MonkeyBone's Second CFL grow!

Last year I was beginning my introduction to indoor cultivation. Having learn from mistakes and good things, I feel ready to start all over again!

Some of you remember me for my 1st grow here: http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ars-green.html.

I had 2 plants, unknown strain. One had a nute prob and the other was fantastic. The nute prob one turned hermi and fertilized herself. And I fertilized 1 bud of the other to combine the 2.

So this grow here will be of 1 seed of the previous 2 mixed together!

Starting from seed, with CFLs.

I will plant the seed right when I'll post this. No germination in paperbag or whatever. And I will plant it in her final pot. No transplantation, no hassles.

4 gallon pot with potting soil, vermiculite, perlite and peat moss. Nutes will be same as last grow.Liquid bio nutes!

So this is a restart!!!!

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Bro you hit it with hermie pollin its gunna hermie on you:( Sorry man....on the bright side... It will be a female seed :thumbsup:

Get this stuff and use it when you start to flower Dutch Master Reverse from Growco Indoor Garden Supply

I'm along for the ride Bro....I liked your last grow :hippy:

Hey Vaped!

Well, for the hermi thing, one of my fellow friend grower tried a seed from the same batch that I give him. the plant is now in advanced flowering stage showing brown hairs already. No sign of hermi at all. It's really a mix of the 2 plants I had!

Here are pics of the plant!
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Right on man....I was just giving a heads up....normally you have a 75% chance of a unstable seed when you use the pollin from a hermie.

I took a clone of a plant that went hermie in flower and the clone went hermie too weird thing was I didnt see the sacks until I harvested only polinated some of the lower inner buds.


Good luck with the grow Bro:hippy:

My bet is that the nute problem stressed it out on the first grow and that caused it to hermie, and your friend had kept his stress free. It may well be that a small amount of stress may cause it to hermie though, so worth keeping Dutch Master Reverse in mind still!

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I won't have any nute problems on this grow, but is there any inconvenience to plant the seed right into a big pot?

In nature, in the woods, hey forest is a giant pot!

Will plant seed in a plastic glass, then move on for the 4 gallon pot. Will put some plastic wrap over the glass to keep moisture in. Easier this way.

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So I planted the seed 3 days ago and.....Here it is!

Newborn!
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Primary set-up: 2x 42w 6500k cfls
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It will be on a 20/4 schedule for about 2 weeks. Then I will repot it in it's final pot. And then it will be on a 18/6 schedule.


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yo monkey great to see you back for another go a bout.:thumbsup: I would consider that you transplant it from that cup to a 1.5 - 2 gal. pot. Then throw it into the 4 gallon right before you flip ya light. you don't wanna give it to big of area otherwise the plant will spend more energy on root development. So you are just gonna do 1 plant.? I enjoyed your last grow man will differently watch this one. You should do another plant to, you might get another alien looking one again.:jointsmile: Good luck tho bro. I also wanna say added bonus with 2 plants is if one does not turn out well at least your time won't be a total wast you will have another smoke to enjoy.


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Hey KillerBudG!

Unfortunately, the little buddy died. Strangled by his seed's shell. So I started 3 beans this evening. If I see the shell on top of it and it won't come off, I will do a little operation.

And I don'T have the place this year for 2 plants. I was given a small freezer and the only place I found to put it is in the "grow" closet. Take 1/2 the space. So it will only be 1 plant.

I wish that at least 1 of the 3 beans will sprout without too much effort this time!

I will let them sit in humidity (plastic wrap over the red glass) as long as I see the first 2 leaves appear.


And to end with, the oddly shaped secondary I had last year, I have it here in a jar!!! Weigh 3.2 grams! I also have the very top bud of the same plant weighing ~3gs.

Hope that it will be as interesting as last year!

Thanks for subbin! I will have 1 before the end of this week!! Hope so!

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Newborn!
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Without his shell! Yay!

So now we can start for real!


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Day 2
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Day 3
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Do you think LST and FIM will increase yield even if I put CFLs all around it? Like I did last year?


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I would suggest doing it, if not for any other reason than keeping the height at a minimum. They are both easy to do, any the results have been proven. With that said, do what makes YOU happy. If you don't feel comfortable FIM'ing, try LST, it is simple and you might just like the results:)

For LST is it best to use a piece of string (in fabric) or metal wire?

Height is not an issue, last plants measures 40" and 48" tall.

