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Come celebrate the Grand opening of
Sacred Plant Medicine of Tacoma
1208 Proctor St S. Tacoma, WA
11am - 6pm, Monday - Friday [no appointment needed]
Sacred is a member owned non-profit community supported agricultural project.
Mission: Our exclusive purpose is to help sustaining the legal ??medical use of marijuana? in accordance with RCW69.51A.
High Grade medical cannabis
Clones * Seeds * Cookies * Brownies
Ice Cream * tinctures * lotions
We are the exclusive Washington distributors of:
TGA/Sub Cool seeds
Seeds of Truth Genetics
West Coast Dreamery
Turtle's Medibles
Mary Jane's Herbals
Membership with be open to all American Heritage Medical, CBR medical,
Sentry Medical Group, THCF clinic and Olympia Patient Resource Center
members with a recognized Authorization or ID Card.
Sacred Plant Medicine | Facebook
SACRED
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I'm going to try and swing by and pickup a couple samples.
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I was happy to be a first day sign-in. I enjoyed the experience.
The staff is friendly and is very attentive to your needs. Medicine
is dispensed as it should be like in old times, right there in front of
you. No prepackaging. You are helped individually and it's very
private. It was a very natural experience. Peace. :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by bridge4
I was happy to be a first day sign-in. I enjoyed the experience.
The staff is friendly and is very attentive to your needs. Medicine
is dispensed as it should be like in old times, right there in front of
you. No prepackaging. You are helped individually and it's very
private. It was a very natural experience. Peace. :thumbsup:
:) Thanks Bridge4 and much love!!! :)
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I have a card from a different organization than any of those listed and my authorization
form is signed by my general physician. Does this mean that I would not be able to visit
your store? Or could you email and I'll provide more specific info?
I also do web stuff - if you're in need of help there
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Originally Posted by Wenchy
I have a card from a different organization than any of those listed and my authorization
form is signed by my general physician. Does this mean that I would not be able to visit
your store? Or could you email and I'll provide more specific info?
I also do web stuff - if you're in need of help there
short answer is NO... which card is it???
Sacred :)
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my gf is a patient and has her card(sentry), and we live pretty close to you we are just wondering if you have a waiting room for me ( sure she goes in back 1 at a time ) shes just scared about the whole business thing and private island treats (cannacare) is just to far for us thanks we hopeto see you soon:)
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Originally Posted by jjz2009
my gf is a patient and has her card(sentry), and we live pretty close to you we are just wondering if you have a waiting room for me ( sure she goes in back 1 at a time ) shes just scared about the whole business thing and private island treats (cannacare) is just to far for us thanks we hopeto see you soon:)
yes
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thanks for the quick reply we dont need a apt? thnks what strains do u have do u have good edibles? those help my gf crohns more then smoking
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Originally Posted by jjz2009
we dont need a apt? thnks what strains do u have do u have good edibles?
1. yes you do need an application... but you fill it out when you show up [quick and simply]
2. sorry you have to come in to see the menu
3. yes we have great Medibles [medical + edibles = Medibles]
Sacred :)
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Lifevine? I didn't know they actually did a card, but yep I have one.
I previously had authorization through THCF but this year, my Dr. instead.
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[quote=Wenchy]Lifevine?[QUOTE]
yes we will except Lifevine ID cards as long as there not expired.
Sacred
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I live in vancouver and am a member of c.b.r. is there any where down here I can find meds or clones?
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Originally Posted by ospray83
I live in vancouver and am a member of c.b.r. is there any where down here I can find meds or clones?
not sure sorry!!! I know the Olympia Patient Resource Center has a list of providers not sure if the are close to you or not... good luck!!!
Sacred
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Well I went to Sacred today and here is my review.
First is we all no these dispensaries are operating illegally but there is a geniune need for them so I have no problem with them operating.
When I showed up at Sacred I was asked to fill out there simple questionaire which is fine.
What isn't fine though is they do not accept legally signed doctor authorization forms. They aren't even close to trying to stay within the laws.
A card from a doc in a box is not legal proof of ANYTHING in Washington state. In order to be a legal MMJ patient you have to have a signed and dated copy of your MMJ authorization form. That is the only legal tender here in Washington. So because of that I wasn't able to buy any products there. I was looking forward to buying a couple ounces of a couple different strains to try out and maybe pickup some seeds.
