Hello I'm new, but I have a problem with smoking at the moment.

Hello, i am hoping I can get some clearing up on what is exactly happening to me! Well, i'm 22 years old, and i've been smoking since 17. Had my quirks with it, but nothing has ever been this bad. I'd say since around november ish, I started having these rushes that lasted about 5 seconds. They were intense and commanding, but not harmful and they did not make me feel bad in any way. Slowly they grew in intensity from time to time.

Let me explain what exactly happens. It doesn't seem to matter if it is a bong or a piece, and this has even happened with my vaporizor. I take a nice hit, exhale and between almost immediately and 10 seconds later.. i start to get that rush but it goes into something much worse. At first it just started out my body convulsing a bit out of my control for a few seconds. In the last month, they have been so intense that I would try to intentionally get the feeling by smoking until i did. It can be on the first hit, or the 4th. Well i quit doing that, because after a while I started getting hurt.
Now what happens is I get real dizzy but I don't spin, its just blurry. I convulse and I lose control of my arms and legs for about 5 to 8 seconds, and this usually means I fall over. Basically I went limp. So i started sitting down while smoking and this has always been in a bathroom because of where i live. The last episode just occured before I typed this. Smoking out of bong, 1st hit, big rush and some jolting of my arms, like a twitch. second hit is more intense, third I went limp for a few seconds, but managed to stay sitting. I got up, and it came back for a few more seconds and I don't even remember how, but I ended up on the floor having smacked my head against the tub. nothing serious, just a lump.
As far as medical , no real problems. i have minor clinical depression and take prescriptions for it, that is all. the marijuana has always helped in a way the medicine doesn't, and it all works very well together. Also the bud I get is typically from california dispensaries, but the mild rush has came on even seedy stuff.

I'm willing to bet it's simply a sudden rush from oxygen deprivation.

The years of smoking have likely increased your blood pressure and affected your circulation, so taking the big rips might cause a quick shortage of oxygen to the furthest reaches of your body, specifically the arms, legs and eyes.

If you are literally convulsing though, you may want to see a doctor dude. It could be something really serious.

Its all involuntary but i don't know if it is convulsions or just the overall experience feels pulsating.
Anyone else have this experience?
Thanks for the reply.

Go see a doctor and be honest with him. If you're having convulsions and passing out after smoking pot - I wouldn't smoke it anymore.

Agreed.

Have you tried getting any edibles from the dispensary? See if it's related to the o2 deprivation or the actual medicine. Eating it can be better in some cases. The effects last longer, however, they don't come on almost instantly like smoking; they take more towards 30 minutes to an hour like other oral meds, so you don't know right away if what you've ingested is enough, not enough, or too much. It's easy to make a brownie or something yourself, but sometimes we're not so patient or able/willing to buy enough at one time to make the required butter/oil :D.

These episodes do sound like they are related to the lack of oxygen. I have heard that yawning is a very minor form of a seizure. Your brain is not getting enough oxygen from your normal breathing so it causes your body to yawn to get more oxygen.

Try the medibles from the recipe threads or dispensary. I agree with redtails advice, that seems like it should help.

That does not sound normal...definitely go see your doctor...and like they said BE HONEST!

MJ is not for everyone, but that sounds like some pretty serious reactions....i'm curious what the doctor may say about it...keep us posted!

Also, mixing marijuana with prescription medication for your depression is not a good idea. MAOI or other reuptake inhibitors change your brain chemistry. so does marijuana. It can't be a good combination to mix the 2. You have no idea what the effects will be.......... or maybe you do? - you pass out and hit your head on the tub.......

Stop smoking the marijuana and go see your doctor.

Hahaha indeed.. indeed.

Well, i tried not holding those big hits so long. See, i think you guys about the oxygen were right. I smoked a bit today and just exhaled shortly after and it didn't seem to happen. Anyway, I will see a doctor about it, if it persists. I am looking for edibles too, thanks for the suggestion.


No i've never passed out. What I described is like really zoning out, like a salvia effect. The rest seemed to be from holding my breath for so long with those big hits. I tried to get the most out of my smoke this way, but i think i'll stop and we'll see.

Smoke but don't inhale!!

Best to see a doctor if that is not a good answer.

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Hahaha indeed.. indeed.

Well, i tried not holding those big hits so long. See, i think you guys about the oxygen were right. I smoked a bit today and just exhaled shortly after and it didn't seem to happen. Anyway, I will see a doctor about it, if it persists. I am looking for edibles too, thanks for the suggestion.


No i've never passed out. What I described is like really zoning out, like a salvia effect. The rest seemed to be from holding my breath for so long with those big hits. I tried to get the most out of my smoke this way, but i think i'll stop and we'll see.

