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What do you think?
If you took the stems and leaves (if not used or left overs from making hash) then ground them down add some water with a little fertilizer as a binder then compress into plugs or squares.
It seems that this part of the plant could be both good for retaining water and act like a fertilizer or just a good over all mulch.
In my mind there is energy in the stems. Give me your thoughts or experiences if you have tried it.
Just don't get too stoned and use the buds by accident.
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I don't think you should be using left over pot for fertilizer or anything. Every one knows that marijuana is an evil weed. If you did that, it would turn your nice young pot plants into trouble making delinquents. They would quit school and become bums hooked on dope.Quote:
Originally Posted by personified
(The line of thought used above was borrowed from government sources)
The downside to using vegetable matter, or even re-using soil, is that you can transmit plant viruses. Once you get a virus spreading you may as well give it up!
I had a sick plant...Yellow leaves and stunted growth. I tried hard and kept everything perfect. All other plants thrived but this one was crap. I pulled the plant and dumped the peat/perlite mix into the soil bin. I mixed it all up and the next crop ALL the plants were yellow and stunted and sickly. I think the virus was in the root cells and spread throughout the soil mix. I still use my soil twice, but if the plant is sickly and I cant bring it back I pull it and throw the soil out in the yard!
For mulch I use 1/2" deep layer of 1/4" screend gravel in buckets outdoors. It really protects the roots from the heat and keeps holes from washing in the soil. The roots grow right up to the base of the gravel and utilize all of the medium.
I use nothing indoors (indoors you generally want them to dry out quickly and would not want a mulch).
The "tea" made from water hash is bound to be good. I use it when I have it.
I generally put the stems and leaves in the wood stove and smoke em.
lmao at Pepurr
If I understand correctly, you want to use the tricom free steams and roots and fan leaves and such for mulch, well I can tell you right now, that is very good mulch. People have been doing this for thousands of years, hemp or cannabis is a awesome weed deterrent, like pepper said it is a weed, but it is one of the strongest if not the strongest weed, so just its dead presence will not only keep your ground fertile through out the years, but it will be almost completely weed free. Cannabis is a natural insecticide as well as a natural fertilizer. not to mention the long big fibers of cannabis hemp are good for erosion, absolutely hemp fiber is good for allot even mulch.
That is my lack of experience in this matter. That is a very good point there Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by bedrockbob
The Eil and Tasmanian Institute of Agricultural Research has been researching the use of hemp straw as a mulch for use in orchards.
Both the bast and the hurd are highly absorbent and good insulators and make excellent mulching material. Trials on apple trees in Tasmania have shown that the hemp mulch compared well with other mulches, both in terms of soil fauna and in fruit quality. It is also thought that a hemp mulch could be useful for stabilising sand dunes that are liable to erosion.
Madsativia was correct :thumbsup:. However I would still have to agree with Bedrockbob if there was a problem in the prior crop.
1) Hemp crops are grown for fiber, and there is a hell of a bunch of material in a field. Once the fiber (stalks) are harvested and the retting proces begins, TONS of waste material is hauled away. This is your source for mulch. Vast mountains of it. It is commonly used for bio diesel and what is left after that process is probably good mulch. They use it on roadsides to control weeds, on construction sites, to cover ground after a forest fire or brush fire...Yeah! Hemp straw is abundant and uses are many! Hemp aint cannabis and they are talking about mulching apple trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by personified
2) Cannabis crops are small. They had better be less than 95 plants. They are usually in buckets even if they are grown outside. They are usually grown in peat based mixes and not "wild soil". Microbes and stuff in natural topsoil convert plant matter into good things and everything is in balance. Putting an inch of shredded leaves on top of your peat in a bucket would make it wet for 5-6 days, draw fungus gnats, and surely be a giant step backwards.
3) Plant viruses thrive on dead or dying material, So do funguses, bacteria, and bugs. Viruses are often species specific (only attacks cannabis) so it is perfectly safe to use 40-60 tons of hemp fiber tilled into an apple orchard You could put the several garden bags of crap that you have left over after harvesting 95 plants onto your vegetable garden. But to use the scrap from previous cannabis grows to mulch around your new plants? Hey, I wouldnt do it for love or money! Why?
4) Any organic material can be made into compost by the usual method. After composting the stuff is perfectly safe and nature has taken care of (most of) the bad things. Now it aint mulch. It is soil. If you are growing organically that is a totally differnt ball of wax. COmposted material is an important part of organic cannnabis growing.
5) If you are growing in buckets outside you would not use an organic material for mulch. A mineral surface would be ideal. It would not harbor disease, it would be protective and reflective, and hold the soil steady underneath. It would be used only in the driest conditions to hold water in the bucket. In wet times you would want to strip the gravel off to promote rapid drying of the medium. Any "mulch" would be a step backward, especially in late budding when it was wetter, cooler, and the plant needs to be drier.
This is my spin on it. If you hear of "hemp mulch" you are talking huge tonnages of refuse that they are trying to reuse. Groovy, but of no real concern in any type of cannabis grow operation as "mulch".
Bob
So what your saying is that hemp and Mj are not the same plant species. And it takes tons of hemp to make mulch.
Ok Bob :wtf:
No dude. I am saying dont use the old stems and leaves from your previous grow in your buckets. BAD IDEA.Quote:
Originally Posted by personified
They are the same species but are very ovliously CULTIVATED DIFFERENTLY. Thus the DIFFERENCE. Your example of using hemp mulch was on APPLE TREES. It would work great on apple trees BUT NOT IN BUCKETS OF CANNABIS. Because the environment of natural soil and the environment of your growing medium (peat, perlite, vermiculite) IS NOT THE SAME.
MULCH is not COMPOST. You do not use MULCH in buckets of cannabis, nor do you use MULCH when growing hemp. You could however use hemp or cannabis MULCH to grow a fine apple tree! You can use COMPOSTED HEMP in your growing medium, but this would not be "chopped up stems and leaves with a little fertilizer added for binder", nor would it be MULCH.
....GET IT??
If you are going to be a producer of medical cannabis and you are kicking around the idea of chopping up your old trash and introducing it into your buckets of medium then you have a long way to go to square one. Like I said, read any book out there on the subject and ask questions from there.
I agree their is no use to use mulch in your grow room, you are already using prepared soil so, there really is no reason for it, but for your lawn or your flower bed, yeah absolutely. also in our environment pests, diseases and viruses are easy to keep out, usually; so there should be no worrying about this stuff, I have seen grows out door here go for a long time naturally and they still don't have pests or even root problems. it is a sight to see though lol magic bush, I have seen some deer love that area though haha
Good advice.There are natural deer repellents that you can use to keep critters off them.
"I make a mixture of tobacco juice (buy a bag of Beech Nut Chew and soak it in water) and cayenne pepper and put it into a spray bottle.
I spray all around the plant but not actually on them and it seems to keep them away."
"A small infra red trigger and a can of compressed air.
Deer comes near and pssssstttttttt,deer legs it and never comes back"
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