People you need to read the state law, its a very simple law and easy to understand. Its bad enough that some people have to go to the black market to get there meds and its even worse when some of these establishments aren't even trying to stay close to the laws. Buyer beware as always.
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Originally Posted by killerweed420
Well I went to Sacred today and here is my review.
First is we all no these dispensaries are operating illegally but there is a geniune need for them so I have no problem with them operating.
When I showed up at Sacred I was asked to fill out there simple questionaire which is fine.
What isn't fine though is they do not accept legally signed doctor authorization forms. They aren't even close to trying to stay within the laws.
A card from a doc in a box is not legal proof of ANYTHING in Washington state. In order to be a legal MMJ patient you have to have a signed and dated copy of your MMJ authorization form. That is the only legal tender here in Washington. So because of that I wasn't able to buy any products there. I was looking forward to buying a couple ounces of a couple different strains to try out and maybe pickup some seeds.
People you need to read the state law, its a very simple law and easy to understand. Its bad enough that some people have to go to the black market to get there meds and its even worse when some of these establishments aren't even trying to stay close to the laws. Buyer beware as always.
I'm sorry you didn't understand our procedure!!! and yes we do accept paper authorizations they just need to be verified 1st... and we do not directly contact doctors to verify as this would jeopardize them!!! As you have stated we are tolerated by local law enforcement so by contacting a doctor he would be Aiding and Abetting to provide cannabis to people which is illegal under federal law... [any doctor who is in direct contact with the cannabis provider is only risking lose of license/arrest].
As indicated by the Supreme Court of the United States, ??In order to aid and abet another to commit a crime it is necessary that a defendant 'in some sort associate himself with the venture, that he participate in it as in something that he wishes to bring about, that he seek by his action to make it succeed.? Nye & Nissen v. United States, 336 U.S. 613, 618 (1949) quoting Judge Learned Hand in U.S. v. Peoni 100 F.2d 401, 402 (2d. Cir. 1938).
I think calling the doctor to ask if he/she signed the authorization [Just so we can feel better about giving you access to medical cannabis] would qualify as Aiding and Abetting
Read what Drug Policy Alliance Network says about what a doctor can and can not do: Medical Marijuana Cases: Conant v. Walters
All you have to do to be able to visit us is go get your paper authorization verified by Olympia patient Resource Center or any other patient ID center.
Sorry if you still feel upset!!!
We feel that we are protecting the doctors license/freedom which in turn helps protect you.
Sacred
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BUT you still are essentially a dispensary which is specifically not allowed in the law.
I feel this is bad (though very much needed) to be going outside the law. That lowers us to the same level we were before getting authorization.
I am all for dispensaries. They are needed. I also see the caretaker system works.
We could end up hurting our position as medical users to support something like this. I have been watching in particular Colorado, and they have a real mess with the dispensaries. California has so many I don't see how any can make money and I hear the quality of the product is decreasing because they just buy from any grower.
I commend the COOP on what they attempt to do, which is provide for patients in need that cannot, will not, or are unable to grow. BUT going outside the letter of the law is bad for the whole legalization process. WE MUST POLICE OURSELVES.
Sorry, I am sure I am upsetting many, but I sure as hell do not want to loose the legal use of such a wonderful medicine because other folks want to play outside the law.
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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
BUT you still are essentially a dispensary which is specifically not allowed in the law.
I feel this is bad (though very much needed) to be going outside the law. That lowers us to the same level we were before getting authorization.
I am all for dispensaries. They are needed. I also see the caretaker system works.
We could end up hurting our position as medical users to support something like this. I have been watching in particular Colorado, and they have a real mess with the dispensaries. California has so many I don't see how any can make money and I hear the quality of the product is decreasing because they just buy from any grower.
I commend the COOP on what they attempt to do, which is provide for patients in need that cannot, will not, or are unable to grow. BUT going outside the letter of the law is bad for the whole legalization process. WE MUST POLICE OURSELVES.
Sorry, I am sure I am upsetting many, but I sure as hell do not want to loose the legal use of such a wonderful medicine because other folks want to play outside the law.
FYI... We are a WA state Non-profit corporation [unlike many of the others] and have recieved a state master business/city license to provide safe access to medical cannabis, plus we have also recieved our nursery/seed/shop keeper licenses and have our scales register with the state. [Need proof come in and at a look at our licenses or go online to check our business status/licenses]
Plus what we are doing is not illegal it's a grey area and we have been in contact with Tacoma PAO Lindquist who has stated that he is not interested in legitimate medical marijuana patients helping each other... then back up that statement publicly in the newspaper.
