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Yo whats up guys. I usually have a little problem with budworms after harvest and this year im spraying with bacillus to gain the upper hand. Does anyone know the best time to apply BT to get the most affective application? Morning? Night? I also was wondering how far into the flowering stage it is safe to use it? Would pyrethrum be better to use? My plants are just beggining to form their leaf clusters and early flowers. Thanks for reading braz!
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As a general note, applying any pesticide to the actual flowers of the plant is a bad idea. If you are trying to take care of a plant issue you can try to catch them very early and kill them with Isopropyl alcohol, neem oil, or fish soap. If you want to get really fancy, you can try to introduce some predator insects that will leave your plants alone, but will feast on the little pests.
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Ya for sure. Bacillus is a bacterium specific to caterpillars. It dosnt really seem to have any effects on the plant when sprayed. I just want to know when the best time to spray is, aka when the caterpillars are feeding.
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Studied Bacillus spp. in microbio last semester - intersting soil critters known for producing endospores if the environment is harsh
Neat that they attack caterpillars
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Idk how to apply bacillus but I do know how it works because I studied it briefly during my january interim last year. Once Bacillus is ingested by an insect, the chemical effectively crystallizes the inside of the bug and pulls it all out the back...it sounds unbelievably painful, but then again I don't believe bugs feel pain. Try doing a google search on how to apply BT
Peace,
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Ya thats some crazy shit, wouldn't wana be a caterpillar on my plants! I guess ill have to see what I can find. :rasta:
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Originally Posted by DOUGAL25
Ya so they don't really have any effect on the plant itself then right?
No, they don't harm the plant - this microbe (BT) is always present in soil and therefore on plants...just the way it is in natureQuote:
Originally Posted by Chronabis
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I don't think it's always present in soil. It must be added as a concentrate in order to have the desired effect. Where did you get that BT was in all soil?
You want to apply it at night because as soon as UV light reaches BT it starts to break down. It it only lasts for a certain amount of days so you have to reapply because it only kills young caterpillars Not the eggs, so while your killing the cats the moths are possibly laying more eggs which means it's an ongoing process of watching out for cats and applying BT.
It's located in soils across the globe - in any handful of dirt, it's pretty certain you're going to find Bacillus spp.
Now it's not going to be all Bacillus thuringiensis, but theres a good chance you'll find BT or its endospores.
The point is it is very common and does not hurt plants, but defends them.
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This is why I hated and still hate the idea of "new leaf potatoes"...they're ruining the cleanest pesticide known to man...not to mention causing unnatural mutations in nature...can't us humans stop effing with nature on such a broad scale? We're really gonna screw ourselves over just to satisfy our own curiosity. It's like we're trying to test different ways to destroy the environment and then speculate how long it will take each method to destroy us...Quote:
Originally Posted by DOUGAL25
Yowsers, bit of a rant...but who can argue this? Curiosity kills the mother effing cat is all I gotta say...
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Originally Posted by SauceeMcGee
It's scientists way of "playing god" - which can definitely have detrimental effects.
I don't trust those bio-engineered potatoes! Just glad I don't eat them.
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They used to be grown specifically for the use as McDonald's french fries...then people started complaining because they didn't want to be eating french fries with pesticides in them (legit complaint) and then their popularity went way down. Yes the technology is cool, but so are atomic bombs...and we shouldn't be using those either...Quote:
Originally Posted by DOUGAL25
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Ya sweet great point man. Good to know that its safe to apply often. I guess I'll have to keep watching for those bastard fucking moths. Know of any effective traps for them? I've been using this one moth trap but is not effective at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimondmyne
Dudes say they use those zappers for mosquitoes. I have an idea but not sure how to implement it. They sell pyrethrum sprays to restaurants and they have a timer that let's out a little "Pssst"(a small spray) every few minutes or something and it keeps flies and whatever away also kills them and this stuff is safe for food prep areas. So if I could just hire one of those bums from savemart who keeps hitting me up for change to just kick back and spray a little pyrethrums in the air every ten minutes or so we'll be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronabis
I don't know how effective a spray would really work...
1.) If your room is properly ventilated, the spray won't stay stagnant in the air and do its job
2.) I don't know if I would want a pesticide spray being exposed to my vulnerable buds during flowering
3.) No pest strips are a god send, and so is isopropyl alcohol
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