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Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?
The pubic is getting less ignorant about marijuana and once the news of how it has and will benefit California's economy becomes well known. This subject will come up in a lot of political conversations. This will probably be followed by backing for legalization or decriminalization. The question is will Obama have the bravery to support it? Would have McCain? Ganja Wise wants to know what you think.
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Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?
obama's been paid to "think straight" about drugs and such..probably millions upon millions of dollars to say that legalization is not in his vocabulary..he will increase the national debt though, that's the change we can believe in
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Will Obama Legalize Marijuana?
He pretty unequivocally said no to this already, though I think it was before the election where you can't touch anything vaguely controversial. Nonetheless I doubt it; Barney Frank introduced a bill for decrim but I doubt much of anyone will touch it.
If anything maybe the Governator's replacement will do it and others states will follow suit.
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" will Obama legalize marijuana ? " ... :wtf: ... no personal offense meant, but that's just about the dumbest question I've ever heard ... do you have NO comprehension or concept, of Obama's whole administration ? ... simple version: PHONY, PHONY, PHONY ... stop wasting your time with him, start doing your research for the next election, and leave the gullibility behind ... :smokin:
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I dont think he will. It sucks but its the truth hes the first african american pres you think hes gonna do anything the people pullin the strings tell him NOT to do? like the aboves said hes probably getting millions to keep doing the same old thing everyone does.
Change we can believe in? lol the only thing that changed was the color of the skin of the man sittin in the fucking chair thats it. He lied his ass off from the getgo like EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN DOES when we americans get to vote its usually between two bowls of shit the only difference is the smell. I dont think anyone has fairly won an election here since the 1800's and even thats debatable whoever is willing to play ball is put into the seat and just as quickly removed once they go against the games creators lol
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A part off the question was weather or not McCain would have either.
Also which politicians if any do you have faith in to have enough courage to support marijuana law reform. For example Ron Paul.
Please comment here and see what others are saying about the issue.
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Ron paul would have pushed for it mccain i dont think so I think it woulda been even less likely he would have if anything I think it would have made it worse having him in office. At least tolerence is out there now. Tolerence isnt acceptence though.
What you could do is do what I did go to NORML.com and check out the people in office or who are planning to in that list for your area and see who to vote for when its time its what I did Id idnt even know some of the names on there and that they were pro decrim etc and also on that some of the people I WOULD have filled in that dot for were AGAINST it
more often than not on those ballots you have to actually put in the persons name which I did and the way I got it was from NORML sorry to rant earlier lol :jointsmile:
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If it does become legal, I wonder how they will rectify all the lives they have destroyed? Kind of hard to admit the myths were false and politically motivated after all the destruction its caused. Time for a real change, get honest people elected to office. Not political parasites, fear mongers or shit-talkers. :smokin:
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Originally Posted by gypski
If it does become legal, I wonder how they will rectify all the lives they have destroyed? Kind of hard to admit the myths were false and politically motivated after all the destruction its caused. Time for a real change, get honest people elected to office. Not political parasites, fear mongers or shit-talkers. :smokin:
Its a good idea but look how long they took to apologize and make restitutions for anything theyve fucked up on. Its like trying to get family with one kid who broke somethin to say he did it. You know damn well he did it hes the only fucking kid in the house the problem is getting him to admit to it.
imagine all the poor folks back int he 70's and 80's who got like fucking 20 years and shit for just buying and smoking it we think we got it bad today but man...if ida been around back then id probably be in the pen until i was too old to give a shit about goin back just for tokin:wtf:
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Dude, he's already said he's stopping prosecuting legal mmj users in states that have such decriminalization laws. I guess it all just comes down to proper education and proof of concept. I saw a Law & Order as well as a Glee episode a few weeks ago when the news spread that they were advocating the use of mmj(well Glee didn't do it too well, kind of made fun of it). If I had to guess, this is just a trial run to see if there's any merit to decriminalizing/legalizing it and IF he does continue it will be later on in his term. Let's hope he does, afterall there's more non-violent mj users/dealers in prison than black people, at least in my state. Lol, not saying blacks should be arrested or anything.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/us/19holder.html
House bill pushes Pennsylvania to go green, legalize marijuana - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Arizona Medical Marijuana Policy Project, Sponsors of 2010 Medical Marijuana
etc...