So please I wouldn't worry about loosing the legal use of such a wonderful medicine do to our actions!!! the 10th ammendment of the US constitution gives you/us the right [and once you have a right to do something it is harder to take away!]
Sacred
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Originally Posted by sacredoftacoma
I'm sorry you didn't understand our procedure!!! and yes we do accept paper authorizations they just need to be verified 1st... and we do not directly contact doctors to verify as this would jeopardize them!!! As you have stated we are tolerated by local law enforcement so by contacting a doctor he would be Aiding and Abetting to provide cannabis to people which is illegal under federal law... [any doctor who is in direct contact with the cannabis provider is only risking lose of license/arrest].
As indicated by the Supreme Court of the United States, “In order to aid and abet another to commit a crime it is necessary that a defendant 'in some sort associate himself with the venture, that he participate in it as in something that he wishes to bring about, that he seek by his action to make it succeed.” Nye & Nissen v. United States, 336 U.S. 613, 618 (1949) quoting Judge Learned Hand in U.S. v. Peoni 100 F.2d 401, 402 (2d. Cir. 1938).
I think calling the doctor to ask if he/she signed the authorization [Just so we can feel better about giving you access to medical cannabis] would qualify as Aiding and Abetting
Read what Drug Policy Alliance Network says about what a doctor can and can not do:
Medical Marijuana Cases: Conant v. Walters
All you have to do to be able to visit us is go get your paper authorization verified by Olympia patient Resource Center or any other patient ID center.
Sorry if you still feel upset!!!
We feel that we are protecting the doctors license/freedom which in turn helps protect you.
Sacred
But that makes no sense. A signed dated medical authorization is the only legal document allowed in Washington. The cards mean nothing. I could have made me up a card at home and laminated it. If you have to verify an authorization form then you have to verify a card and there's only one way to verify eother and thats by calling the doctors office. Are you having Jeremy call the doctors offfice just to have a cut out?
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Originally Posted by killerweed420
But that makes no sense. A signed dated medical authorization is the only legal document allowed in Washington. The cards mean nothing. I could have made me up a card at home and laminated it. If you have to verify an authorization form then you have to verify a card and there's only one way to verify eother and thats by calling the doctors office. Are you having Jeremy call the doctors offfice just to have a cut out?
As you state "A signed dated medical authorization is the only legal document allowed in Washington"
Please read RCW69.51A.010 section(5)
(5) "Valid documentation" means:
(a) A statement signed by a qualifying patient's physician, or a copy of the qualifying patient's pertinent medical records, which states that, in the physician's professional opinion, the patient may benefit from the medical use of marijuana;
(b) Proof of identity such as a Washington state driver's license or identicard, as defined in RCW 46.20.035; and
(c) A copy of the physician statement described in (a) of this subsection shall have the same force and effect as the signed original.
So I ask you to explain how is a hard or laminate card issued is not valid documentation??? Does it not have all the required information???
In my opinon a paper note is easier to forge [I could have just faked the note in the car before entering] A hard or laminate card is alot more visibly identifiable as legitimate or fake.
Once again sorry you are upset!!! :)
Sacred
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I don't see anything about a card being legal tender listed there. Its far safer to have the doctors signed MMJ authorization form. And anything can easily be forged in this day and age. Like I said I could easily forge a MJ card here at home in 15 minutes and laminate it. I realize the cards are more convienient to carry than a folded up copy of an MMJ authorization but I try to stay as legal as I can considering the vague laws.
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Originally Posted by killerweed420
I don't see anything about a card being legal tender listed there. Its far safer to have the doctors signed MMJ authorization form. And anything can easily be forged in this day and age. Like I said I could easily forge a MJ card here at home in 15 minutes and laminate it. I realize the cards are more convienient to carry than a folded up copy of an MMJ authorization but I try to stay as legal as I can considering the vague laws.
If having a paper authorization makes you feel safer that is great news!!! But the reallity is... it is up to the officer if he likes your authorization or not... in my opinion a hard or laminate card that is visibly recognizable by LEO is a good thing it helps with patient protection [what if it's late at night or your doctor is closed???]
Once again all patients with a paper authorization have to do to be able to visit us is go get their paper authorizations verified as legitimate by Olympia patient Resource Center or any other patient ID center.
Sorry if you still feel upset!!!
We feel that we are protecting the doctors license/freedom which in turn helps protect patients.
Sacred
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I have a signed, blue ink for Doc's signature and my information just like the original copy of my authorization shrunk down to credit card size with no expiration date. It shows my name, etc and the doc's signature on the front and the risk benefits on the back. And its laminated by me. I also have a card from The Religion of Jesus Christ, aka The Wormhole that's laminated. Do these qualify with you? I also carry in my vehicle an authorization copy with attached supporting medical documents to back my cards up. So, will this qualify me with you? I know, the Wormhole has never questioned me about how valid my authorization is. :what::confused:
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So this is the deal" what they are really"not telling" you is , yes all u need is your recomendation from your DR, but the reason that is not good enough for them is simply because they want to charge u for one of the"fancy" 75$ they sell,,, save yourself the frustration amd grief " not to mention the disapointment" and go to one of the other guys as u will see they do not try and gouge an extra 75$ for nothing other then to pad there pockets just a little bit more, Ive called around in tacoma and all they require is your DR recomendation,yep thats it,call around dont get screwed
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I guess thats what I get for bloggin while drivin, what I ment was 75$ for one of there fancy cards,, buddy went to 420 and all they asked for was his DR note, might wanna call and make sure but thats what he said , also called green cross and they said the same.
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Sorry if you do not like our policies... you are free to go where you wish [of course] I was just informing people about our group.
also to my knowledge Olympia Patient Resource Center does not charge $75 for it's Id card [maybe your are thinking of a different patient ID card center] The OPRC only charges a $40 donation [plus the card has other benefits that come with it... such as a 15% discount at the OPRC]
Sacred
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Sacred,
Ya, well loopholes exist all over, you make me perceive that you are more interested in financial gain than promoting the advance of medical cannabis use. Skirting around the law playing with loopholes pisses of cops and lawmakers.
I wish you best and hope no true patients get damaged.
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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
Sacred,
Ya, well loopholes exist all over, you make me perceive that you are more interested in financial gain than promoting the advance of medical cannabis use. Skirting around the law playing with loopholes pisses of cops and lawmakers.
I wish you best and hope no true patients get damaged.
Sorry you perceive our interest as purely financial... Sacred Plant Medicnie is a Non profit WA business.
Sacred
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sacred medicine is smart for not calling the doctor's office to verify. Read Conant v Walters and what that decision meant. A summary would be that it says doctors can recommend marijuana as part of their free speech in states with MMJ laws, but they can't help the patient find or get medicine in any way. Confirming a patient so they can get medicine is helping.
A third party that doesn't provide patients with medicine can confirm with a doctor and the doctor is not helping anyone get medicine.
Sacred can then verify with that third party, and no doctors put their license in jeopardy.
The fact that green cross not only verifies with doctors, but has the doctor do so through the faxing of a signed official green cross document is placing every doctor that has verified with green cross in the position of losing their license. Wanna shut down the WA MMJ program over night? Get the license of every doc willing to write a recommendation.
Kudos to sacred for being smarter than the rest of 'em :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
Sacred,
Ya, well loopholes exist all over, you make me perceive that you are more interested in financial gain than promoting the advance of medical cannabis use. Skirting around the law playing with loopholes pisses of cops and lawmakers.
I wish you best and hope no true patients get damaged.
WashougalWonder I get a kick out of you calling us scared LMAO!!! because it is obvious we are far from scared... Here's our address 1208 S. Proctor Tacoma, WA
Maybe you should ask the other guys if they are scared!!! and why the don't post there address or why they need to verifiy??? Could it be they are worried about being raided cuz they are operating illegally???
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Originally Posted by justpics
sacred medicine is smart for not calling the doctor's office to verify. Read Conant v Walters and what that decision meant. A summary would be that it says doctors can recommend marijuana as part of their free speech in states with MMJ laws, but they can't help the patient find or get medicine in any way. Confirming a patient so they can get medicine is helping.
A third party that doesn't provide patients with medicine can confirm with a doctor and the doctor is not helping anyone get medicine.
Sacred can then verify with that third party, and no doctors put their license in jeopardy.
The fact that green cross not only verifies with doctors, but has the doctor do so through the faxing of a signed official green cross document is placing every doctor that has verified with green cross in the position of losing their license. Wanna shut down the WA MMJ program over night? Get the license of every doc willing to write a recommendation.
Kudos to sacred for being smarter than the rest of 'em :thumbsup:
Thanks and Much Love justpics!!! You seems to be the only one here to understand our policies... We are very much worried about protecting doctors/patients!!!
Unlike like the others... who just want to verify so the can feel better about allowing patient safe access to medical cannabis not caring that the doctor could lose his/her freedom/license [not to mention null and void all the Mj authorizations signed by them]
Our goal is to creating a new standard here in Washington for MMJ coops/dispensaries [not just monkey see, monkey do] We have had our attorney working on this project for 2 years... every detail has been looked over.
Sacred
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And your absolutely right. You have the right to run your business anyway you feel. I think we're just going a little overboard here on trying to stay legal when obviously there is nothing legal about dispensaries in Washington.
I just want people to understand that simple fact so they can make an educated decision on whether to use a dispensary or not.
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Originally Posted by killerweed420
And your absolutely right. You have the right to run your business anyway you feel. I think we're just going a little overboard here on trying to stay legal when obviously there is nothing legal about dispensaries in Washington.
I just want people to understand that simple fact so they can make an educated decision on whether to use a dispensary or not.
I would also like to point out that there is nothing illegal about coop/dispensaries in Washington... they are just not clearly defined in law. [We have all state and city licenses... which we could not get if it were illegal to operate.]
But your point is 100% correct... patients should educate themselves and be safe in all the decisions they make involing mmj or their freedom!
Sacred
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Sacred...Got it that time :jointsmile:, man what can I say, dyslexic stoned fingers. Please I know damn good and well you are not scared. LOL
So sorry about that.
Hang in there, someone has to do it.
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What I find puzzling with your argument about verifying through the doctors office, in no way endangers the doctor. He is only verifying that the person has a valid authorization, and in no way is it helping a person acquire medicine. Its no different then LEO calling to verify. :jointsmile:
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I can certainly see Sacred wanting to verify the documents if it isn't one of the major clinics and such where they would know the names and signatures of the doctors.
As a caretaker I required the person I assist to provide me with his doctors statement and some of his documented medical history that constitutes the valid medical condition and his statement giving me authorization. Take no chances.
Regardless if skirting with disaster and loopholes, calling or contacting docs does verify. Like Gypski says tho, that will have no more effect on their license than the written documents do.
But it is oxymoronic to me to be so damn careful one way and taking such risk another. I guess that is why I am an old fart.:stoned:
:stoned:I am wasted, I hope that made sense:stoned::stoned:
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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
But it is oxymoronic to me to be so damn careful one way and taking such risk another. I guess that is why I am an old fart.:stoned: :stoned:I am wasted, I hope that made sense:stoned::stoned:
Perfect sensi!!!
We do it to protect Patients/Doctors... [not our own butts]:)
Sacred
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So are you saying that you are the only dispensery thats operating"legally" in the state of WA? because thats what Im hearing, and funny that you say you canr verify with the DR and thats why you ask that we get a "50$" laminated card,well my friends I know for a fact that they do verify because I have sat in the office and listened to the phone calls????? so please my friend make up your mind? do you verify or not? and again why is that we need your fancy card? come on now think of a better one this time??
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Originally Posted by gypski
What I find puzzling with your argument about verifying through the doctors office, in no way endangers the doctor. He is only verifying that the person has a valid authorization, and in no way is it helping a person acquire medicine. Its no different then LEO calling to verify. :jointsmile:
Why is it puzzling??? "He is only verifying that the person has a valid authorization" to the source of a federally illegal drug which helps that person to acquire it... in my opinion it seems alot different then verifying to LEO to help keep a patient out of jail.
Maybe your right??? but why risk it???
Sacred
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Originally Posted by imjussayn
funny that you say you canr verify with the DR and thats why you ask that we get a "50$" laminated card,well my friends I know for a fact that they do verify because I have sat in the office and listened to the phone calls????? so please my friend make up your mind? do you verify or not? and again why is that we need your fancy card? come on now think of a better one this time??
???What??? If this was true why did killerweed420 have trouble with his paper authorization??? Are you sure your talking about Sacred Plant Medicine???