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Well I picked up a felony charge for hash in SD. I'm taking it to trial if the felony is not dropped but the only grounds I have to fight it on is what constitutes hash? Can I tell them I mixed ash with resin and hope they are that stupid? What are the chemical differences between pot and hash, if there are any? Any help on ways to handle this case would be greatly appreciated.
I hope you kept your mouth shut and asked for a lawyer.
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Originally Posted by bruhn13
Well, seeing as you are taking it to court, they are going to keep the evidence, your hash. And I imagine that if you said that, they wouldn't give a rats ass how dumb you thought they were, they wouldn't believe it; especially if any of them are smokers(tobacco) seeing as they know what resin is/smells like.
The reason Hash gets you in more trouble than weed is because you have to process the marijuana or leaves to make hash....its no longer considered a natural product... even if you use water ice and bags to make the hash... whoever made the hash changed the natural state of the marijuana.... condenced it
maybe so but the definition of THC is a given... you win by amount less than an ounce
run their balls if your got a pair.
you dont
I would argue - and I don't know that this will sway anyone that honestly thinks a felony charge for 8 hundredths of a gram of hash is an appropriate charge - that hash is just as natural as the bud itself. I consider "processing" to mean that something is added or taken away from something to make the end product different from the natural product, like processed cheese, or processed chicken. On the contrary, hash is simply a collection of the resin heads naturally produced by the plant. Of course hash is more potent and has more THC than the bud, but it is still a product from the plant that is produced naturally. If you were caught with .08 g of chopped up and compressed buds, would that be processing, and therefore worthy of a stiffer charge? Where is the rationality here?
BTW, is SD San Diego or South Dakota?
I believe that is South Dakota. And they have alot more stiffer/harder charges when it comes to drugs. They are really emo about drugs in there state, as it is alot harder to come across. This makes it more appealing to go make money there for them type of people, But if they make charges harsher this would likely mean less people that would wanna go there to profit.!:jointsmile: I have heard this from 3 of my friends that use to live there, An another one of my friends say ND has stricter laws than most states but not as bad as SD.
I am not 100% sure of the actual laws but I remember from school that SD laws are kinda screwy compared to the surrounding states.
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Take it to the jury. Just by wasting the courts time over such a small amout will get you a better plea bargain. Stand tall and insist on the jury. Make sure you wate all the time you can and remember that 90 percent of all court cases are settled out with plea bargains. If they did not do deals for things like this the courts would be sooo tied up you might not get there for many years.
My friend and everyone else...........you guys want this person to take it to a JURY in SOUTH DAKOTA??????? Good luck getting 12 like minded pot smokers in SOUTH DAKOTA. Your in S. Dakota......plea down.....serve your fucking time dude......jails up there are cadillac. Dont be stupid and sign for a ton of probation you wont be able to finish. MAN UP!! Do the crime, you do the time. Then your done, not these ridiculous probation TRAPS
You have these , honky, white kids serving 5years of probation when they could have done 30 days and been free as a bird.
The prosecuter knows your not a serious dealer or trafficker and in the current economy wont wanna waste tons of $$ prosecuting this case. Get a lawyer and keep resetting the case.....they will come at you with different offers. Wait till they offer a midemeanor w a short jail stint....jump on the offer. Swear this offer will come.....wait for it....it takes some time. Dont be a sucker and get caught up in the probation CYCLE. If your gonna be breaking the law (no matter how dumb the law), you have to know that there is gonna be a chance you will go to jail. If not, stay out of the criminal world, it's not for you.
The definitions are going to be set in the statutes and case law of SD. DO NOT take legal advice from people on the internet. Hire the best SD lawyer you can find and afford and LISTEN TO WHAT HE/SHE SAYS.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhn13
your lawyer will tell you the same. Signing up for years of probation when your young is a trick. I cant tell you how many folks I have met that signed on for 4 or 5 years probation (which they violated for something very minor) when they had a chance to sit out their sentence for 15 - 30 days and been done and free. Dont fall for that s--t.
Gross overstatement. It's not about age, it's about how likely you are to have further adventures in the criminal justice system, which is not synonymous with age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Islandborn
alrighty....having been a product of the criminal justice system for around 5 years....which all started with weed charge and probation when I was 16....which I violated with a possesion of alchohol at 18 and driving w suspended DL and went to state prison. These kids more than likely will have another minor run in with law enforcement while on probation. Then its off to adult prison (college as we called it) for these children. All cause they were scared and signed up for ridiculous probation terms for years and years when they coulda sat their punk ass in county for 30 days and been done. Its a cycle....designed that way....and it's very efficent.
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And hire a free world attorney...court appointed lawyers work against you 75% of the time. Good luck
How long were you incarcerated by the state?
True hash is an opiate... *NOT* THC from weed.
You need to follow the advice of the others who told you to keep you mouth shut and hire the best lawyer you can get.
Hash is simply compressed resin glands of the cannabis plant and lacks any opioid alkaloids, so how is it an opiate? :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
Holy shit man!
America is Fucked up!
You can get jail time for being caught with 0.8 grams of hash? :wtf:
land of the free... haha
seriously though.... you guys are living in a fascist police state....
The police here will confiscate anything up to a half ounce of hash 14g and send you on your way.....most of the time.... or charge you with posession.....anything over that and your pretty much done for dealing....... shit I know a guy who got busted with 8 bars of hash 2kg and he got 2 years.... was out in 18 months
0.8 grams....Wtf
Your right.... my badQuote:
Originally Posted by dejayou30
Dude... try living in a DRY county(no alcohol) in the middle of the Mississippi bible belt.Quote:
Originally Posted by monny10
Have you ever stepped foot in the states?Quote:
Originally Posted by monny10
Again.....England is MUCH more Police State than America is homie............way ahead of us. However.....if Obama continues on his hilarious path we will shortly arrive where you guys are....BUT...with the opposition about to win some minor victories here at the polls today......a warning shot is gonna be fired across the bow. You know people are pissed when a conservative could win NY.....and virginia which Obama carried is headed back to red. Obamacare will be the end of liberal/socialist dominance in congress and senate.
And my cousins best friend was detained and paid a fine for a JOINT in London last year........sounds about the same as Texas nowadays.
Sure,
I've been to Florida... visiting the rat kingdom when I was a kid...Rampant consumerism, nice people and cheap food.... Good holiday as far as I can remember...
I like Americans man... The right to bear arms thing is pretty fuckin cool!
God I wish we had that privelege here! I wonder how the U.S government will take that away from you guys eventually?
I think if they promoted it on T.V that handing in your guns was the best way to keep you safe from 'terrorists' and anybody who didnt was un patriotic..... the stupid fucks would go for it! dont ya think?
The U.K isnt much better man! the most surveillied society in the world if thats what you mean? we're like America's apprentice!
I'm Scottish myself...... we're like Englands bitch! well at least until north sea oil runs out.... then we'll be on our own and independent I would guess...
Its true though bro, both our governments the US and the UK are Rapidly eroding our countries civil liberties..... to keep us safe of course.... 'from terror' hahaha! :wtf:
I can only vouch for hash posession in my country man, Londons a fuckin shit hole! and I hate the way they speak... fuck em'
I hope they really start to shift swine flu up a gear my good man!
Both our countries are fucked!
Also, this red, blue, left, right nonsense is bullshit! Your educated enough to know that right?
Good lord friend, this is not the place to seek legal advice, especially if you are facing a felony charge. Find a lawyer that can explain what your exposure might be for starters and work backwards from there. Having a felony conviction on your record will be a burden for years, seek professional help.
Zen-
Yeah you got a guy on here telling you that Hash is the same as Vicodin hopefully that prompted you to seek professional advice :thumbsup:
i agree and our own media is the main source of terror.
get a lawyer, if san diego just hope it wasnt chemically processed.
anyway, sorry for hijacking your thread man,
good luck with the charges bruhn13
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This is such a crock of shit. Come on!!!!
There are drugs out there that are serious and ruin lives. Any THC substance is in no way in danger of honestly ruining lives. If this country doesn't get it's priorities straight, we're doomed. And we have jails full of stupid cases like this. Shouldn't our justice system be focused on crimes that actually impact society and families to the negative?
This pisses me off to no end. How many people right now are sitting in a cell, for what?? for an ounce, 2 ounces. A heavy medical patient will do that in a day.
It is a travesty in this day and age where we are spending TRILLIONS of dollars in Obama's F'd up stimulus but we still feel the need to put a felony charge on a gram of hash? Are you kidding me?!?!?! F'd up priorities man, way F'd up.