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Originally Posted by zenneson
The pubic is getting less ignorant about marijuana and once the news of how it has and will benefit California's economy becomes well known. This subject will come up in a lot of political conversations. This will probably be followed by backing for legalization or decriminalization. The question is will Obama have the bravery to support it? Would have McCain?
Ganja Wise wants to know what you think.
good question. I voted for McCain. I figured Obama might be more herb friendly than McCain but really didn't have a whole lotta hope that either side would reschedule. The best I was hoping for was a good healthy respect of the US Constitution and States' Rights.
I never bought into all the Obama hype and voted against him in the general election, but I gotta say I was impressed when his administation announced that would no longer be busting the med coops in California. That was a victory I did not expect.
I think the real test will come next November when Californian's legalize thru the ballot box and, as provided by the Cali Constitution, legal bud for adults becomes the law of the land in California. :smokin: Obama's reaction to this event will be my litmus test for him. If he is cool with it all then I'm cool with him. Hell, I might even vote for him, and smoke one with him in Oaksterdam. :pimp:
but that said :rastasmoke:, he needs to reschedule, there is no excuse for him not to. it is his responsibility under the CSA. until Congress guts the CSA then it is his administrations job to make sure the drug schedules reflect reality.
it just occurred to me after I posted this, why is the CSA even constitutional?? I wonder if anyone has challenged the legality of it, you know giving the executive branch basically the ability to write law. seems kinda ass backwards to me. :twocents:
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IF California were to 'legalize' marijuana in the upcoming ballot initiative, Obama's Administration WILL strike it down ... Guaranteed :wtf: ... Eric Holder, with Obama's approval, would like to lock us all up (stoners don't contribute millions of dollars to campaign funds) ... do your homework ... :smokin:
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Originally Posted by the image reaper
IF California were to 'legalize' marijuana in the upcoming ballot initiative, Obama's Administration WILL strike it down ... Guaranteed :wtf: ... Eric Holder, with Obama's approval, would like to lock us all up (stoners don't contribute millions of dollars to campaign funds) ... do your homework ... :smokin:
I agree, stoners, or most don't contribute to campaigns. I believe all elections and all candidates get a set sum to run on. Once you've spent it you don't get anymore. Free speech isn't invoked with the power of money. Those with the money right now spread nothing but lies to get elected and we need honest representation. :cool:
I don't agree that the feds will stop legal marijuana if it passes in California. State's Rights and all the BS. Time for truth and honesty. :D
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Legalization ain't gonna happen, on the Federal level ... y'all gotta get out more, you can't get a feel for the popular opinions from a marijuana website :wtf: ... hell, yeah, everybody here, wants to see pot legalized :D ... that's a no-brainer ... try listening to the 'other sides' ... P.S. - the argument over "States' Rights", is not a legal precedent, it is a political debate ... and, since the Federal Government's Laws, override the States', it means nothing ... :wtf: ... here, this popped up in the news, just minutes ago:
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NorCal??s ??Pot Paradise?
December 8, 2009 - 12:00 PM | by: Claudia Cowan
Tucked amid the vast forestland of Northern California's Trinity County, the small town of Hayfork is - literally- going to pot...with marijuana being smoked, grown and sold more than ever before.
Legal cannabis cultivation has become Hayfork's #1 industry. Sophisticated growing operations --both indoors and outside--are flourishing, thanks to the regions climate, cheap real estate, and local laws allowing medical marijuana farming and possession.
Lawful or not, the cannabis culture is dividing the town.
Retirees, including many grandparents, say they've had it with the bad element that follows and exposes kids to the drug trade, from the buyers who come in with their foul language and poor hygiene, to the farmers who guard their crop with guns and attack dogs.
But with the timber industry gone, and gold mining a thing of the past, others maintain Hayfork's fledgling pot farms need all the support they can get.
Marijuana advocates argue the town is in dire need of an industry that can provide tax dollars and jobs.
But many question the wisdom of an economy based on pot profits... And worry about the impact on the town's youth.
Schools superintendent Tom Barnett says he already sees one disturbing trend: graduating seniors-- skipping college, career training programs, and even travel, to stay put-- and grow pot.
-Claudia Cowan, Hayfork, California
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see what I'm talkin' about ? :smokin:
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Originally Posted by the image reaper
IF California were to 'legalize' marijuana in the upcoming ballot initiative, Obama's Administration WILL strike it down ... Guaranteed :wtf: ... Eric Holder, with Obama's approval, would like to lock us all up (stoners don't contribute millions of dollars to campaign funds) ... do your homework ... :smokin:
you don't know that for sure. That is your guess. Did you predict Holder would back off the coops? You may be right, but I say time will tell. I am not going to try to predict how they will react, but States Rights is no pipe dream, read the ninth and tenth amendments to the Constitution. :smokin:
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^ didn't mean to sound so rude IR. i should never post until after a bowl or two. :jointsmile: :stoned:
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Congress allows DC to implement 1998 medical marijuana law
Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:35:15 By: Russ Belville, NORML Outreach Coordinator
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House and Senate negotiations for the 2010 Appropriations bill have been completed. This is the huge federal budget bill and it just so happens that Washington DC is a federal district and its spending is controlled by Congress.
In 1998, DC passed a medical marijuana bill overwhelmingly, but Congressional drug warriors led by Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia prevented DC from spending any federal money to count the votes (that??s right, in our democracy??s capital, our leaders conspired to prevent citizens from counting votes in a legal election). When that was deemed unconstitutional, they spent the money to count the votes, showing that 69% of DC supported medical marijuana. So Rep. Barr created the ??Barr Amendment? that prevented DC from spending any money to implement the medical marijuana program they had voted in.
Well, today??s 2010 Appropriations bill changes all that. In addition to removing bans on abortion, domestic partnerships, and needle exchange, Congress has given the go-ahead to begin implementing DC medical marijuana!
(US Senate) Removing Special Restrictions on the District of Columbia: Eliminates a prohibition on the use of local tax funds for abortion, thereby putting the District in the same position as the 50 states. Also allows the District to implement a referendum on use of marijuana for medical purposes as has been done in other states, allows use of Federal funds for needle exchange programs except in locations considered inappropriate by District authorities, and discontinues a ban on the use of funds in the bill for domestic partnership registration and benefits.
DC??s medical marijuana bill was written with the same sort of open language as was passed in California? will we be seeing marijuana dispensaries on K Street anytime soon?
This surprised the shit out of me
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The Obama administration has already told the DEA to lay off patients and care givers. They are only going after traffickers.
It's amazing how uninformed some of you republicans are.
U.S. attorneys told to go after pot traffickers, not patients - CNN.com
My Way News - Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy
Justice Department: Will Not Pursue Medical Marijuana Where Legal | Cogent Nirvana
Federal government won't target medical marijuana patients or suppliers in states where it's legal | News from The Post-Standard -
I could post a hundred links.
All you republican A-holes out there slamming the Obama administration - I want you to THINK about this for a second. Use your own brain (if you have one) and don't let Rush Limpdick do your thinking FOR you........
It was already legal in MANY states while Bush was in office. But nobody wanted to take the risk.
It took a DEMOCRAT in the White House to make ALL of you comfortable enough to actually even DISCUSS this subject in open forums. It took a DEMOCRAT to LESSen the pressure from the Feds and allow you to HAVE the personal FREEDOMS that all you stupid republicans are always bitching about.
You bunch of dumb fukkers!!
The republicans wouldn't allow you those personal freedoms -- would they?!?!? :mad:
The republicans went full speed ahead and prosecuted every patient, caregiver and grower they could catch. They would not allow the citizens of this country the personal freedoms we VOTED on.
Now a Democrat takes office and shows promise. He tells the Feds to relax a bit about MMJ.
And you stupid fukkers have the nerve to come here and bash him for it?
:S4: Stupid fucking republicans. Grow a brain!!
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Originally Posted by Markass
...DC??s medical marijuana bill was written with the same sort of open language as was passed in California? will we be seeing marijuana dispensaries on K Street anytime soon?
This surprised the shit out of me
holy shite! that surprises me too! that is too cool, tip for the President and all other DC residence . . plant outdoor herbs right before the last frost to help germinate. :greenthumb:
its funny I was just looking at this map below and the other day and thinking we need a green dot for Washington DC. :) now if we could just get Oklahoma to even a light green that would be great, fully mature bud green would be even better :jointsmile:. . .
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^ didn't mean to sound so rude IR. i should never post until after a bowl or two. :jointsmile: :stoned:
:D no offense taken, my friend :thumbsup: ... you're correct, anyway, it IS only my opinion ... I tend to be the Devil's Advocate on legalization, etc., because I've been watching our battles for so many decades ... I'm pretty jaded, and adhere to the 'follow the money' principle: " too many people making tons of money BECAUSE pot is illegal " ... I gotta stick with what I've seen, and I still say legalization ain't gonna happen, on the Federal level ... Obama/Holder's weakass speeches, did NOT change ONE single law ... (I'm surprised the democrats didn't notice that :D) ... have a wonderful Christmas :thumbsup:
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'Puffer Lungs', you are just plain RUDE :wtf: ... grow up a bit :smokin:
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I consider myself neither, but I can tell you one thing, there's a democrat in the white house spending my social security into oblivion right now, and then TONS...if you think any of what obama's doing is going to help this country, you're the dumb one...
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:D no offense taken, my friend :thumbsup: ...... have a wonderful Christmas :thumbsup:
cool. you have a very Merry Christmas, too, my friend. ho ho ho :jointsmile:
totally off topic, but I's just gots to know :rastasmoke: I seem to remember someone saying something about some strain that you had developed, grampas purps or something like that, did I just imagine that? :stoned: if not, whats the story. :pimp:
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cool. you have a very Merry Christmas, too, my friend. ho ho ho :jointsmile:
totally off topic, but I's just gots to know :rastasmoke: I seem to remember someone saying something about some strain that you had developed, grampas purps or something like that, did I just imagine that? :stoned: if not, whats the story. :pimp:
likely it was my 'NorCal Daddy's Girl' strain, mentioned around here ... she was the result of a LOT of luck, I was in the 'right place at the right time' :D
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Originally Posted by Markass
I consider myself neither, but I can tell you one thing, there's a democrat in the white house spending my social security into oblivion right now, and then TONS...if you think any of what obama's doing is going to help this country, you're the dumb one...
And just WHY is Obama spending all that money?
You got fucking amnesia or something? :wtf:
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^ just because a lot of us on here cannot stomach Dems doesn't mean we are Repubs. In Oklahoma, we have a Democratic Governor and State Legislature, but tend to send Republicans to the US Congress, because, to be honest, the Dems at the national level are just bat shit crazy. :jointsmile: as are the Repubs, mostly . . . . mostly. :D We would likely send third party canidates like Libertarians if that were an option here but I don't think it is. yet. :jointsmile:
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you worded that beautifully, Boaz :D
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^ why thank you, sir. i credit the weed. :D and Alien reruns :stoned: Nor Cal Daddy's girls, eh, yes, I remember the name now. I really need to come visit my friends out there sometime, its been waaayyyy too long. Its probably not 23 degrees out there either. :D
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After banning flavored rolling papers and tobacco; passing laws restricting the sale of clove cigarettes, etc......I am supremely confident that Obama has no ambition to legalize.
What I am hoping for is that in the next 10 years or so, younger generations will be old enough to run for political positions. I think that in the next decade, marijuana will become decriminalized and/or legalized because of the increasing number of 420 friendly politicians. Just my .02
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'Puffer Lungs', you are just plain RUDE :wtf: ... grow up a bit :smokin:
Fuck you man!
You're a hard core republican. It's obvious from the rest of your posts. Anytime a Democrat doesn't agree with the warped views of a republican - the republican always goes on the attack.
:S4:
You don't fool me with your veiled sincerity. None of you do. Been around too many republicans in my life to be fooled by the likes of you. Douche Bag republican. :S4:
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Originally Posted by the image reaper
Legalization ain't gonna happen, on the Federal level ... y'all gotta get out more, you can't get a feel for the popular opinions from a marijuana website :wtf: ... hell, yeah, everybody here, wants to see pot legalized :D ... that's a no-brainer ... try listening to the 'other sides' ... P.S. - the argument over "States' Rights", is not a legal precedent, it is a political debate ... and, since the Federal Government's Laws, override the States', it means nothing ... :wtf: ... here, this popped up in the news, just minutes ago:
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NorCal??s ??Pot Paradise?
December 8, 2009 - 12:00 PM | by: Claudia Cowan
Tucked amid the vast forestland of Northern California's Trinity County, the small town of Hayfork is - literally- going to pot...with marijuana being smoked, grown and sold more than ever before.
Legal cannabis cultivation has become Hayfork's #1 industry. Sophisticated growing operations --both indoors and outside--are flourishing, thanks to the regions climate, cheap real estate, and local laws allowing medical marijuana farming and possession.
