasses but with a hydro grow go with sugar daddy or any other carbo suppliament cause molasses gets funky in a Rez.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Molasses doesn't smell that good.

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Depends on who's sniffer I guess, I like it.