Colorado Dispensary Reviews

High folks! I've been reviewing dispensaries and covering various topics within the Colorado MMJ scene. Check it out and lemme know what you think

The Strain Man

Also, lets share dispensary experiences here in this thread. Here are some of mine that haven't made it to the blog yet:

First the good....

Boulder Alternative Medicine
BoulderMeds.com

Great place! Usually have at least 10 different strains for various budgets. Anywhere from $8 a gram for great tiny mix of nugs from the bottom of bags for rolling, all the way to $17 a gram for some of the best bud CO dispensaries have to offer. These guys are so cool that if you buy a gram or two, they'll actually CUT THE BUDS OFF THE STEMS before weighing so you pay for what you smoke, not what you throw out. I'll keep coming back here.

One Brown Mouse in Nederland
onebrownmouse.com
If you want great indoor, locally-grown high-altitude bud, this is your place. I like the town and the staff who also grow their own for the store and are very knowledgeable. Prices are great, too.. $14 a gram for primos like Sage and Sour Diesel.


The Bad.....

New Options wellness in Boulder
no website

These are the guys that got robbed, and ya feel those vibes in the staff with every heavy breath in the place. Despite their bad luck, honestly, their wares just suck. I opened and inspected every jar (and they had like 20 different strains) and it seems that no one there knows anything about proper drying and curing. Some of the jars smelled of ammonia!!! WTF! Also, many of their strains are mislabeled and not what they claim to be. Also over-priced at $20 a gram for their better selections when there's such better bud not a mile away.


The Ugly...

Pain Management of Colorado in Denver
colorado.medicalmarijuana.net

They'll sign you up for $350 and have a 70 year old doctor from the Dominican Republic who can't speak English that well. A bit shady in both dealings and location. They had 2 strains on hand when I checked it out and one was just crap, the other was an AK-47 which looked decent, but it just wasn't AK-47. They also have some edibles, but they are very weak. These guys are in it for the money and that's easy to see. BEWARE: If you use these guys to set you up, I hear they will make you select them as your primary caregiver, so you'll have to change that ASAP with the state.

Unbelievable photography, man. :thumbsup:

I can't wait to sample some of that stuff next time I'm up in Boulder. I'll be checking your site!

You are very right on Pain Mangement,They first opened in Dec.I was one of their first clients,no store ,the owner is Miles Zalkin from Fl. 350.00 was the price did not explain to me or show me that he was going to be my caregiver.sold me a z for 450.. was a ++ but only worth to me 300.or 325.My paper work was returned to me because his ck.was a new counter ck.with no business name.You are right in it FOR THE MONEY !!!!!!.thank god I have a very good caregiver with only a hand full of clients and grows organic.250.00 z.Thanks for your great reviews.most are in it for the money only when they sell gr.for 20.Peace Jazz

Thanks guys!

Botanic Labs in Longmont has among the best of best meds I've seen. $20 per gram up to 7 grams, but cannot purchase more than 7 grams from Matt, as he likes to spread the wealth among many. Relatively speaking, it'll beat most other grams out there for $20+. Best bag appeal cause he's his own source growing only what he likes to smoke himself; while the rest of us get to bask in his skills. Every jar out of the 12 or so had the best and varied aromas eminating from both local-only and main-stream strains.

He had Maui, AK-47 cherry pheno, Kush, Hong Kong, Boulderberry(from a Boulder blueberry clone), and 5 or 6 others I can't remember now. All was impressive and gave me a glimpse of the kind of quality hiding in the Boulder/Longmont area. This place sets the bar for quality and I can only hope other folks strive to provide meds that good, but for $12 a gram ;)

call first, it's by appointment only, and there's no 'make me a caregiver' crap.

The Strain Man

I just posted something similar...

RE post here :)

Grateful Meds had a great selection. ---> Sage was perfect, and the peanut butter cup was very strong

Herbal Wellness had great NYCD & CaliMist!! There edibles weren't very strong an cost $10

Mr. Nice Guys had a small selection, mango was their pride n' joy - but very friendly.

My question is... where is the REAL headband, OG kush, & Chemdog? & Where are some serious edibles?

p.s.

GREAT BLOG :):thumbsup:

Hi there turbonerd :bonghit:

Thanks for posting here bro/sis. I really liked the Sage at Grateful Meds! Same Sage they sometimes have at B.A.M. Very VERY potent with a strange smell... something like a garlic beef stew smell. All in all I really liked it. What did it smell like to you?

The Strain Man

Had a strong pepper smell.

My caregiver is going to have Omaha Willy's, Bluberry X Northern lights, Chocolope, and JAZZ very soon!

that sounds exciting! Been looking for a chocolope for a while

The Strain Man

hey strain man,

diggin' the blog.

you wrote:

"After 8/30/2009, you no longer need to communicate change of caregiver status with the registry, so you're on your own to tell your caregiver yourself. As an added measure, you should fill out a Change of Caregiver form and in the primary caregiver area of the form, write the word 'NONE': Change Caregiver Form

after 8/30/2009, you MUST get it notarized before mailing to the state registry.

But in reality, folks, you don't have anything to worry about in any case because the state registry is no longer keeping track of who is who's patient/caregiver. The burden of proof will be on them to insure you didn't have a caregiver who is also growing out 6 plants for you. It'll be impossible for the DA to go after all but the largest of large gardens, so you and your 6 plants are safe."


can you direct me somewhere i can read more about this? i try to stay hip to the laws and this is one i haven't heard about.

thanks brother.

P

nevermind.....

http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medi...0200900360.pdf

meh,


it still reads like you have to communicate caregiver change with the registry, just that you now have to have the form notarized.

is there a way that we, as caregivers, can check if we still have caregiver status with a patient or will we be notified when/if they give their status to someone else? if i were to grow for ten, but six dropped me without notice, seems i would be in a bit of a legal pickle.

should i keep photocopies of notarized caregiver change forms that list me as caregiver?

good question. Before 8/30/09 the registry attempted to keep track of caregiver-patient relationships, and they would attempt to send out notices regarding patient changes. That proved impossible, so the registry dropped it. THEY NO LONGER TRACK this info, so it's unclear why we even have to send in a change of caregiver form (notorized or not). Currently the only legal way for a patient to remove you as a caregiver is for said patient to write you a letter, call you on the phone, or verbally tell you in person that they no longer require your caregiver service. If your patients haven't done that, then you can legitamately consider them 'yours' still.

I have never had to purchase from a disp. in Colo. before( im a grower)but I was wondering...If I want to make a purchase do I have to sign them over as MY caregivger???Or how does it work? Thanks for the info! Peace....

Waterdog

Hi waterdog. The quick answer is NO, you do not have to make a dispensary your primary caregiver in 95% of the cases. There are a few dispensaries that require it, but those won't last long.

for more info, this will answer your questions:
The Strain Man: What is a Medical Marijuana Caregiver and Why Should I Care?

there is a new dispensery opening today sept 1st in golden.Does anyone know the address

Had a chance to go to the new Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine in Golden on opening day.Very nice and clean.the owner had about 8-10 strains in very small jars.The buds were a little small.He is not the grower.The sad thing about this new disp.is his prices very high.100.00 for qt.385.00 for a z.Wow what ever happened to caregiver.He also advertised the first 100 people wil get a free bud in a jar.That did not happen.In the last 6 months we are seeing so many new sellers to the seen.Alot of new stores.You will see in the next yr.how many will close if they do not drop their prices.If you are not growing then yes I do know your prices will be more but with small buds and high prices I will and can not afford to shop there. Shop owners some of us really do need our meds daily and only have so much to spend.Peace Jazz:mad:

Wow, with so many dispensaries charging $120+ for 1/4s, I don't see $100 being gouging at all.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Please come back for your sample. I have several that I am sure you will like.

Thanks for stopping by the store.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine
420 Corporate Circle, I
Golden, CO

top shelf meds, friendly staff, fair prices.

there is a way to do it, and these guys know the deal.

Strain Man,

What kind of photography setup do you use? I really enjoy the images on your blog. Some of that medicine looks like tentacled creatures from outer space.

Also, I went to a dispensary grand opening today here in Durango. It's only the second one in town, but two more are opening this month. This is a boom time for Colorado MMJ.

Keep the good reviews coming!
HP

There are now 5 dispensarys here in grand junction, ill drop a review once I have been 2 all of them.

Ok so in no particular order, natures medicine, also provide massage and various other holistic stuff, but I went here 4 bud. behind a secure door u are the only patient in the room which is nice and intimate, all focus is on u, always, always, hi quality smoke, candy and hash. Kinda pricy, u get wut u pay 4 though. Natures medicine, GREAT peeps here, always @ least 2 or 3 great, great strains and always 3or 4 various other symptom specific meds\hash. Um I 4got the name of the oldest newer 1, down off 24 rd , but was very impressed with tha layout of this 1, 2 or 3 times bigger than any other dispensary intown, pool room, and various other chill spots wit couches and tv, just asking 2 b chilled upon wit a nice vape, wich owner incourages 2 chill, great meds, only thing is kinda outta my way, but good location. Now its god hand or gods gift in clifton, they just had sensible which wuz in my book +++++, anyways 1st timer just the other day, plenty edabiles, I wuz on a budget, so I had 2 pic up some regs\swagg, but asked 2 admire sum of their hi quality and owner wuz nice enough 2 break off a couple budz 4 me and another paitent who wuz also lackin $$$ and pickinup regs as well, VERY nice. Also cheepest glass @ any dispensary I seen yet. Ok last but not least, weeds, plenty good edibles, ummmm, differtnt from other dispensary, but not by anymeans less quality, u can tell still very new, but nice 2 see sum female budtenders for once lol. I can not say nothing but great things about all 5 gj dispensarys, vey profetional, clean, and great quality meds. Ok 1 thing, where all tha REAL, REAL , potent concentrates @, honney oil and crazy ass hash, just 4 growers and disp owners or wut???

Need caregiver in northern Colorado (Greeley) - Thanks...

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Originally Posted by TheStrainMan

High folks! I've been reviewing dispensaries and covering various topics within the Colorado MMJ scene. Check it out and lemme know what you think

The Strain Man

Also, lets share dispensary experiences here in this thread. Here are some of mine that haven't made it to the blog yet:

First the good....

Boulder Alternative Medicine
BoulderMeds.com

Great place! Usually have at least 10 different strains for various budgets. Anywhere from $8 a gram for great tiny mix of nugs from the bottom of bags for rolling, all the way to $17 a gram for some of the best bud CO dispensaries have to offer. These guys are so cool that if you buy a gram or two, they'll actually CUT THE BUDS OFF THE STEMS before weighing so you pay for what you smoke, not what you throw out. I'll keep coming back here.

One Brown Mouse in Nederland
onebrownmouse.com
If you want great indoor, locally-grown high-altitude bud, this is your place. I like the town and the staff who also grow their own for the store and are very knowledgeable. Prices are great, too.. $14 a gram for primos like Sage and Sour Diesel.


The Bad.....

New Options wellness in Boulder
no website

These are the guys that got robbed, and ya feel those vibes in the staff with every heavy breath in the place. Despite their bad luck, honestly, their wares just suck. I opened and inspected every jar (and they had like 20 different strains) and it seems that no one there knows anything about proper drying and curing. Some of the jars smelled of ammonia!!! WTF! Also, many of their strains are mislabeled and not what they claim to be. Also over-priced at $20 a gram for their better selections when there's such better bud not a mile away.


The Ugly...

Pain Management of Colorado in Denver
colorado.medicalmarijuana.net

They'll sign you up for $350 and have a 70 year old doctor from the Dominican Republic who can't speak English that well. A bit shady in both dealings and location. They had 2 strains on hand when I checked it out and one was just crap, the other was an AK-47 which looked decent, but it just wasn't AK-47. They also have some edibles, but they are very weak. These guys are in it for the money and that's easy to see. BEWARE: If you use these guys to set you up, I hear they will make you select them as your primary caregiver, so you'll have to change that ASAP with the state.

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Originally Posted by topjazzman

Had a chance to go to the new Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine in Golden on opening day.Very nice and clean.the owner had about 8-10 strains in very small jars.The buds were a little small.He is not the grower.The sad thing about this new disp.is his prices very high.100.00 for qt.385.00 for a z.Wow what ever happened to caregiver.He also advertised the first 100 people wil get a free bud in a jar.That did not happen.In the last 6 months we are seeing so many new sellers to the seen.Alot of new stores.You will see in the next yr.how many will close if they do not drop their prices.If you are not growing then yes I do know your prices will be more but with small buds and high prices I will and can not afford to shop there. Shop owners some of us really do need our meds daily and only have so much to spend.Peace Jazz:mad:

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I think you missed the mark on RMOM Jazz. I've seen about a dozen dispensaries in the last few weeks. For one that's been open for a week, he's not doing too bad.

As to the strains... About ten is what I saw. But more importantly, the ones I looked at (Bubba Kush, Trainwreck , Green Crack) all appeared to have been grown by a grower who knew what they were going. Chrystalization, density & smell (the purple smells great-grape!) were at least above average.

As the the buds... Who cares about the size of the buds? Isn't quality the issue? The Trainwrech had a swift & immediate effect. Nice soaring buzz. The Bubba Kush delivered the classic BK schwack. Heavy & relaxing. Exactly what the doctor ordered.

As the the price... John is right. $100/7g is probably slightly below average right now. Something additional to consider on price... While the illegal 'market' price was based largely on risk that has largely gone away, there is the NEW legal 'market' price that will be made up of things like standard business space lease & operating costs, insurance & legal fees (and some interesting upgrades that you really should ask about). While the 'new market' price shouldn't necessarily reflect the 'old market' price, I wouldn't go holding your breath for any big price shifts in the near future.

By the way... I'm not sure what you're talking about with the jars. I got one. An unexpected surprise!

Nice work John! CYA next week for the Green Crack...

Did not miss anything with my review.Small buds mean you are getting the bottom half of the plant not the top.John is not the grower so venders sell what they do not want.The main thing is that you were happy that is what counts.You need to find a good caregiver.Most charge anywhere from 250-325.

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Did not miss anything with my review.Small buds mean you are getting the bottom half of the plant not the top.John is not the grower so venders sell what they do not want.The main thing is that you were happy that is what counts.You need to find a good caregiver.Most charge anywhere from 250-325.

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First, while I can appreciate your opinion, I think your dispersion on average size buds/bud location in a gross generalization. a) Smaller (than huge) bud size does not necessarily mean that the buds are 'lower' buds. Maybe the grower used heavy pruning, creating more smaller buds on the plant... b) a good grower will harvest top-down, so the 'lower' buds will be just as mature... & c) there is also a line of thinking that periodically shaded buds have higher average THC cycle concentrations, as they have not been exposed to as much constant direct UV light. In general though, RMOM's buds were no 'smaller' than elsewhere on my dispensary tour & they were quite potent.

On to more important stuff... I have my issues with store-front dispensaries too. They are quite expensive, but do make good places to go and try many varieties. That said, I am interested in grower/caregivers who operate in lower-cost models and can provide good oz. pricing. Do you have some contact info?

Sorry can not help you.My caregiver is not taking on anymore patients at this time.
I have been to alot of disp.Buffalo Meds in Nederland have alot nicer products than John, their buds are very nice and they can tell you where they do come from.They are also starting to grow.I was there just looking and enjoying the area on sat.I could not help and I bought a qt.of Mandarin Haze.for 80.00.It was great.Nothing there is over 350.z.There is a nice store on 32 in Highlands area.father and daughter ,they are growers and have organic ladies.In june I bought a z for 325 including tax of durbin poison.it was great ,they also have nicer looking ladies than John has,because they are the growers.I am not at all speaking bad of John,it is great to see so many stores opening,but not all are good.another store is in westmester on 72 st.they grow alot of their ladies to ,always 35 + strains.If one can only afford to buy qt.It is alot harder to get nice looking ladies.Tops of the plants are much nicer in every way.You seem to know alot on them you should start growing.peace,jazz

Ps for 100 qt your buds should all be nice !!!! small pieces suck

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Wow, with so many dispensaries charging $120+ for 1/4s, I don't see $100 being gouging at all.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Please come back for your sample. I have several that I am sure you will like.

Thanks for stopping by the store.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine
420 Corporate Circle, I
Golden, CO

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Do you grow there at your store? If so, $100/qr is gouging.

If you don't grow at the store, then you either don't have enough suppliers to meet the demand you're trying to service, in which case seeking additional customers shouldn't be a concern for you, or you're getting ripped off by your suppliers, or you're marking up about $150 an ounce after the fact.

420 Corporte Circle? Maybe the problem is that your landlord is ripping you off. But maybe not, I don't know. In any case, anybody who has been around cannabis for more than a month knows that $100/qr is outrageous.

We can tell that you know you're not giving a good deal because your first and only defense is to throw some unnamed other dispensaries under the bus.

Your argument isn't that you're good, it's that you're not as bad as some of the alternatives. That's a bad argument.

When we talk about prices, let's take a step back and have a look reality before we get too excited.

The legalization/decriminalization of things makes them less expensive, not more so.

The price of gold has been exploding exponentially over the last few years and it's currently at a little less than $1000/oz. They say "money doesn't grow on trees," but cannabis does (figuratively speaking). Should two and a half ounces of cannabis be worth a one ounce bar of gold?

How about the prices of some other agricultural products retailing on the consumer level? Let's see...Tobacco. It's a much more volatile substance, so not only do the tobacco companies have to deal with the pseudo-legality of their product, they also have to dish out big money for lawsuits and money for civil suit lawyers.

A pack of the most expensive brand name pre-rolled cigarettes weighs 1.1 ounces and retails for around $5. That's including all the packaging, papers and filters too. Rolling your own costs even less, and they usually throw in a complimentary pack of rolling papers.

I'm not saying that marijuana should cost $5 an ounce, and I want to see people able to make a profit from the industry and be able to support themselves while doing work that spreads awareness and acceptance of cannabis as a medicine. But it damn sure shouldn't cost as much as most dispensaries are charging, even the ones who are selling at "only" $100 for a quarter. Even on the black market a quarter from someone who knows where to get it only retails for about $75-$90.

If the dispensaries can't get the prices down they're not going to survive in a legal market. I suggest patients choose private caregivers and caregiver co-operatives; who/which retail marijuana for between $200-$300. Those are the growers, and the growers' co-ops. Private caregivers and caregiver cooperatives are less likely than the dispensaries to be raided, and if your dispensary ends up like one of the dispensaries in Colorado that recently got raided by the feds then your name and documentation goes into a federal database. The feds don't have time for individuals who are growing enough for only a couple of other people, they will continue raiding the dispensaries.

The huge DEA operation in Hawaii that went on just a couple days ago targeted all the dispensaries on several islands, it was not focusing on rounding up caregivers, it was engaged in a shock and awe mass-raid of the dispensaries. So maybe it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment. I think it could be done, but if it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment that's no reason to rip people off in order to do so when there are other legal and much more affordable alternatives ot there, of better quality. Let's face it, the dispensaries that aren't growing their own are getting somebody else's leftovers, who is keeping the better stuff for themselves and their patients. That's why the tiny buds, caregivers can only legally have 2 ounces of product per patient, and when they get more than that in a single harvest (six or even three plants can give you waay more than 2 ounces), they sell the excess to dispensaries who in essence recieve and mark up a product that's inferior to the cheaper version.

Dispensaries that grow their own are at least possibly producing an equivalent product to what smaller scale gardeners are producing, but still their retail products are overpriced. Really, mass-producers don't produce the same quality product that small-scale producers do, but they may have a larger strain selection.

The only reason I can ever imagine going to a dispensary that didn't grow its own would be for convenience, like going through the drive-thru at mcdonalds. You're not there for price, it'd be cheaper to shop at the grocery store. You're damn sure not there for the quality. You're there for convenience, because it's a way to get yourself a little something to hold yourself over until it's time to make a real purchase.

I know I'm new here, but I have to disagree with OP on Pain Management of Colorado. Admittedly I am not a patient myself; I don't have a qualifying condition and I try to keep on the right side of the law so that I can be an effective political advocate for legalization. But with the caveat that as a non-patient I haven't actually tried their product, I think PMoC has a lot going for them.

For one thing, they have medical marijuana dispensaries in Boulder, Denver, Vail, Colorado Springs, Fort Collins and Aspen, and they're opening more. Convenient if you have to get your medicine while traveling. The people involved seem to me to be very passionate about medical marijuana advocacy and helping patients. I know that when another local dispensary was found not to be handicapped-accessible, the head of PMoC was willing to reach out to disability advocates and seek their advice on how to build new dispensaries to allow patients with disabilities to gain easy access. I don't think someone just in it for the money would volunteer to spend extra $$$ on construction to help patients out like that.

Granted, the loads of dispensaries with various medical marijuana doctors probably have varying quality--I'm only really familiar with the Denver and Boulder people.

And, waxing philosophical for a moment, I honestly like seeing a larger company dealing with medical marijuana in Colorado and expanding to other states. I think that legalization will finally happen when business demands it. Politicians aren't listening to the over 70% of ordinary Americans who want legalization now; they'll only listen when it affects their bottom lines. Once the business community starts to tell Congress and state legislatures that they want legalization and the politicians realize how much tax revenue could be made that way, we'll finally be able to change the image of marijuana advocates from "a bunch of stoners" to "ordinary business people with families who use, buy or sell marijuana and/or support others' right to do so."

Well, honestly does one really have to name names to find a dispensary charging more than $100/qt? I am not throwing anyone under any bus.

Dispensaries exist so people who don't have a connection to a grower can have a safe, friendly, reliable place to buy their medicine. If people have a safe and reliable connection without going to a dispensary, great. For those who don't, we are here.

As far as quality goes, I have no problem putting my product under a scope for anyone. It is top shelf. I also have a sampling room on site. Bring your glass. Sample anything in the store before you purchase. I encourage it.

So, Naturelover, before you dismiss a store for its high prices, please come in and see what we have, get a taste, and then make a decision.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine

re: $100 quarters

I've paid a good bit more than that on a price-per-gram basis; I think most patients probably have. $100 quarters don't exactly make me jump for joy, but I don't think that's exorbitant if the medicine is top notch. I live in a different part of the state or I would definitely be visiting John and sampling his medicine. The fact that he encourages his patients/customers to scope and sample before they purchase is a good sign, IMO.

Also, I can't wait to visit the Boulder/Denver area and try some of these places.

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re: $100 quarters

The fact that he encourages his patients/customers to scope and sample before they purchase is a good sign, IMO.

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In my on-going dispensary tour... He's the only one that I've run into that allows sampling (nice work John!). But, I'm kinda torn on this issue...

On one hand, it seems only right that an entity that sells a consumable, that cost as much as a precious metal per oz, encourages and is allowed to provide sampling. On the other hand, this has the potential to attract unwanted attention. And some will argue that... Without a designated driver, this type of thing might violate a principle of responsible cannabis use.

I hope this aspect of dispensaries will work out. But at the same time, I hope the people utilizing this service understand how much of an extremely experimental privilege it is right now & treat it as such.

If this were to work out well at RMOM, and a given dispensary was allowed, it would be hard for dispensaries, in the future, not to offer such a service. However, it this goes bad at RMOM, the sampling issues may never be heard from again.

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Well, honestly does one really have to name names to find a dispensary charging more than $100/qt? I am not throwing anyone under any bus.

Dispensaries exist so people who don't have a connection to a grower can have a safe, friendly, reliable place to buy their medicine. If people have a safe and reliable connection without going to a dispensary, great. For those who don't, we are here.

As far as quality goes, I have no problem putting my product under a scope for anyone. It is top shelf. I also have a sampling room on site. Bring your glass. Sample anything in the store before you purchase. I encourage it.

So, Naturelover, before you dismiss a store for its high prices, please come in and see what we have, get a taste, and then make a decision.

John
Rocky Mountain Organic Medicine

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Fair enough, I'll do so. And as far as the frustration I expressed in previous posts, I'll make it clear that my frustration is with my experience of the dispensary business model so far, it's not with your store in particular. From now on I'll save my ranting for other threads and use this thread just for specific reviews of dispensaries I've personally been to.

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Originally Posted by topjazzman

Sorry can not help you.My caregiver is not taking on anymore patients at this time.
I have been to alot of disp.Buffalo Meds in Nederland have alot nicer products than John, their buds are very nice and they can tell you where they do come from.They are also starting to grow.I was there just looking and enjoying the area on sat.I could not help and I bought a qt.of Mandarin Haze.for 80.00.It was great.Nothing there is over 350.z.There is a nice store on 32 in Highlands area.father and daughter ,they are growers and have organic ladies.In june I bought a z for 325 including tax of durbin poison.it was great ,they also have nicer looking ladies than John has,because they are the growers.I am not at all speaking bad of John,it is great to see so many stores opening,but not all are good.another store is in westmester on 72 st.they grow alot of their ladies to ,always 35 + strains.If one can only afford to buy qt.It is alot harder to get nice looking ladies.Tops of the plants are much nicer in every way.You seem to know alot on them you should start growing.peace,jazz

Ps for 100 qt your buds should all be nice !!!! small pieces suck

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so what r u saying all the growers/shops should only sell the tops? and do what with the smallers ones throw them away? also i find it funny u say u know all the smaller buds are from the lower half of the plant.i can grow the very bottom branches and have them come out bigger than alot of growers tops.also i've seen some growers that produce small buds all over even the tops.also there have been times when smaller buds pack just as much punch all depends on strain and also who's growing it too.

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When we talk about prices, let's take a step back and have a look reality before we get too excited.

The legalization/decriminalization of things makes them less expensive, not more so.

The price of gold has been exploding exponentially over the last few years and it's currently at a little less than $1000/oz. They say "money doesn't grow on trees," but cannabis does (figuratively speaking). Should two and a half ounces of cannabis be worth a one ounce bar of gold?

How about the prices of some other agricultural products retailing on the consumer level? Let's see...Tobacco. It's a much more volatile substance, so not only do the tobacco companies have to deal with the pseudo-legality of their product, they also have to dish out big money for lawsuits and money for civil suit lawyers.

A pack of the most expensive brand name pre-rolled cigarettes weighs 1.1 ounces and retails for around $5. That's including all the packaging, papers and filters too. Rolling your own costs even less, and they usually throw in a complimentary pack of rolling papers.

I'm not saying that marijuana should cost $5 an ounce, and I want to see people able to make a profit from the industry and be able to support themselves while doing work that spreads awareness and acceptance of cannabis as a medicine. But it damn sure shouldn't cost as much as most dispensaries are charging, even the ones who are selling at "only" $100 for a quarter. Even on the black market a quarter from someone who knows where to get it only retails for about $75-$90.

If the dispensaries can't get the prices down they're not going to survive in a legal market. I suggest patients choose private caregivers and caregiver co-operatives; who/which retail marijuana for between $200-$300. Those are the growers, and the growers' co-ops. Private caregivers and caregiver cooperatives are less likely than the dispensaries to be raided, and if your dispensary ends up like one of the dispensaries in Colorado that recently got raided by the feds then your name and documentation goes into a federal database. The feds don't have time for individuals who are growing enough for only a couple of other people, they will continue raiding the dispensaries.

The huge DEA operation in Hawaii that went on just a couple days ago targeted all the dispensaries on several islands, it was not focusing on rounding up caregivers, it was engaged in a shock and awe mass-raid of the dispensaries. So maybe it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment. I think it could be done, but if it's not economical to own a dispensary yet in the current legal environment that's no reason to rip people off in order to do so when there are other legal and much more affordable alternatives ot there, of better quality. Let's face it, the dispensaries that aren't growing their own are getting somebody else's leftovers, who is keeping the better stuff for themselves and their patients. That's why the tiny buds, caregivers can only legally have 2 ounces of product per patient, and when they get more than that in a single harvest (six or even three plants can give you waay more than 2 ounces), they sell the excess to dispensaries who in essence recieve and mark up a product that's inferior to the cheaper version.

Dispensaries that grow their own are at least possibly producing an equivalent product to what smaller scale gardeners are producing, but still their retail products are overpriced. Really, mass-producers don't produce the same quality product that small-scale producers do, but they may have a larger strain selection.

The only reason I can ever imagine going to a dispensary that didn't grow its own would be for convenience, like going through the drive-thru at mcdonalds. You're not there for price, it'd be cheaper to shop at the grocery store. You're damn sure not there for the quality. You're there for convenience, because it's a way to get yourself a little something to hold yourself over until it's time to make a real purchase.

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your babbling on, bottom line is it will bring what the market will bare simple.also it's his stuff he can sell it for what he wants where i come from 400 an oz is the norm.also if it's so easy and cheap and can be done for free then why even bother with a shop do it your self since it's free and all.

i mean since all the equipment and electric and overhead is free also then i don't know why you would even care what he's doing. im not taking up for him don't even know him but i find it very odd when peole say someone is a rip off for charging what ever they charge as if it cost nothing to do.forget all the cost u still sumwhat have to worry about leo still and robbers too.:wtf::smokin:but im sure im wrong i could see bitching about gas prices as u can't make your own but your legal and u want to whine about this dude when if it's so free and easy do it yourself huh?

ps mcdonalds is cheaper when is the last time u went to the store? say tacobell u go buy 10 tacos@59cents each total around 6$ to buy the same stuff thats in those tacos at the store would cost you 16 $ go see for yourself.

ps the 2 1/2 oz worth an oz of gold stuff i say this after all the money for equipment,overhead,leo,robbers,neighbors being nosey and so on u still have all the time that grower spends growing it and caring for it.so are you saying that that person that is doing all of this should do it all for free just to give it to a person thats looking for a free handout? why i say that cause thats how it sounds when u could do all of it yourself? i'll say to u like i said b4 to another since it's free and this guy is a rip off for charging what he is then put your money where your mouth is and u do all the growing and i want to see u hand it out for totally free k?..... yea did'nt think so

would u expect to go to your job and them tell you that you should work for free and to quit being so greedy for wanting the wage you want per hr? again did'nt think so.....wow

Just a thought to think about:

Cargiver what does that really mean?
Being very sick that meds do help you with pain and mental heath.
Having very little money !!
CAREGIVER somewhere in the 400.oz the meaning gets lost.


Black market wanting to smoke to fill good,still 400 oz.

Peace JAZZ :question:

Palerider, you can do what you like, whatever works for you. For those who are finding it easier to find dispensaries than it is to find a grower or caregiver's co-operative I would suggest they just go to MMJ Community events, like the cannabis health fair in Boulder tomorrow. Having trouble finding access to affordable products of competitive quality, that might be a good place to go. Otherwise there are lots of patient advocacy meetings in boulder, denver, colorado springs, pueblo and probably just about everywhere else. If you need help finding one in your area let me know and I'll help you out. The people who run patient advocacy groups are very good at getting patients their medicine as though it is medicine and not a luxury.

I won't say anything more about John's shop until I visit it. I go to dispensaries and review them as an act of patient advocacy and will continue to do so. I have actually just over the past few days been developing a ten point checklist for things I look for in a dispensary to review, so from now on when I review a dispensary there will be a formula and it will offer a lot of information, and will be easily comparable to other dispensaries I've reviewed. I'll give you an example in an upcoming post, when I get back to reviewing the dispensaries.