And it's dufus leader Al Gore. Purely about profits and control.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...nt/03gore.html
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And it's dufus leader Al Gore. Purely about profits and control.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...nt/03gore.html
yup, there's a sucker born every minute, and always somebody with their hand out, ready to profit from it ... good post :thumbsup:
i think most people now realise that Global warming is a load of BS.
They can't even get the freaking weather right for tomorrow yet we are suppost to believe Florida will be under water any minute now because we drive cars?
Here in the states the green movement is nothing more than a wing of the far left socialist half of the Democrat Party. They should be purged outta the Dem Party to form an accurate socialist party and Obama can be it's CEO along with the SEIU.
Im all for energy independence, hybrids, and doing things in a low impact manner.
I think the problem is deeper then just driving cars. We have had glaciers in the North Artic for thousands and thousands of years, and they are predicted to be gone in the summer months 25-30 years from now. I think we have contributed to the warming of the Earth. I mean, it only seems logical if more gas is released into the atmosphere then what is naturally supposed to occur. If I fill a bowl of water with water already in it, it is going to eventually over fill itself. That's just my 2 cents :)
there is no scientific evidence to back up a ridiculous claim like that.....glaciers recede and get bigger. Greenland has receded yet the glaciers in Antarctica have expanded. 25 or 30 years????? C'mon now, you sound like a Gorebot.
Gordon Brown claimed the world would see chaos from Global Warming in 10 years....Al Gore has 6 years left before his doomsday scenerio is supposed to take effect.
Green movement is a socialist movement meant to increase Govt. control of the individuals. Liberals would reach in to your house and turn up the AC and turn down your shower if they could. What side is the the big brotheresque side? It aint the RIGHT (which is cant stand) ive learned this past year....Its the Left no doubt.
Oh.....and 2012 is the end of the world. Odd how the Mayans couldn't predict their own demise yet they know when the world will end. Snore.
;)so trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
The mayan calander is a recurring one it doesnt predict the end of the world:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Thank you Dr. Jones..........anyone buying into that BS is a bloomin idiot who creates these doomsday scenerios to compensate for their lack of intelligence and knowledge of the way the world works.....in fucking cycles.
The Global Warming HOAX is completely fabricated for the purpose of creating profits where they didnt exist before. Not real.......totals scam
However on a great news front............The Copenhagen treaty is on it's way outta popularity thank god. Got put off this afternoon. This green garbage got so trendy....like homosexuality and bi sexuality in the 90's. It's old and boring now.
Dude, i didnt read the post above me, but your a thread master!!! :haha:
EDIT: i posted and then read the post above me. I believe the global warming thing is feasible, i mean possible. I dont care if somebody called it global warming, or the matter that their is billions of tons of co2 or w/e it is being polluted to the air everyday. When im stitting in traffic in houston. i'll think about it, like damn i mean you can basically see it. Hilo colorado and a motorcycle. WOO HOO!!!! Must save money.:wtf:
Global warming was created to play on peoples emotions.....the Earth regulates itself like everything else.... in cycles. In the middle ages there was a warming trend way worse than the one from the 90's. Now....we are in a cooling trend again and this will go on and on and on. People created this to dupe the folks who don't pay attention to actual numbers and trends. The green movement is simply a FRONT FOR A SOCIALIST IDEOLOGY, nothing more.
Drill here, drill now
You are aguing against a massive amount of evidence and against qualified climate scientists, y'know the same sort of scientists that created the computer that you are 'debating' via.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Good luck with your seafront property
and there are JUST as many climatoligists and scientists who say it's pure rubbish...its a naturally occuring cycle. We have a hybrid in my family...we recycle..we turn off the lights when we leave. But not cause manmade CO2 is killing mother earth I promise....how laughable. The 'green movement' is a socialist front....with control and $$$$ in mind. Keep buying into it if you want.....no skin off my nose....but you will start feeling it in ur wallets soon if ya havent already.
the green movement is bullshit but man made global warming is likely real.
the atmosphere cannot process co2 and other pollutants fast enough. it's simple chemistry not a global conspiracy. tree rings, soil samples, ice cores and many other markers of time show that this current cycle is out of whack compared to the past.
know what causes drastic climate changes? large volcanic eruptions. consider the pollutants that are spewed into the air as one long eruption minus the massive number of particulates that block out heat and light.
and don't give me that al gore crap. the guy is a fraud and a phony. global warming is real. should i do all that crap al gore wants me to? hell no. anyways, i'm quite sure mother nature will find a way to cleanse itself of the human virus before the planet dies and the hippies cry.
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Originally Posted by Delta9 UK
LMAO......as a matter of fact....Breaking new from the BBC today
BBC News - Hackers target leading climate research unit
and low and behold....here is a taste of the hacked and released emails stolen.
Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released « Watts Up With That?
This will be HUGE news in a day or two.......they are cooking the books.....you believers are being DUPED....WAKE UP. This is about making money....nothing else. WAKE UP...the earth is fine...we should do all we can but these people are lying about global warming
:wtf:the media will give it a glanceing look over for a day or two.Then let it die out:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
Yea your right....they will ignore it. But there goes one group of scientists caught admitting they are full of shit.
the media will ignore it...your right about that. Scary.
I was just about to post that link, just logged-in to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
This story will be epic - I doubt it will blow over and I'm going to follow it very closely indeed.
If it is true (which I think it is) then this is a shitty day for science.
I dont know....I think the other guy is probably right and it wont get as much attention as it deserves. However.....this should add to people's skeptism of what it is they are selling. I really hope our European bros & sis see this stuff and begin applying pressure to their governments to immediatley withdraw from the Copenhagen Treaty which is now stalled. Rise up. (spelling?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta9 UK
I DO agree that we should all seek energy independence and alternative fuels...we should also begin immediate low impact building. Limiting the size of tv's and taxing people by how far they drive does NOTHING to help....NOTHING.
It's kind of sad I was able to look at the graphs that were available and call bullshit on this years ago. And I slept through most of high school science. It makes me want to look through the forums and see exactly who the people were who thought we who saw through the smokescreen were the morons. Gullible people...
If Cap n' Trade is passed after this, there is something seriously wrong with our nation. Than again it didn't stop Obama from continuing to talk about the need for climate reform even after ClimateGate.
And now we see an example of why hackers are good for the global community. Someone had to break the law to get at the truth.
Al Gore will now be laughed off the public stage for being such a phoney.
I do agree that the Gorebot's are full of shit, but the green act is not all about just stopping global warming. Its about cutting back all together. And to put it in an even simpler statement, its about not being so ignorant and using so much energy. Now, even though people here use TONS of energy, rather saying stopping it all together, the green movement is more towards using more efficient light sources and fixtures. Honestly the MOST green thing to do would be to have a greenhouse to grow in, but due to not everyone having their MMJ card, that is not possible yet. But rather than saying what we do is horrible and we are going to ruin everything by poisoning the world, thats all BS. LEED, the major green movement/organization in architecture, is not about stopping to do everything, but just to do so more energy efficiently. Not using stuff that uses unneeded(looks so weird spelled out) energy when there are much more energy efficient devices. I'm rambling and am really high so let me stop this, but just think, now a days, it cost just as much to build to LEED Silver rating as it does to build inefficiently/traditionally.
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[quote=ForgetClassC]I do agree that the Gorebot's are full of shit, but the green act is not all about just stopping global warming. Its about cutting back all together. And to put it in an even simpler statement, its about not being so ignorant and using so much energy. Now, even though people here use TONS of energy, rather saying stopping it all together, the green movement is more towards using more efficient light sources and fixtures. Honestly the MOST green thing to do would be to have a greenhouse to grow in, but due to not everyone having their MMJ card, that is not possible yet. But rather than saying what we do is horrible and we are going to ruin everything by poisoning the world, thats all BS. LEED, the major green movement/organization in architecture, is not about stopping to do everything, but just to do so more energy efficiently. Not using stuff that uses unneeded(looks so weird spelled out) energy when there are much more energy efficient devices. I'm rambling and am really high so let me stop this, but just think, now a days, it cost just as much to build to LEED Silver rating as it does to build inefficiently/traditionally.
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That seems like something I could get behind......Im VERY interested in the low impact, off the grid building thats popping up too. Its just so damn expensive....
Well the story did get a ton of media....except the new york times which refused to report it because the emails were hacked...but have no problem outting CIA agents and operations.
Even so....Obama and Pelosi continue to push economy killing cap and trade for the cause of a man-made hoax.......2010.
MP's already resigning in Australia.....
Climategate: five Aussie MPs lead the way by resigning in disgust over carbon tax – Telegraph Blogs
I wonder if those mainstream writers who suggested global warming naysayers should be imprisoned will be looking over their shoulders for awhile? I would.
Well the story did catch on.....gotta love it......global warming finally getting the attention it deserves......as a HOAX:jointsmile:
Climate Change Emails Reveal Rigged 'Consensus' - WSJ.com
I agree that we should still try to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels even if global warming is bullshit. Which I don't think it is. Everyone probably got too ahead of themselves and got a little paranoid, but I still think we are contributing to it. CO2 in the atmosphere traps heat, that's obvious. We produce C02 with almost everything we use, so there is obviously going to be more in the atmosphere. Methane also does the same, water particles etc.
But even if we just pretend we aren't damaging Earth at all, we know our atmosphere is shit, just go in to any major city and you instantly start to feel ill.
We are probably damaging ourselves due to all the crap in the air. This is good enough reason to stop using fossil fuels and start using renewable and clean sources of energy.
The earth has been naturally going through cycles of warming and cooling long before we spewed our garbage all over the place. Global warming has occurred in the past as have ice ages. To what extent people are responsible is the question. Do we have some effect? Probably. To what extent? Who the F knows. To figure that out you would need a control to compare and we don't have one. The money is gonna be in carbon offset cap and trade. If they implement that idea you will see some real market manipulation and the consumer is gonna get screwed AGAIN. I think the influence of man and all the hype is pure BS. Right now I live in zone 7. Bring on global warming. I wanna grow blood oranges and limes in my back yard!!!
here is another article showing that all the evidence that these formulas and predictions of global warming have been made.......were all thrown away to clear space?!?!
Climate change data dumped - Times Online
There needs to be congressional hearings into this 'global warming' fiasco....these people are trying to rob us and they should be tried as criminals.......
And off Obamao goes to Copenhagen to debate a subject that isnt real.....nor could they care less.
2010
i think the next few years are going to be intresting when it comes to our government. lies are being uncovered all the time. with the audit the fed bill passing through congress too, this will all help to uncover what some conspiritors have been saying for years.
ive heard all this from a nasa scientist Dr. Roy Spencer who said the earth goes on 30 year cycles, and he was one of the first people to report on gores false graphs. but these 30 year cycles of warming and cooling are influened by the ocean currants.
In his climate models, he said there was global warming. but not near the degree that others were saying. as he predicted, we are now going into a cooling cycle. remember in the 70's when we were going into the next iceage? this was due to climate change from CO2 supposibly cooling the planet.
i think more of this kind of work needs to be done all over the world. the truth needs to be uncovered. the government shouldnt be a transparent agency. we as people need to stand up and take back the control of our country from the corp elite. first off, i tihnk we need to stop paying members of congress. it should be a volenteer position, not a profit position.
Yes, and pass this proposed Amendmant 28Quote:
Originally Posted by Frickr
Proposed Amendment to the US Constitution
"Congress shall make no law that applies to any citizen of the United States that does not apply equally to all US Senators and Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to any US Senator or Representative that does not apply equally to all citizens of the United States. All existing laws and regulations that do not meet these criteria shall be declared null and void!"
Great article from England since apparently the MSM here in the states refuses to really cover the scandal.
Climategate: it’s all unravelling now – Telegraph Blogs
In Australia the backlash continues
Australia's Parliament defeats global warming bill - Yahoo! News
I hope that Hacker is out there somewhere in the matrix.......THANK YOU!!!! Your an international freedom fighter or something like that.:thumbsup:
Cant wait to see the list of names of congressman & women who sign off on this cap&trade bill here in the states...........they name names!!!!
Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate' - The Paper Trail (usnews.com)
These people hijacked peoples love for this planet...made them fearful of something that isnt real....profitted billions off dollars off these people & companies. Books will be written for years and years about this.....Enron, Maddoff, Global Warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Sixty-two degrees in Delaware today. December 3. And if that is not evidence of warming I don't know what is. I'm a Delaware native and this ain't normal. :jointsmile:
Oliver North the keynote at Lincoln Day Dinner | delawareonline.com | The News Journal
And now there are reports that NASA has been doing the same thing. They won't release the raw data to verify there results.
Another reason to just pull the plug on NASA. They have done absolutely nothing for the last 50 years except put more spy satellites up.
Really, well here in Houston we may see the earliest snowfall in history tomorrow?Quote:
Originally Posted by gypski
Chance of snow Friday is up in the air | Chronicle | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
Its called Climate Change, and it's a natually occuring thing. I swear....in 20 years, we will still have old folks walking around talking about 'global warming' and ' sell your house by the coast' and the rest of the silly catchphrases libs use for this hoax.......funny stuff.....dont worry billy....Grandapa Gore is crazy.:stoned:
Those satellites can look clearly into just about any structure on the planet......and show which way the people inside part their hair..... and I swear to god on that. Past 5 years has been all military NASA work out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
The Church of Global Warming should be burned at the stake. Sheeple.