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holding your hits in any longer than 5 seconds is pointless, just remember that. in 5 seconds 98 percent of that THC will be absorbed. every second after that you are allowing nothing but toxins to be absorbed. So don't worry about holding it in, it doesn't help at all!!

Rudy said that if it was oxygen deprivation you would be yawning... but that isn't necessarily true because you can't yawn while you are taking a hit. and the body will try anything and everything to get oxygen to your entire body... which usually includes shaking since it increases blood flow.

So like I said, just take it easy, don't take monster rips and don't hold them in more than 5 seconds. Exercise and a good diet will certainly help with the circulation and blood pressure problem, but either way if things don't get better you gotta go see a doctor. you never know when things like this could be much more serious than they seem (i.e. if your circulation is being forcibly slowed by a swollen gland or blood clot - which I highly doubt is the case lol)

Just be careful and take good care of yourself. That's the best advice I can give.

You may also want to consider buying a vaporizer. You get more oxygen because there is no flame. Also I had the same problem and it was from my depression meds like pufferlungs referred to. I just took smaller hits and did not hold them for more then about 4 or 5 seconds and eventually my body adjusted.

Hope this helps......

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Also, mixing marijuana with prescription medication for your depression is not a good idea. MAOI or other reuptake inhibitors change your brain chemistry.

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Irreversible maoi's, like tranylcypromine (Parnate), haven't been widely prescribed for more than 20 years due to their many side effects and conflicts with common foods. Only moclobemide is really active in the market place from that group and it's a reversable maoi, so not dietary restrictions and no noted interaction with cannabis. The reuptake inhibitors work selectively on serotonin (hence ssri, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor). All they do is lengthen the period of time your neural synapses are exposed to serotonin by preventing reabsorption for a while longer than usual. Cannabis has a modulating effect on neurotransmitters, so, theoretically speaking cannabis might possibly work at crossed purposes with ssri medications, but there is no current data to either support or deny the idea.

Strange neurological symptoms should always be checked out, if you're feeling weird smoking do seek medical advice.

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holding your hits in any longer than 5 seconds is pointless, just remember that. in 5 seconds 98 percent of that THC will be absorbed. every second after that you are allowing nothing but toxins to be absorbed. So don't worry about holding it in, it doesn't help at all!!

Rudy said that if it was oxygen deprivation you would be yawning... but that isn't necessarily true because you can't yawn while you are taking a hit. and the body will try anything and everything to get oxygen to your entire body... which usually includes shaking since it increases blood flow.

So like I said, just take it easy, don't take monster rips and don't hold them in more than 5 seconds. Exercise and a good diet will certainly help with the circulation and blood pressure problem, but either way if things don't get better you gotta go see a doctor. you never know when things like this could be much more serious than they seem (i.e. if your circulation is being forcibly slowed by a swollen gland or blood clot - which I highly doubt is the case lol)

Just be careful and take good care of yourself. That's the best advice I can give.

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Well thank you for the advice, it sounds good. I didn't know about the 5 seconds. Nothing like I described has happened since I posted. Breathed deeper, without emphasis on holding it.
Actually, I do have a good vaporizor, and it gets killer rips, I definately have it turned on too high, there is too much vapor and I cough a lot. But I love it once in a while. I am pretty new at it.

Thought I would share alittle.

Back in the old days I would take large hits off of a bong or loint with friends. I never told anyone even my best friends that when I smoke alot or held those big hits too long that everthing would white out. For about 5 to 10 seconds my vision would go white out snow storm. Then it started to happen on the job later when doing heavy construction work. Not a good place to be when this happens. Many others depended on me to keep them safe. Never told my doctor either. It developed into being able to see shadow people and dead people and death on the faces of those about to die. Everytime I saw death in someones face they were dead in 6 months. Wife was really creepped out.

Well about 8 years ago I smoked some cig's and a big fat joint got aggravated with a puter and went to the hospital having a minor heart attack if you can call a heart attack minor.

They found I had bad blockage on both sides of my chest and it was blocking blood flow to my heart and brain and making me see things others didn't.

So they put in 2 stenths and now no more white outs. No more seeing death. My mind is much clearer. The buzz is so much better. I wish my friends that died were here to smoke with me.

So the point is untill you or a doctor figures out what is going on.
You are a danger to yourself and everyone around you when this happens. I hope you don't drive.

damn that sucks

Nah its all good now. Oxygen deprivation seemed to be exactly what my problem was. Went with the 5 second rule and now I'm standing up and ripping bongs again. Thank you.

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