IMHO peice of yarn should be sufficient enough.. :rastasmoke:

LOL

My girlfriend's hairs?:stoned:

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Don't think she would want us knowing she has yarn for hair..but like i said simple yarn string would work...cheap and easy to work with :thumbsup:

You said you poped 3 of them. I say lst 1 fim the other 1 then fim and lst the last one. Then pick the 1 you like the most, as long as its not a male.:thumbsup::jointsmile: Surely you got room to start the 3,right.?:D


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Originally Posted by KillerBudG

You said you poped 3 of them. I say lst 1 fim the other 1 then fim and lst the last one. Then pick the 1 you like the most, as long as its not a male.:thumbsup::jointsmile: Surely you got room to start the 3,right.?:D

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1 of 3 have popped out.

And I got room for only one

It's a female for sure, no doubt about it! Herm on Female = Female!

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As for today! It grows!

Day 4
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For this grow, I will post at least 2 pics of the plant every day. Good quality pics and a lot of them. I only got 1 plant, but I will be the "Log with most pics!"

Have fun looking at them!

Looking good. CFLs deffinitly work. I got near 3 oz from my first grow. What a learning experience that was. Ill be keeping an eye. Im currently havin a newborn seedling problem, so its nice to watch urs and compare, Im odly at ease right now lol, Im getting very impatient haha.

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Originally Posted by EnhAnceD

Looking good. CFLs deffinitly work. I got near 3 oz from my first grow. What a learning experience that was. Ill be keeping an eye. Im currently havin a newborn seedling problem, so its nice to watch urs and compare, Im odly at ease right now lol, Im getting very impatient haha.

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Patience is the Key my friend!
3 oz is respectable! Got similar results from my very first grow last year!

Day 5!
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First leaves are growing fast! Thanks to 2x 42w 6500k cfls! 5700 lumens total for tiny baby girl! I'll put more light when she'll get bigger, don'T want to burn her!

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ya man, my first grow, i was so patient with watering and I thought I got that down pat pretty quick and easy, but this time around I dunno, I did some things a little different and I wish I hadnt just so I could better try and figure out whats wrong. Eitherway I threw both of the ones I had troubles with in a 24/0 lighting cub with my bubble cloner. I gently removed the dirt around the one that just looked like crap and found that the whole plant, root an all was an inch. Pretty much no roots, so i used a spray bottle n cleaned the part where roots should be, then let it sit in a rooting hormone for 5 mins, then changed the soil so it wouldnt be wet and only time will tell. Do you plan on growing these straight threw or are you going to take cuttings for clones.

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Originally Posted by EnhAnceD

ya man, my first grow, i was so patient with watering and I thought I got that down pat pretty quick and easy, but this time around I dunno, I did some things a little different and I wish I hadnt just so I could better try and figure out whats wrong. Eitherway I threw both of the ones I had troubles with in a 24/0 lighting cub with my bubble cloner. I gently removed the dirt around the one that just looked like crap and found that the whole plant, root an all was an inch. Pretty much no roots, so i used a spray bottle n cleaned the part where roots should be, then let it sit in a rooting hormone for 5 mins, then changed the soil so it wouldnt be wet and only time will tell. Do you plan on growing these straight threw or are you going to take cuttings for clones.

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I will try to LST this one out. And I will have a total of 30 000 lumens (all around the plant) for flowering this baby. I think it will turn out great!

Day 6!!
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Comin' good!


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Hey EnhAnceD,

In your signature, the link for your grows, how do you make it to be like that? Like it's a title but when you click on it you go to the page. I can only have the page written, but I want the title written!

Poor in english sorry, main language is in french.


Mine ------> My New CFL Grow Log! -----> http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-cfl-grow.html

Yours ----->CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBone

Hey EnhAnceD,

In your signature, the link for your grows, how do you make it to be like that? Like it's a title but when you click on it you go to the page. I can only have the page written, but I want the title written!

Poor in english sorry, main language is in french.


Mine ------> My New CFL Grow Log! -----> http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-cfl-grow.html

Yours ----->CurrentGrow10/03/09|Jack47/L.AWoman| L.E.D & CFL Grow

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try this:

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ml#post2032437

is that what you are talking about?

if so, copy and paste this, just add the brackets [ at the beginning and ] at the end.

URL="http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/176456-monkeybones-second-cfl-grow.html#post2032437"]http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/176456-monkeybones-second-cfl-grow.html#post2032437[/URL

are you just pasting in your url?

if so, try the "insert link" button (the earth with the chain links). then paste the url in the box, then it will put it in the form, sometimes the highlighted text doesn't need changed. if it does you can write what you want between the closing/opening brackets.

hope i just didn't confuse your worse!


-shake

ya I just fooled around with it until it worked lol. Basically what shake said hahaha, gogogogogo. Ya bro, 30000 lumens is a lot of light. I had prolly about 30000lumens in my first cfl grow, just on one plant. I yielded 3 oz which was really nice, but thats the porblem with cfls, they dont really penetrate b.c the light strength is week already and as it travels it becomes even more week. I had to have my lights abuot 1-3 inches from the plant, basically totally surrounding the plant as if you see in the pics it had the main cola up high and alot of side bud branches half way down, that was a pain in the ass. I had about 300w of elictricity, and I can say that is why cfl growing works, and on a budget go for it, although lol I did spent like 10bucks pert 42w cfl and I had 8 PLus like 10 26watt 2700k bulbs and 8 6500k bulbs so its not reallly cheep, but you can just go out and get more light as you need apposed to spendin the money upgront on hps of mh. Iv been reading alot about light, and pretty much, you can be like oohhh these lights give out these amounts of lights, but really plants dont work on lumens lol. Its nice to know that when you have alot of them your plants will do well, but lumens was designed for humans to measure light. You should read up on your lights and ways to optimize your lighting b.c from what Iv read you may end up spending more per watt/lumen w.e than you think esp if you pay your own hydro bill. Take some time and educate yourslef cfl vs hps or i dunno. I found this neet link on hightimes L.E.D. GROW LIGHTS Read threw that. Based on this plus many youtube videos, links, other forums that L.E.D lighting will be the future of growing cannabis. Best of luck bro and if you have questions Id be glad to help. I put a bunch of pics of my light setup in my first log.

headshake, I tried everything. Dosen't want to work for me. So the urls in my sig will remain plain and untasty.

enhanced, I know an HPS be a must have. When the cfls will be all burnt out, I will maybe purschase an HPS.
But not before having my house...


Day 7

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Leaves way bigger! Other set of leaves coming too!!!

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Day 8..

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BIGGER! I COMMAND YOU!


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looking good. slow but steady. i always noticed my plants seemed to lag at the beginning of veg with the CFLs.

i guess part of it has to do with the physyology of a plant. if a plant has to have leaves to photosynthesize, then growth should be exponential as the plant gains more of them, if all factors for growth are met.

sorry, random thought.

keep up the good work my friend!


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Day 9
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Day 10
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headshake, plant grows at a fantastic pace, IMO. For sure under MH or HPS it will explode but for myself it's enough for now. I'm always thrilled to look at it when I wake up of when I come home from work. That's the pleasure of it!


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Day 11

Well, got impatient and repotted the little girl in her final destination. Mixed of potting soil, peat moss and perlite.

Will put more lights this week-end.

Pics!
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Grows nicely I think!

lookin good!
im about a week behind you on mine
just organic soil with worm castings, water, and 5 cfls!
mabey i get some nutes later on down the road

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Originally Posted by bondjamesbond

lookin good!
im about a week behind you on mine
just organic soil with worm castings, water, and 5 cfls!
mabey i get some nutes later on down the road

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Thanks for stopping by! Let's make a race!:D

Day 12!
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Currently on 20/4 schedule, do I need to change to 18/6? Whatcha think?

Best of luck, Monkeybone! :thumbsup:

Lookin good fellow CFL'er

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBone

Currently on 20/4 schedule, do I need to change to 18/6? Whatcha think?

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Unless you are having heat issues (which i doubt), i would leave them on the 20/4...the same light sched. worked perfect for my CFL op
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Originally Posted by DOUGAL25

Lookin good fellow CFL'er
Unless you are having heat issues (which i doubt), i would leave them on the 20/4...the same light sched. worked perfect for my CFL op
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Day temps: ~26C
Night temps: ~20C

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Oct-28-2009 09:15
Shovelhandle Best of luck, Monkeybone!

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Hey shovel! Thanks dude! Started good and doin' great!


Plugged 4 more 26w 6500k cfls!
Day 13!!!

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Bigger everyday!!!

I hope it'll have those same secondaries than last year! They were HUGE!


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looks great so far :D im currently growing a feminized crimea blue, its around the same age as yours but a few days older and im using CFLs as well, so im excited to follow this one to compare!

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Originally Posted by rkbw09

looks great so far :D im currently growing a feminized crimea blue, its around the same age as yours but a few days older and im using CFLs as well, so im excited to follow this one to compare!

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I'm glad to see more fellow cflers!

I'll stop by your log soon, busy like hell those days.

Day 14.

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Day 15!

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Growing...Day 16!

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