Official Test Log: Killa's Wrecked Homicide

what's good everybody?! i have the privilege, nay the honor of testing some of Killa12345's Wrecked Homicide!

wrecked homicide is a nasty cross between a reserva privada purple wreck(M) x (purple kush x purple rhino)(F). the[/COLOR]

purple wreck is a cross of purple urkle x train wreck.

the purple kush x purple rhino goes by the name of Death By Purple! the original breeder was MR. M and then Killa was given the F1s to work the strain, which anyone who's seen his grow log can attest to!

so with the formalities out of the way, it's time to start the show!


i was gifted with 15 F1 beans (not to mention some death by purple to test out and work with.

due to space limitations, i am gonna have to run the beans in two batches.

for the first batch i dropped seven beans in a plastic baggie with a washcloth. why a washcloth you ask? well, i have no paper towels or napkins.....and toilet paper just plain ol' sucks (not to mention the govt would try to tax me for it!).

so seven beans dow.....and seven beans popped and are now in the dirt! (when i went to put them in the plastic cups that they currently reside in i had exaclty seven! pretty weird, huh?!)

this log will progress slowly as i will document the entire grow for myself, for killa and for anyone interested. not to mention, eventually a lot of you will have wrecked homicide in your mom rooms in the future!!!


i'll try to update every sunday at the latest.

i have included some pics to get the log off on the right foot. the pics for the wrecked homicide are non-eventful to say the least so i've included some of my current goings-on. (i know a lot of you skim through the words for the pics anyhow!)


-shake


pic 1- germ'd beans

pic 2- freshly planted wrecked homicide

pics 3&4- current ladies in flower

pic 5- beans i put into veg on around august 25th (or so). i think part of the problem with them is that i didn't have any perlite so it's just potting soil. oh, and the plant in the square pot is wild mountain strawberries!!!

pics 1&2 - close up of one of the ladies in flower

pic 3- my favorite of the four in flower. i like the two sets of two tops! they have all been topped and LST'd.

pic 4&5- aerial view of two of the four in flower! damn, that's a lot of colas!....and there are more down below!!!

Man....Shake thanks for the nice introduction!


AND NO its all my pleasure to watch people running crosses and beans i have created.....

Also nice to see the germ rate was 100%...How long did they take to crack?


Anyways.....im really looking forward to watching this log.....YOU are the FIRST one to run this cross and a BIG good luck to ya....

Killa

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Originally Posted by killa12345

Also nice to see the germ rate was 100%...How long did they take to crack?


Anyways.....im really looking forward to watching this log.....YOU are the FIRST one to run this cross and a BIG good luck to ya....

Killa

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they took just about 36 hours give or take. i'm pretty sure that it would have been faster, but they weren't as warm as i would have liked.

thanks for the opportunity again and thanks for the luck!


-shake

I'd get this strain if it were ever available. :thumbsup:

That is a lot of colas, how long have they been in flower for (sorry if i missed it)

Hey Headshake,

Very very nice! Good looking plants you got going. And a most interesting strain that Killa put together.:thumbsup:

Good luck and keep up the good work, I'll be watching.
:)

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Originally Posted by seattlesmoke247

I'd get this strain if it were ever available. :thumbsup:

That is a lot of colas, how long have they been in flower for (sorry if i missed it)

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Hey Headshake,

Very very nice! Good looking plants you got going. And a most interesting strain that Killa put together.:thumbsup:

Good luck and keep up the good work, I'll be watching.
:)

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hey guys, just so there isn't any more confusion than i've apparently already started, but the picture of the big plants and of the seedlings are of my current grow and NOT of the wrecked homicide. i just know how much peeps like to see pics so i included some.

i LST'd and topped those four ladies that are in flower. they've been under 12/12 for 24 days as of today.

thanks for following along.


-shake

Alright..wrecked homicide..let the show begin..i will be taking notes and trying to keep my jaw from dropping off...:thumbsup:

What are your lights? Or is that just off of those CFL's?

i guess since this is a test log i should list what equipment and supplies i will be using......and now would be as good as time as any since there isn't diddly squat going on right now.

the ladies (like the ones in the pictures above) will be vegged under 6 x 23W, 1700 lumen, 6500K CFLs. for flowering they will go under 18 x 23W, 1700 lumen, 2700K CFLs.

(the reason that i'm not mixing spectra is that i was having some re-veg issues with some of the ladies in flower. i'm not saying it was or wasn't the mixing of the spectra, i'm just trying to eliminate possibilities. the four that are in flower now will be the first batch to flower completely under the single spectrum.)

i'll be using potting mix that has minimal nutes in it. i'm not sure of the exact amount (too lazy to go look), but the nutes didn't appear to affect my current seedlings. 2/3 soil to 1/3 perlite mix.

i'll be using fox farm nutes with the solubles as well as molasses all the way through on days when the plants are watered and not fed.

think that's about it for now.


-shake

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What are your lights? Or is that just off of those CFL's?

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strictly CFLs.

-shake

Here is some pics of the origanal breeding project:

5 plants....


1st Picture
Front left: Purple Wreck
Front Right: Purple Kush x Purple Rhino f1 (kush pheno)
Middle: Male Purple Wreck
Back Left: Purple Kush x Purple Rhino f1 (kush pheno)
Back Right: purple Kush x Purple Rhino f1 (Rhino pheno)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...DSC02662-1.jpg


2nd Picture


Close up on the male!


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...R/DSC02661.jpg

hey killa, what were the phenos you noted with the WH?

also, were the DBP beans f1? f2? what phenos did you experience with these? i see the kush and the rhino. and others?

i've noticed a few of the beans starting to poke their heads out of the ground!


-shake

Ive havent got to run the Wrecked Homicide, so you will be the first one to run them.....so i dont know the pheno status yet! The seeds are only 2 months old and a VERY.....I mean Very limited amount of people got this cross from me....so far....I mean like 3 or 4 people....

the DBP are f2 of the pk xpr, SO Far all the plants have been pretty symmetrical......all looking like the pictures i posted in my log last week! I think the f2 eliminated a lot of the variences in the f1....


On another note.....

I lost the origanal purple kush x purple rhino moms, i origanally made the seeds from.....but luckily my friend held on to both of those phenos....so if i wanna backcross some of the f2 or the cuts i can in the future....along with that im getting some 3xBluemoonshine he is running which comes from the origanal seed stock that KAYA produced.....and i have some of those seeds as well for some christmas breeding.....Can everyone say....."Christmas Presents"! LOL

Killa

"christmas presents!"

hmmm, i see some twisted violet or blue headed step-mom in the near future!

appreciate the info. i'm trying to be as thorough as possible here.


-shake

OMG, I can't wait for this grow! Killa blessed you with some GOD seeds!!! I might have to invest in a purple pheno seed. F1 hybrids are the shit by the way! :D

I wanted some Gorilla Grape seeds, but them damn things is like $250 :jawdropper:

I'll get some seed along those line eventually. Still got about 5 other strains to still do. Hmmm:D

Again, I can't wait! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Quietly, from the back of the room, blows a huge puff of smoke through the thread:S5:

I promise I won't make fun of you if you name your plants this time, I will sit back quietly and be a good ninja. Honest :yeahright:

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Quietly, from the back of the room, blows a huge puff of smoke through the thread:S5:

I promise I won't make fun of you if you name your plants this time, I will sit back quietly and be a good ninja. Honest :yeahright:

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when did i name my plants? and you are still my ninja!

-shake

Shows how stoned I spend my time. I must have you confused with someone else from waaay back.

I can't wait for you to have a more efficient light setup. We will get you where you want to be. Not a doubt in my mind, I can be a really resourceful guy at times, and it's time for you to step up the game soon:thumbsup:

Counting the days.....

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Originally Posted by irydyum

Shows how stoned I spend my time. I must have you confused with someone else from waaay back.

I can't wait for you to have a more efficient light setup. We will get you where you want to be. Not a doubt in my mind, I can be a really resourceful guy at times, and it's time for you to step up the game soon:thumbsup:

Counting the days.....

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must be that new bong! you aren't sampling the widow are you?!

i can't wait to have a new lighting setup either.

man, i'm totally stoked. it won't be long now! then we are gonna do some thangs!


-shake

what's good everyone? sorry for not updating this log, but there is not much to report. i'm gonna try to get the updates done at least every sunday. if there is more to report i'll post in between. as always, it's slow going in the beginning.

the Wrecked Homicide have been vegging for about 6 days so far. (they went into the ground on the 6th after being germ'd on the 4th.)

there has been one casualty. plant "E" never made it out of the ground. it germ'd fine, but for some reason, perhaps it wasn't getting sufficient water (i dug it up and the taproot was dried up). i'll take the hit for this and it's not to be blamed on Killa's beans.

all the rest are ~1" or so. (hey, i'm only vegging under 6 x 23W CFLs! can't wait to get some REAL lights!) they all have at least two sets of true leaves. several are working on the third set or more. can't wait 'til they get bigger and the different pheons start materializing. i'm gonna have fun with this.

i'll attach some pics for you visual types. they aren't much, but every 1000 mile journey starts with the first step.


-shake


pic 1&2- all the "subjects" (does anything look familiar in pic 2 Killa?)

pic 3-5- close ups of various "subjects"

the pics are a couple days old by the way.

here are some more pics of various things i've got going on.

pic 1&2- the four ladies currently in flower. they've been flowering for 30 days as of today. they are under 18 x 23W CFLs. so i'm sure that's why they are lagging.

i know i've posted about the 40/60 phenomenon before. well i noticed on day 24 exactly that the "stretch" was over. i'm not saying they are done growing, but it was amazing to be able to see that stretch finish. pretty cool indeed.

pic 3- a random close up that i liked.

pic 4- the aerogarden project. got three in there. the one in the front middle is lagging behind so i LST'd the other two. seem to be doing quite nice. i plan on flowering them here in the next couple of days.

pic 5- various other plants that i'm growing at the moment.
-on the aerogarden in the small pot is a clone i took of some wild strawberries, from colorado.

-directly behind that is a ponderosa pine that i got while in colorado.

-just in front of that, in the chuck e. cheese cup and in the small, tan planter are asiatic lilies that i saved from a plant i bought my wife that the cats chewed up.

-in the clear, plastic cup is bamboo that was given to my grandmother by me about 15 years ago or so. i got it back after she passed and the cats got to that too (while we were in colorado, probably at the same time i was getting the pine, lol). once piece is rooted and the small piece is close i think.

-in the big, red pot is a miniature rose plant that the cats also got too (god damned cats! they've since learned their lessons!), including up-rooting it, but it still keeps on tickin......and blooming.

-behind the roses are three avocado pits that i'm trying to start. yes, i've tried the tootpicks and cup of water method. didn't do squat. my wife's grandma got one to sprout this way so i decided to try it. they have roots, i've checked.

-and finally, in the square pot in front of that is the wild strawberry mother plant. she was mostly dead with maybe one leaf. it's made a glorious comeback.

well know that you are probably bored to death thanks for stopping by!


-shake

I think I'm gonna have to subscribe to this one. I might be new to the forum and growing, but damn, I am sticking with it, especially when I have an amazing resource at the fingertips. Freakin' insprirational man:)

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I think I'm gonna have to subscribe to this one. I might be new to the forum and growing, but damn, I am sticking with it, especially when I have an amazing resource at the fingertips. Freakin' insprirational man:)

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thanks for the kind words, BD420. and just think, i got laughed at when i first started (by some) for using the cardboard. works pretty well i'd say. now i just wish that i had more of it. lol.

keep at it.


-shake

What up shake.....the babies look good.....sorry for the lost one but as the saying goes " only the strong will survive!".....your other plants look good as well.....one suggestion though.....with the CFL's you should try to keep the plant height to a minimum.....I know you are running a lot of them but the penatration(lol) of the light only goes so far especially those 23W which are the same i use.....i would suggest no taller than 14"....ive been noticing the difference in this grow the the various plant heights that im currently running...Keep up the fantastic work bro!

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thanks for the tip killa. i never meant for them to get that big honestly. i completely agree with you. i'm gonna start playing wtih beds as opposed to pots and see how that does. (i wonder who turned me on too that?!) i'm also waiting for those tall bitches to finish so i can get a pH pen and a ton of perlite and vermiculite. hempy buckets (or beds) here i come! i think that will make a big difference with everything. soil is so S....L....O....W! the ones in the aerogarden were started at the same time as a batch that i've got in soil. the difference is AMAZING!

so i am on the perpetual quest to improve my methods. honestly, i want to be just like you someday! i see what you are doing and that's what i'm trying to emulate, with my own twist eventually.

thanks for tuning in!


-shake

as i was watering the subjects today i took a few notes.

all are showing similar growth.

"B" & "G" are leading the way. they are starting their third set of true leaves.

"A" 's leaves are growing to the side. not sure about this.

"A", "B" & "G" are all showing purple on the bottom of their leaves.

i know it's not much but since i'm the first one to run these beans i'm trying to keep this as scientific as possible and provide as much information as i can. one day these beans will be all over! (if it's Killa's wish of course!)


-shake

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Originally Posted by headshake

as i was watering the subjects today i took a few notes.

all are showing similar growth.

"B" & "G" are leading the way. they are starting their third set of true leaves.

"A" 's leaves are growing to the side. not sure about this.

"A", "B" & "G" are all showing purple on the bottom of their leaves.

i know it's not much but since i'm the first one to run these beans i'm trying to keep this as scientific as possible and provide as much information as i can. one day these beans will be all over! (if it's Killa's wish of course!)


-shake

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I will be the first in line to purchase some :)

Things are looking lovely on that side Shake.

Sorry about not keeping up with ya. We again had a bad storm and it fried the modem! THAT'S TWICE! GRRR....Just got my new one a couple days ago.

Anyways, I will getting back to ya on what we talked about. Haven't had time to put it all together like I would like, so I'm organizing everything and will let you know as time progresses.

Again, sorry for the wait my friend. :wtf:

no worries man. i'm sorry to hear that the gods decided to sacrifice another modem on their own. that's some bullshit! are these cable modems or dsl or dialup?

i'm glad you're still working on your end. i've got some more stuff to discuss with ya. so just hit me up whenever.

hope you get everything fixed up.


-shake

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thanks for the tip killa. i never meant for them to get that big honestly. i completely agree with you. i'm gonna start playing wtih beds as opposed to pots and see how that does. (i wonder who turned me on too that?!) i'm also waiting for those tall bitches to finish so i can get a pH pen and a ton of perlite and vermiculite. hempy buckets (or beds) here i come! i think that will make a big difference with everything. soil is so S....L....O....W! the ones in the aerogarden were started at the same time as a batch that i've got in soil. the difference is AMAZING!

so i am on the perpetual quest to improve my methods. honestly, i want to be just like you someday! i see what you are doing and that's what i'm trying to emulate, with my own twist eventually.

thanks for tuning in!


-shake

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bro, PH pen and medium are pennies $50 at most.....bite the bullet and get yourself the tool needed......my bestfriend just got a ph pen and cant believe his plants are looking as good as they are. he constantly wondered why his plants always had problems.....we would always run the same cuts with a major difference in quality......not last time....which is why im running the WW!

I just found a place that sells perlite and vermiculite at $7 for 4 cu ft., but the place is 45 miles away! Shit! i kinda have to be in that neighborhood at least once a monthl, so i buy like 6 bags when i go..it took me like 6 months to find a new vendor and trust me....I WORK IN THE FIELD.. I used to pay $12 a bag at HD but none of them seem to be carrying the large bags anymore! At least in the stores

look for agriculture supply stores.....large ones....it might be very hard to find these in your area....you might have to see if HD can order it for you....ive seen the on the net but at like 25 a bag which i think is a rip off!

ps.....hydro is the shit....any type of hydro whether it be passive or active will blow any soil grow out of the water! once you go hydro you will never go back!

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bro, PH pen and medium are pennies $50 at most.....bite the bullet and get yourself the tool needed......my bestfriend just got a ph pen and cant believe his plants are looking as good as they are. he constantly wondered why his plants always had problems.....we would always run the same cuts with a major difference in quality......not last time....which is why im running the WW!

I just found a place that sells perlite and vermiculite at $7 for 4 cu ft., but the place is 45 miles away! Shit! i kinda have to be in that neighborhood at least once a monthl, so i buy like 6 bags when i go..it took me like 6 months to find a new vendor and trust me....I WORK IN THE FIELD.. I used to pay $12 a bag at HD but none of them seem to be carrying the large bags anymore! At least in the stores

look for agriculture supply stores.....large ones....it might be very hard to find these in your area....you might have to see if HD can order it for you....ive seen the on the net but at like 25 a bag which i think is a rip off!

ps.....hydro is the shit....any type of hydro whether it be passive or active will blow any soil grow out of the water! once you go hydro you will never go back!

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i feel ya Killa. and i know what you are saying is true. but when you are un-employed and so is your wife (recently got laid off) every penny counts. i'm behind on my rent and my electric. so while i know $50 bucks ain't shit, at the moment it's a lot of dough.

i'm still looking for cheap bags of perlite/verm. the cheapest i've found so far is $20 for one and $30 for the other for 4 cu ft bags. at the local hydro store (not that i would ever buy them from there) they are both $40/each. so i am currently looking for a supply store.

and i promise, as soon as the current ladies are out of flower i WILL be getting a pH pen and bags of medium.

i've also got a buddy that is supposed to be moving this way at the end of the month or so. so i might also be coming into a better light and a tent.

i'm doing the best that i can do at the moment. i appreciate the tips and the love.


-shake

So how are things going over here? How they looking shake? THE SUSPENSE! :D

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So how are things going over here? How they looking shake? THE SUSPENSE! :D

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they are going italiano. not fast enough for my liking, but going none the less. i think i need to re-vamp my setup.

hopefully i'm moving to a house next week so i'll have more room and hopefully a few investors money to work with!

and everything else is coming together nicely.

i'll have a full update tonight.


-shake

I might be late but I'll definately climb on board....Hopefully I will be starting a log with the same hybrid but under 1000s:hippy:

Your plants are looking healthy shake....keep up the good work man:hippy::thumbsup:

This is like waiting for a new episode on T.V. Sounds like it will be a killer strain. Have you thought of re-vegging or taking clones from any of the plants later on?

Stay up :hippy:

Shake:
Been where you are in my youth and it sucks big time.
I can't help with medium (too heavy to ship in amounts you'll need) but if you have a safe addy I will gladly send you the last of my brand new in box Hanna PH meters. They work ok, but have to be treated gingerly to keep them working (plus no EC measurements)

I have moved on to a MIlwaukee 802 and it is rock solid.

M.P.

PS keep on keep'n on, dude !

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Originally Posted by VapedG13

I might be late but I'll definately climb on board....Hopefully I will be starting a log with the same hybrid but under 1000s:hippy:

Your plants are looking healthy shake....keep up the good work man:hippy::thumbsup:

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thanks vaped! means a lot coming from someone of you stature (for lack of a better word)!

you know i'll be there for the log.

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Originally Posted by deleafer2220

This is like waiting for a new episode on T.V. Sounds like it will be a killer strain. Have you thought of re-vegging or taking clones from any of the plants later on?

Stay up :hippy:

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welcome aboard deleafer!

are you asking if i will re-veg one of the ladies currently in flower? if so, they yes, i'll probably re-veg one of them. it's from a bag of 'dro from a buddy. it was a known strain, i just don't know what it was. lol.

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Shake:
Been where you are in my youth and it sucks big time.
I can't help with medium (too heavy to ship in amounts you'll need) but if you have a safe addy I will gladly send you the last of my brand new in box Hanna PH meters. They work ok, but have to be treated gingerly to keep them working (plus no EC measurements)

I have moved on to a MIlwaukee 802 and it is rock solid.

M.P.

PS keep on keep'n on, dude !

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MP, i don't even know where to start. thank you for your kindness and generosity! i don't have the words to even begin to describe how i feel or how thankful that i am! (check your rep.)

again, thank you!


as far as the grow, there's not a whole lot to report.

i have a few pics though, just to show the purple that is already showing up! the aerogarden project is just for fun (like i don't have enough going on right now!)

i appreciate the love and feedback guys, you have no idea!


-shake

holy sh*t......that is a new one for me......NONE of my plants have started out that purple on the undersides.....i wonder why its so purple? i hope they are not showing deficencies.....im not saying they are, but ive just never seen the leafs start like that!.....My buds start purple from day one but the leafs usually dont look like that till easily the third week! nice shots shake
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hmmmm, wonder if it had to due with high humidity? they seem to look fine otherwise.

MP is gonna gift me a pH meter, so that should help out greatly!

i hope that i due you and your beans proud killa. i'll keep you updated, as always.


-shake

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hmmmm, wonder if it had to due with high humidity? they seem to look fine otherwise.

MP is gonna gift me a pH meter, so that should help out greatly!

i hope that i due you and your beans proud killa. i'll keep you updated, as always.


-shake

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That's exactly how my blueberry started Shake! But eventually it disappeared. Well not completely, more like faded. Like when you wear blue jeans WAY to many times! LOL

Either way, I'm here for the ride and I'm living dangerously....NO SEATBELT! LoL

::nudges shake:: pass the blunt already! :jointsmile: