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Preserving flavor when drying buds
Who has some good information on preserving the flavor of the buds when drying. All the buds smell awesome when they reach maturity but many lose most of their flavor when dried. I have tried leaving the buds on the plant without trimming, trimming before drying and partial trimming. The results don't seem to show the affects of the different drying methods. The afghan goo and white widow taste great but the dj short blueberry seems to have lost a majority of its flavor. The bliss smelled and looked funky yet turned out to be tasty and very stony.
If you have specific information on preserving the flavonoids or whatever they are called please pass it along.:bong:
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
I always get the best taste just by curing them in a glass jar. Before they are bone dry put them in a jar for up to a day at a time, let it dry a little, then back in the jar. So, about a week of initial drying, then 2 weeks of jar treatment before its permanently delicious.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
Thanks for the information. I can still give this a try for some late bloomers. I will update the forum when I have the results. I just hope I can keep all that good flavor from just drifting away.:rastasmoke:
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by achilles
I always get the best taste just by curing them in a glass jar. Before they are bone dry put them in a jar for up to a day at a time, let it dry a little, then back in the jar. So, about a week of initial drying, then 2 weeks of jar treatment before its permanently delicious.
Sorry for my inexperience but maybe I can get a few more specific details. When you say "before they are bone dry" do you mean barely dry enough to smoke, a little drier or not quite that dry? Also when you say "let it dry a little, then back in the jar" is that usually about another day or what approximately?
Thanks for any advice.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
dry for a week until the buds feel crispy and the stems break with a lil "snap".. trim it all up and put it in a SEALED glass jar for 24 hours. Every day for the next week or so open the jar or dump your buds on the table for 10-15 min or until SLIGHTLY cripsy then put them back in the jar and reseal. If you don't have pounds just leave it in the jar. just make sure its not packed in and the buds are lightly stacked and have room to breath. You will notice the buds drawing moisture from inside out as you open and close each day and this will extract and preserve flavor.. good luck and enjoy!
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
honestly, i hate curing in jars. the weed ends up tastin and smellin like hay!! I cure in paper bags and have been doin it for years. The paper holds some moisture in but also releases through the bag. so your bud is not just chillin in humid ass air until you get to yer jar and open it up. Probly twice a day while in the paper bag open it and let new air in and shake the bag around to mix all the nugs around then fold it back closed. You can pretty much leave it in the bag until its the way you want it.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by PurpleMeds
honestly, i hate curing in jars. the weed ends up tastin and smellin like hay!! I cure in paper bags and have been doin it for years. The paper holds some moisture in but also releases through the bag. so your bud is not just chillin in humid ass air until you get to yer jar and open it up. Probly twice a day while in the paper bag open it and let new air in and shake the bag around to mix all the nugs around then fold it back closed. You can pretty much leave it in the bag until its the way you want it.
I use bags but with a lot more care and less intensity. I'm thinkin too many trichomes can get snagged up in the bag otherwise.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
ive always wire racked in a humidity controlled environment, and seems like i loose very little of the aroma or flavor...LOL....dehumidifiers work great in your drying room
if you dont have alot to do, dry ice in the freezer works good and seems to preserve the flavor and aroma pretty damn good to me.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by leadmagnet
I use bags but with a lot more care and less intensity. I'm thinkin too many trichomes can get snagged up in the bag otherwise.
not quite sure what you mean by a lot more care and less intensity.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by PurpleMeds
not quite sure what you mean by a lot more care and less intensity.
Part of my curing process doesn't involve slappin the crap out of my buds in brown paper bags. Paper bags work well but one should be gentle about it.
Unless of course what you're interested in is an early stage of collecting kief or such I suppose.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by leadmagnet
Part of my curing process doesn't involve slappin the crap out of my buds in brown paper bags. Paper bags work well but one should be gentle about it.
Unless of course what you're interested in is an early stage of collecting kief or such I suppose.
Be smart use a jar and by all means don't listen to this guy he don't grow or cure buds
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
I will join the brown paper bag fan club. My routine is cut the stem and trim the buds immediately. If you let it dry first some of them nasty old leaves will draw back into the bud. Stick it nose down in the grocery sack and give it a few days then move over to the glass jar and burping daily routine. I have space constraints. No place to hang limbs in a dark room. Not sure why so much concern about taste. Reasonable folks is just looking for something to kick them in the ass. Let's get real here.
Goober
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
Done both ways.
Gets too dry for me in the paper bag. I like to keep my weed about as moist as high quality tobacco. No where near as harsh.....When it gets really dry, I make hash or butter, or hash butter.
I do notice, in the sealed containers, some species do smell like hay. Oh well, it kicks the shit outta me if I cure it right.
Before anyone goes off on a method you need to understand the process going on. When the plant is killed it still has sugars flowing in the vascular system. The sugars make the weed harsh, give the smell it's character, and need to convert completely into the THC, CBN, and CBD.
My taste buds are dead, so not sure of flavor anymore. Now and then.
So my method. Lay nuggets in wire basket for about a week....note I said about. Relative humidity, air movement, etc, have great effect on how long this all takes. When it gets 'crispy' move to the container. Use care to not waste a bunch of trichomes. If it seems it is getting too moist in the jar unseal it and let the lid sit part way open for a day, then dump it out and 'turn' it in the jar and continue the process.
I do not use any weed for 2 weeks after murder, and I have found a couple species that actually are better 3 weeks into the cure.
Everyone has a process, each to their own, but in my book the quality of the medication is much more important that the taste or smell. I eat most of it anyhow. Smoke is bad for the lungs, ask a firefighter
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
your flavor comes from the grow not the cure, some strains are bland some are pungent. it doesnt matter if i cure good or dry the shit in my oven its still has better flavor and high then anything from the dispenary.
with that being said in this mmj environment f1 crosses are bland and it depends who the cut comes from.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by leadmagnet
Part of my curing process doesn't involve slappin the crap out of my buds in brown paper bags. Paper bags work well but one should be gentle about it.
Unless of course what you're interested in is an early stage of collecting kief or such I suppose.
well I guess if one grows mediocre medicine then I guess there would be a major concern to make sure every trichome stays attached. with my grows and the technique of curing i use there are no adverse affects to my medicine. Give it the love while growing, and something as minor as putting it in a paper bag and shake it so air can get between buds so no mold starts to grow, will not change the quality of the medicine. also you must let it hang and get crispy before you even throw it in the bag. :smokin: But whatever works for you, go head and do that. This is YOUR medicine, make it and take it as you like!! I was simply adding my 2 cents on how I keep my flavor and smell. That works best for me!
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by Micsog
Be smart use a jar and by all means don't listen to this guy he don't grow or cure buds
Son, I suspect I was growin weed when you were still crappin yer diapers. I also use jars in the second stage, want me to explain??? Or am I just a silly old poophead who don't know nothin in yer opinion? If so, just forget I said anything.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by Goober328
I will join the brown paper bag fan club. My routine is cut the stem and trim the buds immediately. If you let it dry first some of them nasty old leaves will draw back into the bud. Stick it nose down in the grocery sack and give it a few days then move over to the glass jar and burping daily routine. I have space constraints. No place to hang limbs in a dark room. Not sure why so much concern about taste. Reasonable folks is just looking for something to kick them in the ass. Let's get real here.
Goober
Exactly, bro. Although I tend to disagree with you about taste. That's important too!
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by PurpleMeds
well I guess if one grows mediocre medicine then I guess there would be a major concern to make sure every trichome stays attached. with my grows and the technique of curing i use there are no adverse affects to my medicine. Give it the love while growing, and something as minor as putting it in a paper bag and shake it so air can get between buds so no mold starts to grow, will not change the quality of the medicine. also you must let it hang and get crispy before you even throw it in the bag. :smokin: But whatever works for you, go head and do that. This is YOUR medicine, make it and take it as you like!! I was simply adding my 2 cents on how I keep my flavor and smell. That works best for me!
Well, I wasn't accusing YOU of slappin the crap out of yer buds, I was just sayin...
Anyways, mediocre or not I'm not wasting trchomes by being brutal about it. I also live in a VERY low humidity area so hangin on a wire isn't that important although if I had the room I'd probably do so briefly.
(Opps, sorry about triple posts).
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
the idea of "curing" was designed to eliminating the chlorophyll from the buds,however you achieve this is up to you, BUT ,that "hay" smell you get is the chlorophyll gassing off, I assume it is water soluble , as it diminishes the fragrance of the Cannabis will come back. It's called patience, a real bitch when you have waited so long for some homegrown.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder
Done both ways.
Gets too dry for me in the paper bag. I like to keep my weed about as moist as high quality tobacco. No where near as harsh.....When it gets really dry, I make hash or butter, or hash butter.
I do notice, in the sealed containers, some species do smell like hay. Oh well, it kicks the shit outta me if I cure it right.
Before anyone goes off on a method you need to understand the process going on. When the plant is killed it still has sugars flowing in the vascular system. The sugars make the weed harsh, give the smell it's character, and need to convert completely into the THC, CBN, and CBD.
My taste buds are dead, so not sure of flavor anymore. Now and then.
So my method. Lay nuggets in wire basket for about a week....note I said about. Relative humidity, air movement, etc, have great effect on how long this all takes. When it gets 'crispy' move to the container. Use care to not waste a bunch of trichomes. If it seems it is getting too moist in the jar unseal it and let the lid sit part way open for a day, then dump it out and 'turn' it in the jar and continue the process.
I do not use any weed for 2 weeks after murder, and I have found a couple species that actually are better 3 weeks into the cure.
Everyone has a process, each to their own, but in my book the quality of the medication is much more important that the taste or smell. I eat most of it anyhow. Smoke is bad for the lungs, ask a firefighter
you hit alot of stuff spot on but in my book taste and smell all matter very much on quality. im not going to do all the hard work and then half a$$ the last two or three weeks.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by LLLou2
the idea of "curing" was designed to eliminating the chlorophyll from the buds,however you achieve this is up to you, BUT ,that "hay" smell you get is the chlorophyll gassing off, I assume it is water soluble , as it diminishes the fragrance of the Cannabis will come back. It's called patience, a real bitch when you have waited so long for some homegrown.
Thanks, I learned why the smell comes back later, never knew that.!
Smell and taste are important if you consume it in a manner that gets those qualities. When I was younger and recreational, that was the most important. Remember REAL Thai sticks?
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
I like suspending mine in a dark rooom for about 4-5 days, then trim them down. And mason jar it is for at least 2 weeks!
Hay smell, but a hint of pine, love the forest!
:thumbsup:
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
yeah it must be dark for the first couple of days
and cooler is better and
if you jar dry they dont smell cause your not breaking any trichs after the jar is dry put them in a baggy and smash it up like a drug dealer would and it will stink the way you want it too
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
"if you jar dry they dont smell cause your not breaking any trichs after the jar is dry put them in a baggy and smash it up like a drug dealer would and it will stink the way you want it too"
I don't understand ,why would you want to knock off the Trichomes ?
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
i dont want to, but when trichs break the smells get released i guess had two oz in jar and it didnt smell put itin baggies and back in jar and wreaked to high heaven
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
Dry em for a week. Bag em for 3 days n jar em for 5. And u got tht smell n taste. Oh yeah a decent flush helps
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
Honestly my blueberry didnt smell good for the first 2 and a half weeks after I jarred them. They dryed up in a week nd a half max,then after the first 3 weeks in jars that familiar thick pungent fruity smell was back hahaha. now whenever i open the big persy jar it's in,the upstairs slowly starts to stink of blueberry and skunks
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
Thanks for wading in with the excellent suggestions. Sorry I have not thanked the forum sooner but I am off the grid most of the year.
I would need a lot of jars or some really large jars to follow the jar method. Just the few in my yard will be several pounds. Will an oven bag work as well as a jar. I was thinking of trying one of the jar methods suggested but just one blue dream plant is way too much to use jars. Can anyone think of any reason the oven bag would be bad.:smokin:
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
use a barrel ,get it from a feed/ag store,i use cherry barrels here and there only 20 buds ,oops bucks!:D
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by rudy2010
Thanks for wading in with the excellent suggestions. Sorry I have not thanked the forum sooner but I am off the grid most of the year.
I would need a lot of jars or some really large jars to follow the jar method. Just the few in my yard will be several pounds. Will an oven bag work as well as a jar. I was thinking of trying one of the jar methods suggested but just one blue dream plant is way too much to use jars. Can anyone think of any reason the oven bag would be bad.:smokin:
Rudy, bring that over here and Ill jar it up for yea:rastasmoke: No problem:D
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
It all about the taste and smell for me, and of course the high. But I really enjoy that taste and smell. kinda like a good micro brew..
I trim most of the leaf then suspending mine in a dark room for about 4-5 days, then a final trim, and off to the mason jar.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
I have been buying dozens of mason jars. The folks at the store keep commenting on all the "canning" I am doing. I guess it is not too suspicious to go buy all the jars the store has. I have 4 dozen and need many more. I will go see if the store has restocked today. I need to get this stuff out of bags where it just continues to get drier and drier.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
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Originally Posted by rudy2010
I have been buying dozens of mason jars. The folks at the store keep commenting on all the "canning" I am doing. I guess it is not too suspicious to go buy all the jars the store has. I have 4 dozen and need many more. I will go see if the store has restocked today. I need to get this stuff out of bags where it just continues to get drier and drier.
Hit up the Salvation Army and Thrift stores, they always have them and they are dirt cheep. Oh and ya gotta have that taste and thats half of the reason im looking for tasty strains to make my own personal stanky fire weed. Lets just hope it turns out that way in the end as im having issues with curing this grow. Not sure if its because its way more or i put it in jars too early. Smells musty, sucks:wtf:. Iv put fresh buds in, but the weed just pulls out all the moisture from it and i cant even find it the next day. Im going to try an orange peel in the jar over night to see if i can get it more moist, then bag it. If anyone has any other ideas id luv to here em, thanks.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
WINCO Foods has Mason Jars qt size for under $7 a case. Nice sealing tops too. :thumbsup: :jointsmile:
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
I hang my harvest in a dark space with some air circulation for a week to ten days. Then I do the trimming. After I separate the buds from the leaves and stems I store them in glass jars. Sweet!
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
When I was trimming it, it smelled great but after some time in the jar is has a barnyard smell and the smoke is harsh and has a white pepper finish, yuck. I'm hoping it gets better.
Anyone else out there with a Harborside cut of God Bud have a smoke report?
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
i suspend my cuttings from wire zig zagging through the grow room intake i have modified out of a file cabinet . the bottom drawer has been sealed and modified to channel the air to the grow room. i just open the drawer and hang the buds from the wires. i have screening covering the bottom of the drawer i removed the floor of the drawer for better circ. its nice and dark and can easily be monitored. then it goes into mason jars.
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
Not saying one way is better than the other, but my last grow of AK47af lowriders tasted freakin'great!
What I did was I flushed a week in advance of killing, then trimmed before drying in a cardboard box.
( I have a pc fan mounted on the box to help the drying and to help eliminate bud rot)
After about 4 days I cut off the large stems and dryed the buds for an additional 6 days or so.
I made sure that the small stems snapped when bent.
Next I cured in mason jars and burped the jars two or three times a day for about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.
I kept the jars in complete darkness.
Not once did I experience a "hay" taste or any harshness. I am very conservative so I use a small pipe
and every hit had the most incredible sweet taste. Kinda reminded me of the old Blonde Lebanese Hash days.
Maybe it was the strain I used, I dont know, but I savored every tasty hit.
I grew in a large wooden box lined with polyshield underlayment, a fan, cfls, and MG, so it deffinetly
wasnt my growing expertise that produced such a great taste.
Next grow I'm doing more AK47af lowriders and using HPS, and better soil.
..I cant wait to taste THAT batch! :thumbsup:
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Preserving flavor when drying buds
I think the barn yard flavor comes if you put the buds in jars too early or not burping them enough to let the gas's escape. The hole reason for putting them in jars is to pull out the gas isn't it to get that nice sweet taste and not hay. I have 4 jars that smell bad, but snap it in half and the smell is there and 3 hits of Edna made me pass out last night. But this was the end of the outdoor and haven't tried it yet, but was getting good smoke reports from others so i thought id try it. Well anyone know who was kicked of Surviver?
I hope to dry the last of it better this time damn. I wonder if i put it in baggies it would help its been in jars for close to 40days. But as of late iv just left the lids off to get rid of the stench, think i should bag it in plastic for a day or two?
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