Whos in the right?

Alright I am growing at my friends house. He is a total broke, lazy, and quite stupid fellow. I cant grow at my own house because i live with my parents and they dont want to risk it. My friend has a house and his mom is completely nuts from the recent divorce from her husband and she doesnt give a fuck what we do so shes letting us grow. He has no money(but he still buys bags and fucking energy drinks that lieing mother fucker) so i told him i would fund the grow as long as 1. I took the first few ounces to pay off my intial debt and 2. we split it 50/50 after that. the other day i told him that when its all over with i am taking my lights, pots, mylar, and whatever the fuck I paid for. He said that he doesn't think I should take everything because im getting paid off with the intial crop, he thinks theyre half his. Also he tried to tell me that if i take the lights and grow somewhere else that he wants in on it too, just because im growing at his house. He is just trying to be a little bitch. I paid for the lights,(and everything for that matter) therefor it is all MINE, and no one else's. If i choose to grow somewhere (unless he decides to fund it), he isn't getting shit. Am I right or just being an asshole.

If he claims he is a broke MF I would not grow there at all, think about it*,any advise is null from my point on.

You broke the cardinal rule when you went into a business arrangement with someone who has no business. Don't get into a bunch of drama and create and enemy that KNOWS what you are up to. I'd leave him enough shit to shut him up walk away free and clear to live and grow another day.

All that shit can be replaced, and if you are the resourceful one of the 2, you should have no problem getting up and running again. Only the next time you will have learned from your mistakes on this one, so it will go better for you. Plus, you won't have 50% coming off the top to support someone else.

Just my penny and a half.
Peace.

Because he's only supplying a safe spot, I'd say you're correct. He's just a little clingy. You two should be even when you give him (a "broke" friend) some free pot, no matter how big or small the quantity. Tell him to look at it that way. He could be left with absolutely nothing, and if he put in no money, he gets nothing out. So you're being nice in the end. Simple

he put nothing into it. Im investing something into it and getting something in return. he is investing absolutely nothing expect for free space and getting something in return. I pay for it, I leave with it. Thats what Im gunna do in the end.

The guy deserves some amount of weed from the harvest, and it sounds like you've been fair there = 50/50 after you recoup. You may want to offer 50/50 from the start, as he/his mom are taking a risk in allowing you to grow at their house. Such a risk is deserving of something, and 50% of the harvest is a fine deal for him - he should be happy. I assume it will not be a huge harvest though - maximum of 3 ounces to him sounds fair. With that said, he has no claim to the equipment or any future grows.

Your concession to keep him happy should be to increase his take from 50/50 after your initial take to a straight 50/50; he should be happy with this move, thereby ceasing any further argument about equipment and future grows.

I think this resolution is fair.

id have to say half of the equipment is his since the money to pay for the equipment will be coming from your profit which was to be split 50\50.

and you trust him with your plants in his house,...

i think irydium sayed it best. since your taking the cost of equip off the top you both own half the equip. so take half and buy more better shit with your recoup like a mobetter light.

and technically his risk is much larger than yours when the cops come and your at home, shit

the whole situation; has disaster, written all over it

A couple of things peaked my interest here...

If you have such a dim view of this guy, yet still chose to do business with him...you will get what's coming.

If you can't trust him with regards to the equipment, what makes you think that you can trust him through harvest and dividing the spoils? Will he be sneaking a bud on occation, leaving you nothing?

What does his freaked-out mom think?

I'd divide everything, and avoid the guy in the future. If he has nothing but scammer written actross his forehead, does yours say 'sucker'?

I'm in about the same situation, growing at his house cuz hes got a free house. I'm waiting till first harvest, taking my plant, and box (I built him a nice dual spectrum box) and leaving. Who knows, I might get something from the hydro, but if not, oh well. I know they will die or not be worth it cuz he doesnt know shit about growin plants.

you could sell the lot once done and split it 50/50 then do 3 clones 2 for you (to cover your lights etc) and 1 plant for him.

Thats a fair deal (a friend of mine did this once and he was ok)

doesn't everyone have that friend they've known theyre entire life and trust with their life, but hes just lacks common sense sometimes. I mean shit one of the leaves is starting to yellow because we are in the 5th week of flowering and he starts freaking out thinking theyre gunna die.

Hes not gunna scam me, or steal from me, he just wants me to let him in on anything in the future because when i leave with everything he wont have the money or the brains to do it by himself.

Everything wouldn't have come together if it wasn't for me funding it, and everything wouldn't be happening if he didn't have a place to do it. Everything from the plastic on the ground, to the fertalizers and pots was bought with my money(i even started the plants at my house and moved them over to his). Im putting tons of money into this shit and hes not putting a dime in. Just because were using his house doesn't mean hes entilted to half of MY things. Ill split it straight 50/50 after i get out of debt from it. I think thats more than generous.

thank you all for giving me your opinion

is it uncommon among marijuana cultivators to actually want to grab a juicy nug and eat it?(not saying i would, but the urge is there)

You both set out to grow together man and unless you get another "friend" who is just as long a friend and you trust them as much as you do this one im afraid your in for more of the same as he is taking a huge risk
And as you say your paying back the debt so techniclly you both own it and he would be entitled to 50/50 plus you will have a grow room that works my opinion is typical human nature is greed takes over as usual its people like that that have the price of weed as high as it is just pay the bill start another grow kick your friends ass and make him help out and next time youll get nothing but totally free bud split 50/50

Your most recent post changed my mind...Either he is a friend or he isn't. The tenor of your original post was that he was scamming you, now you appologize for over-representing his behavior...?
If you are feeling that you are better than your friend, perhaps it's time to drop the adolescent drama queen bullshit, grow-up, and share as originally agreed-upon.
You only risk the financial loss for the equipment and supplies...he risks getting busted and the increased possibility of fire or flood, or getting robbed for the stash, and his mom gets stuck with the electric bill.

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Originally Posted by drudown11

doesn't everyone have that friend they've known theyre entire life and trust with their life, but hes just lacks common sense sometimes.

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Usually, I have a better opinion of my friends than:
"He is a total broke, lazy, and quite stupid fellow."
"...that lieing mother fucker"
" He is just trying to be a little bitch."
Your statements are, in my opinion, something one would say about a relative or a neighbor. But if I ever felt this way about a friend, I'd drop them as a friend. Conversely, were one of my 'friends' talking about me as you are about him...they'd lose more than their equipment. (a couple of teeth, minimum)
He offered you his home to grow cannabis together, likely with the full understanding that it would be his bust were something to go wrong. In some states, Mom could lose her home.

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Originally Posted by drudown11

Just because were using his house doesn't mean hes entilted to half of MY things. Ill split it straight 50/50 after i get out of debt from it. I think thats more than generous.

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Depends on your original deal, but it sounds like you want to change the rules of the game at halftime.

Thank him for the use of his home, thank the mom, and use this experience to understand that a co-operative effort only works if all are aiming at the same goal. Maybe buy him a nice bong or something to show you apperciate the fact that without him...you would be sucking on bagweed.

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Originally Posted by drudown11

doesn't everyone have that friend they've known theyre entire life and trust with their life, but hes just lacks common sense sometimes. I mean shit one of the leaves is starting to yellow because we are in the 5th week of flowering and he starts freaking out thinking theyre gunna die.

Hes not gunna scam me, or steal from me, he just wants me to let him in on anything in the future because when i leave with everything he wont have the money or the brains to do it by himself.

Everything wouldn't have come together if it wasn't for me funding it, and everything wouldn't be happening if he didn't have a place to do it. Everything from the plastic on the ground, to the fertalizers and pots was bought with my money(i even started the plants at my house and moved them over to his). Im putting tons of money into this shit and hes not putting a dime in. Just because were using his house doesn't mean hes entilted to half of MY things. Ill split it straight 50/50 after i get out of debt from it. I think thats more than generous.

thank you all for giving me your opinion

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Split the first havest 50/50 and take ur shit and go elsewhere. No reason to prolong the situation and create more drama. Thank him for his kindness in allowing u to use his place and figure someting else out. I would not give up my equipment either after i paid outta my own pocket without his help!!!

Guidance

technically its not out of his pocket, all he is doing is taking money out of his future profit which is supposed to be split 50/50 so the equipment is some of the profit therefore each guy gets half the equipment and half the money. In my opinion the risk is worth more that the work and the other guy should get more than 50% but thats just me.

i wouldn`t even split the first crop just for his cheek,just because you used his house dont mean he owns half your shit.....tell him to start his own grow the lazy,selfish,greedy prick.

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Originally Posted by DaddyCool

i wouldn`t even split the first crop just for his cheek,just because you used his house dont mean he owns half your shit.....tell him to start his own grow the lazy,selfish,greedy prick.

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I think you are the selfish one there buddy. Putting his house on the line isn't a big deal? Does anyone actually read or do they just skim through it and post? he says he is taking the money he put into the equipment out of the profit and then wants to split THE REST of the profit with his partner. so basically he wants alot more than 50% of the profits, does anyone understand this??? because it makes perfect sense to me. it is his "shit" for now until it is no longer paid for with his money but rather the profit which is 50/50.

yeah i just got it there....oops!! i see what you mean he wants to take half the profit of the crop which i think is correct but i just clicked on that he wants to take some more profit to cover the equipment but he`s taking the equipment with him so the guy supplying the place to grow is getting very little profit and none of the equipment. thats not right.

good man

Ain't it funny how a few bucks can fuck up a FRIENDSHIP? I'd have to ask myself the big question...What's worth more - the buddy or a little bit of cash?

Yea a friendship can turn sour over one crop lol. As i said before split the first crop and hit the road. Its your equip that YOU paid for. If u were to do another run I'd agree that gear should be split 50/50 as well but why bother if its a hassle already?? Its best to do these things on your own...now u know ;)

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Originally Posted by IrieLion

Yea a friendship can turn sour over one crop lol. As i said before split the first crop and hit the road. Its your equip that YOU paid for. If u were to do another run I'd agree that gear should be split 50/50 as well but why bother if its a hassle already?? Its best to do these things on your own...now u know ;)

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holy shit another one, HE didn't pay for it with HIS money, he is using the profit which was to be split 50/50. The equipment is now part of the profit.

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Originally Posted by michaelpeg

holy shit another one, HE didn't pay for it with HIS money, he is using the profit which was to be split 50/50. The equipment is now part of the profit.

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I totally agree with you, and personally I would not have anything to do with either one of them until they GREW UP.
I bet this guy's mom will pay more for the electricity than the price of all his gear.

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Originally Posted by michaelpeg

holy shit another one, HE didn't pay for it with HIS money, he is using the profit which was to be split 50/50. The equipment is now part of the profit.

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From what I have read Nothing has been havested yet so technically the equipment is HIS at this point!!!! I suggested they harvest the current round and part ways after a 50/50 split of the herbs. Leaving each of them with herb to do as he or she pleases. How does that make the equip part of the "profit" if they are both gettin an equal share of the harvest? If he decides to take all of the first harvest to recoup cost of all expenses then yes they should split the gear up but I say dont even let it get to that point. Does that not make sense???

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Originally Posted by IrieLion

From what I have read Nothing has been havested yet so technically the equipment is HIS at this point!!!! I suggested they harvest the current round and part ways after a 50/50 split of the herbs. Leaving each of them with herb to do as he or she pleases. How does that make the equip part of the "profit" if they are both gettin an equal share of the harvest? If he decides to take all of the first harvest to recoup cost of all expenses then yes they should split the gear up but I say dont even let it get to that point. Does that not make sense???

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no not at all. first you say it is his at this point which makes it seem like you understand but then you go and ask how does that make the equipment part of the profit. they wont be spliting the herbs 50/50 if he takes enough herbs out to compensate for the equipment and then split the rest. sure it is his at this point but after the harvest it is 50% his. Why should the equipment be split only if the guy takes the full harvest that doesn't make any sense. anyways im tired of saying the same thing over the point is for the guy that posted this thread to understand what im saying.