What kind of setup is able to produce 3lbs per month?

Debating back and forth with a like minded friend of mine and we both agree on alot of things when it comes to growing. We're talking/arguing about what a decent grow can produce and the costs, etc.... We are differing on a couple of things;

What kind of system does it take to produce 3 lbs per month or every other month of respectable med?

I say it take a nice sized hydro system or even a soil grow with at least three 1000 watt lights for flowering and three 1000 watt MH for vegging with twenty plants at any given time under each set. And have a perpetual grow going to produce that amount of meds with seedlings or clones/vegg/flower going at any given time.

I think it can be done in a couple of grow tents in a garage with the proper lighting ventilation, he thinks not.

He believes it would take twice that amount in both plants and lights and could only be done with a hydro system on a monthly basis and that a soil grow couldn't reach that level on even an every other month basis.

What would be the minimums necessary to produce that amount on a monthly or every two month period?

Our other debate is what strains are best for something like this. I say Northern Lights and G13. He thinks an Sativa/Indica hybrid would be a better type of plant for this kind of grow, no specific strains.

I would like to hear what you think or know. Thanks!!!!

G

I've only seen trees and one grow that could produce 3lbs on one plant. Here is the thread's link.

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...-bubblers.html

Now to produce this weight every month. You'd need to start one plant, via this method, every month, until you finish the first plant. You'd need two rooms as well. One to grow and one to flower.

So, from what I've gathered you need to either plan to have say 12lbs every 4-5 months with one room, OR you can have, or run, multiple rooms. Such as one to grow and one to flower. Giving you a new crop every 55-80ish days.

Depending on strain, lighting, grow technique, nutes,.....

MOST people hope and pray for 1lbs per plant. Many pull it off, but not all.

So, read read read..:thumbsup:

Also it takes a good size plant to produce those numbers. This means lots of time vegging.

So, to produce a pound every month, you COULD do it with a single plant. Start another plant every month. After around 2 months your first plant will be ready to flower. A pure Indica can flower in as little as 55 days from what I've read. Sativa is more like 12 weeks.

Hope that helps. :thumbsup:

Not one plant, but like twenty plants under each 3 sets of 1000 watt MH lights and twenty under 3 1000 HP each in a different room or grow tent, with another twenty seeding or cloning. for a total of sixty plants at any given time under either seeding, vegging, and flowering.

Thanks though!!:jointsmile:

Let me clarify:

Not one plant, but like twenty plants under each 3 sets of 1000 watt MH lights and twenty under 3 1000 HP each in a different room or grow tent, with another twenty seeding or cloning. for a total of sixty plants at any given time under either seeding, vegging, and flowering.

That's what I think it would take to produce 3 lbs per month either soil or hydro in a grow tent or seperate rooms. My buddy thinks it can only be done with twice the lights and on a hydro system alone.

Thanks though!!:jointsmile:

you could hit 3 pounds a light (1000) a month with the right style and strain

OK

So, you want to produce 3 lbs every one month.

You need 2 rooms.

First one is all blue lighting like Fluorescent or MH. You start your ?? number of plants in room 1 to grow them to the desired height. This alone takes anywhere from NO time(if you throw clones into flower and have no height to grow in), OR can take a year to grow a large bush.

Only you know what space you have is my point here.

A standard plant in someones grow room MIGHT reach 2-3 feet before they start it flowering. That takes around two months.

THEN, when you put it into flower under the HPS lighting you can move it to the flower room. This room does nothing but 12/12 under the red light of HPS. Each plant needs around 2.5 square feet of floor/table space for light penetration.

Once in this room it will take anywhere from 55 days to 12 weeks to be finished.

Humidity, nutes, temperature, CO2, lighting and strain will determine your yield.

The only way to produce that amount EVERY month would be to have four rooms going or a large enough flowering room with lighting to have two stages of flowering or do what most do and accept that this takes around four months to complete a grow and finish one every two months while running two stages. Grow and Flower.

Basically I think your question is far to broad to really answer. You want 5000 lumens per square foot. I don't remember the PAR numbers.

I read a thread about a SOG grow. This guy puts rooted clones directly into flower. He starts five clones every week. After 8-12 weeks he had around 3 ounces every week as long as he started new ones every time he pulled finished ones.

Point is,.. Every grow is different. Every strain is different. Your schedule is REALLY different. :D

So kinda hard to say on what you've given.

With lots of money and lots of space you could produce 3 lbs every week. You'd have a lot of plants going on different schedules though.

Okay, I know HOW to grow, I'm asking a very simple question. How many lights and plants to produce 3 lbs per month? Thats all.

I think it would take 2 rooms or tents, 3 1000 watt lights in each room/tent, twenty plants in each room. One room is MH, one room is HPS.

Someone else has a different opinion than I and we're trying to come up with the most accurate answer. Thats all I'm after, what would it take, all else being equal, would it take to produce 3 lbs per month, every month. Forget the strain part, etc...

Thanks for the information though, I appreciate it!! I'm sorry if I'm coming across as an asshole, I'm not trying to honestly, just trying to get some basic information to argue economic and financial points with.

"If Chuck decides to grow medicine for a living, how many lights of what kind and how many plants would it take to produce 3 lbs per month, every month for Chuck to achieve his goal?"

if you can't work it out youself I suggest watching this and having a good long think about it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbAoX...eature=related

Using the type of grow system you are speaking of, (I already do this, just not at this size), you need to know the production of a give species on the average.

For example I don't let any of my stuff get over 4 feet tall. I have indica and sativia genotypes, some strong in each category. I still get about 1.5-2 ounces of dried bud, never weigh out the trim, which I use for the beginnings of cannabutter.

So, at 20 plants in the flower room, if you want to continue taking out a certain amount every week, say 2 per week, then that gets you4 oz a week.

The point is, you have so many variables in plant production, size, type, veg time, etc, no one can honestly answer that question with the information provided.

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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder

Using the type of grow system you are speaking of, (I already do this, just not at this size), you need to know the production of a give species on the average.

For example I don't let any of my stuff get over 4 feet tall. I have indica and sativia genotypes, some strong in each category. I still get about 1.5-2 ounces of dried bud, never weigh out the trim, which I use for the beginnings of cannabutter.

So, at 20 plants in the flower room, if you want to continue taking out a certain amount every week, say 2 per week, then that gets you4 oz a week.

The point is, you have so many variables in plant production, size, type, veg time, etc, no one can honestly answer that question with the information provided.

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Thanks Washougalwonder. :thumbsup:

I actually wrote a huge response to the I KNOW post, But decided for someone who knew so much, I'd allow someone else to try and explain the lack of info. :D So I deleted the post I wrote last night. Didn't want the guy to think I'm just an assh--e! :D

Does it need to be harvested once a month or only average 3lbs per month?

Well, just do about half of this: http://boards.cannabis.com/growroom-...s-light-3.html and you can get even more, and it's a soil grow too :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Vancefish

Thanks Washougalwonder. :thumbsup:

I actually wrote a huge response to the I KNOW post, But decided for someone who knew so much, I'd allow someone else to try and explain the lack of info. :D So I deleted the post I wrote last night. Didn't want the guy to think I'm just an assh--e! :D

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Dude, your not an asshole and I appreciate your time and effort:jointsmile:.

I was having an intense debate with a close friend and I decided to pose the questions we were arguing about on the forum so he could see for himself, and I wan't finding what I wanted to know through search or a whole list of other ways last nite.

I respect and appreciate all your thoughts, your effort and time.

I know I would need two rooms, different lighting etc... I was trying to get a fix on besides all the other equipment and systems, what would it take at a minimum to achive 3 lbs per month or 36 lbs per year given the right strain, support systems like CO2, nutes, and ventilation, and so forth.

I apologize if I came off as the asshole, just alot of strong herb last nite with a few glasses of wine and a friend that loves to argue more than I do.

G

I'd go with the SOG style and probably 30 clones harvested a month, bases on 1.5-2oz per plant. Space for flower would be a large room in basement/attic(30x20?) and a 10x10 room for vegging/cloning/mothers. I'd say at least 12 HPS at 600 or 1000w to flower and you could get away with 2 MH for vegging with some fluoros above the cloning shelves. Definitely doable, but encroaching on making botany your full time job...

My plan is two rooms.

First room will be 2 1000w MH for Veg. I plan to use the Ebb&flow 12 bucket system off e-bay. However my first grow will be soil.

I can cut clones from these just before moving to flower. I will start the clones in this set up once I build it.

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponi...o-results.html

Once the clones are rooted they will be under flouresant and CFLs (I already built) until they are ready to move into the first room. I will have these in my Kitchen, just I'm growing now.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...rial-grow.html

Then I plan a second room (after the first harvest). This room will use the same but seperate ebb and flow system, but be strictly a flowering room. It is slightly larger and will use 2 1000w HPS with maybe a few lower wattage to suppliment dark spots. This room will have CO2.

I plan to use LST to increase yield as well. Hence the trial grow.

NOW, after all the reading and research I've done. I still have NO CLUE what to expect in yield.

This is a legal medical grow as well. I'm hoping to get 12 lbs out of 12 plants every 2-ish months (depending on the strain).

I'm going to count on 4.:thumbsup:

Very cool, thanks for sharing.

What I'm envisioning is this (after arguing with my friend and brother in law who is in on this hobby with me) to supplement our smoking enjoyment and to provide a wide range of diverse strains to sample;

Starting with a soil grow, perhaps going to a hydro setup once I learn how to use one correctly.

Two rooms/grow tents, the first one with between 2 and 4 MH 1000 watt for vegging and putting seedlings in.

The second room/tent with between 2 and 4 HPS 1000 watt lights for a 12/12 flowering.

Using a the necessary fans, ventilation, CO2 system, LST, organic nutrients and soil to enhance growth and yield in both tents.

My thought is something like this could support an output of 3 lbs a month (cycling plants through) or harvesting 4 times a year for a total of 9-10 lbs per harvest after drying and curing, with a total yearly output of 36 to 40 lbs annually of excellent med.

My friend thinks this could only be done with twice as many lights and on a hydro system only, and I disagree of course. (this is what happens when you get a socialist and a libertarian in the same room, smoking out and drinking wine....)

I know alot about many different things but this isn't one of them so I'm trying learn as much as I can from this forum and you fellow gardners. I know how to grow, just not to that level or what to expect per plant, per light, etc...

I apologize if I came off as an asshole, I didn't intend to at all. How you write something can be read quite differently than what was intended when it was written. So I apologize if I was a dick, I would never be one to anyone on here unless they attacked me first. I'm actually the friendliest guy you'll ever meet and sincerely appreciate everyone on this board.

Thanks for your time and input, and hope everyone has a great day!!

G

jesus why do people have to be so difficult. the answer to your question is YES!
(this is all hypotheticial of course)
you can easily grow 3lbs a month with 20 plants soil or hydro. the only thing is waiting the first three months while you split up your plants veg and flower cycles. you can have 20 plants vegging in one room ready to be flowered while in the flower room have 20 plants ready to be harvested.

the first month when your first plants are redy you can cut clones and plant them and still have your mothers veg for a couple more weeks if you want more yield. then in another month take another set of clones from your mothers and put them in the flowering room. So now you have clones that are ready to be flowered every 4-6 weeks. if done correctly you should have no problem getting this kind of yield with 20 plants as long as you pick a strain that is fast growing and keep cutting clones every month.

oh and one more thing you'll obviously need a little extra room in the vegging room for the clones and don't forget dry space.

so ideally to get proper number and decent quality you would need more rooms. but this can be done for sure

Thanks Farmer! I appreciate the information greatly. I have some interesting ideas in mind... :D That was what I was looking for, as in would that amount of lighting and so forth support that kind of harvest. I hope you're having a great day and wish you the best!

G