Lawful or not, the cannabis culture is dividing the town.
Retirees, including many grandparents, say they've had it with the bad element that follows and exposes kids to the drug trade, from the buyers who come in with their foul language and poor hygiene, to the farmers who guard their crop with guns and attack dogs.
But with the timber industry gone, and gold mining a thing of the past, others maintain Hayfork's fledgling pot farms need all the support they can get.
Marijuana advocates argue the town is in dire need of an industry that can provide tax dollars and jobs.
But many question the wisdom of an economy based on pot profits... And worry about the impact on the town's youth.
Schools superintendent Tom Barnett says he already sees one disturbing trend: graduating seniors-- skipping college, career training programs, and even travel, to stay put-- and grow pot.
-Claudia Cowan, Hayfork, California
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see what I'm talkin' about ? :smokin:
"Schools superintendent Tom Barnett says he already sees one disturbing trend: graduating seniors-- skipping college, career training programs, and even travel, to stay put-- and grow pot."
I wish people like that would put a joint in their mouth and shut up. Its like sayin everyone who drinks alcohol is gonna drink and drive, have cirhosis of the liver, and play their rock n roll too loud :wtf:
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sure he will...............
as soon as he fixes the govt, healthcare and the economy!!!
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The way i see it is, within the next 4-12 years cannabis will become legalized. Because the generation that truly hates the idea of pot smoking, to be frank is almost dead. It sounds bad i know, but it is true. In the past 3 years i have been smoking pot (only 18) i've notice that it's been a hell of a lot easier to get cannabis and cops don't care as much lately. But honestly who knows?
I know one thing is for sure whether it's legal or not i'm still gonna smoke it. Nothing is going to stop me from smoking my weed damnit.:jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by PufferLungs
...You don't fool me with your veiled sincerity. None of you do. ...:
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yeah its a slap on the wrist these days instead of back in the 70s n such man I think back then I woulda NOT smoked it...hard jail time for just smoking up which was retarded:mad:
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Originally Posted by hachiman6677
"Schools superintendent Tom Barnett says he already sees one disturbing trend: graduating seniors-- skipping college, career training programs, and even travel, to stay put-- and grow pot."
I wish people like that would put a joint in their mouth and shut up. Its like sayin everyone who drinks alcohol is gonna drink and drive, have cirhosis of the liver, and play their rock n roll too loud :wtf:
and have foul language and poor hygiene :jointsmile: I wasn't going to say anything, since I don't live in Cali anymore but reading that article my thought was what is wrong young people wanting to stay in their home town and partake in the local industry that just happens to be doing well at the moment. sounds like the American dream to me. every town should be so lucky. :twocents: but I could understand not wanting a bunch of outsiders coming in.
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And just WHY is Obama spending all that money?
You got fucking amnesia or something? :wtf:
Because he apparently has no financial understanding and has always paid off one credit card with another??
Maybe you should smoke one...You're a rude little bastard, btw..just in case noone else has ever told you that, but I'm sure they have.
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for the record, not that it matters, I am currently registered as a Republican, but don't necessarily vote that way, seldom, in fact ... matter of fact, in 2008, I voted for the black candidate, Alan Keyes, NOT McCain (never, McCain) ... and, I was a lifelong Democrat for many years (actually voted twice for that idiot, Jimmy Carter - talk about wishing you could do things over :D) ... but, I left the Democrat Party, when I realized it had left me, and become an Ultra-Liberal Socialist organization ... and, a rude punk, is always just a rude punk ... :smokin:
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for the record, not that it matters, I am currently registered as a Republican, but don't necessarily vote that way, seldom, in fact ... matter of fact, in 2008, I voted for the black candidate, Alan Keyes, NOT McCain (never, McCain) ... and, I was a lifelong Democrat for many years (actually voted twice for that idiot, Jimmy Carter - talk about wishing you could do things over :D) ... but, I left the Democrat Party, when I realized it had left me, and become an Ultra-Liberal Socialist organization ... and, a rude punk, is always just a rude punk ... :smokin:
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no wonder why I stay in the Hydro section, ......... there are some outright rude arses around here. I go back and play in the water.
Oh and my 2 cents worth is as soon as they can fool the american public into thinking that the government can make money by taxing the sale of cannabis to save the country from being completely broke is when they will legalize it :jointsmile: