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I am 7 weeks into flowering using CFLs and this strain is supposed to take 6-8 weeks, however the ladies don't appear (to the naked eye) to be anywhere near being done.
I am wondering, does it takes longer for the flower phase to complete under CFLs than it does under an HPS or the Sun?
Does the estimated "6-8" week flowering account for any usable type of light? Or a specific light?
Thanks.
...Anyone?
I am also curious to see the answer to this question, as I haven't noticed (I could be blind) any threads that tell you to switch lighting, or that any lighting is necessarily better than others.
I don't use CFLs myself, but I don't remember reading that things take longer to finish under them.
There are numerous things that could make your plants go longer than you think they should. And, even in stable genetics, individual plants are just that, individuals.
So, maybe if you posted a picture and some information about the plant(s), someone could make a diagnosis?
Factors including long time finishers are:
- Heat
- How much lighting
- How close the lights are
- PH going in and out
- Feeding schedule (how often give nutes)
- Type of CFL lights
- How many CFL light (lumen output)
- and so on and so forth
You can't just base that a paper says it takes 6-8 weeks and go by that, because like above there are tons of factors that make a plant take longer and depending on how bad the situation it may not even get bigger, it may just mature rather than fill in. Heat will do that especially if not tended to correctly!
I know many different factors can have an impact on the outcome of your crop but hypothetically, if two different crops with virtually identical environments except one has a 400w HPS and the other has equal wattage of CFL's, would the crop under the CFL's take longer to mature?
I dont think that light will effect your flowering time...every other factor it will though. i.e. potency, taste, yield
When using CFL's it doesn't have the same lumen output as a HPS, so you would virtually have to use more wattage from the CFL's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man1fesT
Basically 250W of CFLs is not the same as 250W HPS...The HPS has a lot more lumen output then the CFLs, plus the HPS penetrates further into the canopy usually resulting in bigger buds, I.E. all other conditions are met.
Lumen output is only part of the story. Is the hps air cooled? That glass takes out 10%+. Do you have your one light 3 feet above the highest part of your unkept canopy? (I Don't mean you, just hypothetical :) )
You get were I am going though right? I think equal would come out fairly equal if you do a banging job!
To the original poster: If you have everything dialed in, and are efficiently using 10000 lumens per square foot, you shouldn't have a longer harvest period. That would assume shorties or SCROG though. Otherwise, the plant will get weird if you let them get very tall or very far away from bulb.
2"-4" max. Oh, that's a lot of Cfl's per square foot though. 7 23 watters of the "bright white" I just saw would be 105000 lumens. That's a lot of bulbs in a small spot. So realistically, you will probably use less, and it will take a little longer. But with time, ingenuity, and good venting, you could do it. imo
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Originally Posted by Italiano715
On my previous grow I had 18-20 light bulbs (CFL) that produced about 30 000 lumens on 2 plants. Took 3 months of flowering.
Wow, that\'s pretty crazy! 3 months? I\'m using 12 CFLs as it is and it looks like I\'m a few weeks away. Hopefully my grow isn\'t extended like yours....I wanna smoke these suckers already! Heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyBone
ahh! im thinking about growing 2 ladies under 8 23 watters and all this talk of 3 months of flowering is nottt what i want to hear!
Get a 250-400w hps and proper ventilation instead, you'll be glad you did :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Creeper34
i just did some math and i think using the 8 lights i was thinking about using i will only get like 14,000 lumens? if my grow room is approx. 3' x 3' is that even enough? i read just a few posts up that you need 10,000 per square foot? :( this is making my head spin. ive done stuff outdoors before and you dont really gotta worry about lumens hahaha this indoor grow will be my first attempt at it.
SORRY FOR STEALING THE THREAD!
Hehe the thread's a year old, don't think anyone will mind ;)
For a 3 x 3 space, go with a 400w hps. If you have the money and means for the ventilation, a 600w would be even better. But either way you go you'll be spending about as much on the ventilation as the lighting. It might seem like a big investment at first, but if all goes well you're looking at .5 grams per watt and up.
EDIT: Forgot to add, shoot for 5000+ lumens per square foot, and you're good :thumbsup:
keep in mind that the finishing times given by seed boutiques are the EARLIEST a strain is considered done. this is not the most optimum time to harvest. as always, use the indications given to you by the plant as when to harvest, not words on a website.
-shake
What strains are you growing? I currently use 1x 250W HO CFL per sq foot totalling 8ft and have always finished flowering within a week of the stated finishing times, also what is your light schedule?Quote:
Originally Posted by Man1fesT
Plus, different cannabis has different flowering lengths. From 8 to 12 weeks depending on strain. So it might not be your lights. So you can't say that the cfl made it take that long. That's your own opinion. I use cfl's for veg and flower, and have not ever have a problem with my 8 week flower. To each his own.
bump a PISS_ANT post,
Started to get snarky, after all he's never had problems. :D
You show a great level of maturity, This is the 4th or 5th post i have you wasted time out of your day, just to show everyone onine how sad your life is. Dont worry man theres somone out there for you still, dont give up mann. I feel your pain, your old, lonley with nothing to do all day besides make negitive posts. Some how i think you like me more than a male is supposed to like another male. Im starting to think that you love me. Thats kinda sad mannn.... What are you gonna just live life bitter till its your roll call? Come on harass somone else. All because i said that people on here dont like to help people. Your just proving my point. you must be 13 becase your acting like your still in high school. Like i said before, ill take my 2 months of knowlede over your 25 years of bullshitt. You grow shwag level meds. Your a bum. And a bitter old fart:pimp:Quote:
Originally Posted by oldmac
Sorry to the owner of this thread, This oldmac guy has no respect for others.
And thats why i call you better. Do you smell moth balls?????
Hey DoeBoy742,Quote:
Originally Posted by doeboy742
The OP probably doesn't mind.....the threads over a year old, you stupid little PISS-Ant.
BTW I have plenty of respect for others, but when some litte PISS-ANT is not going to show me respect, well then you going to pay the price.
Harass someone else?.....I don't think so, I think I'll make harassing you my life's work now, MY little stupid PISS-ANT.
OM
Hey Doeboy you asked for it with your comment back in the "fed up" thread. Why you even bothered I have no clue. What do you have the right to be fed up about?? How many grows are under your belt?? 2 people responded directly to the post you made and you prob didnt even read what we had to say, instead tuck your tail and run. We are not chasing you down we just would like to see if your gonna come back and finish what your comment started.
Doeboy I dont imagine you would have any problems with cfl's for both veg and flower since your first grow didnt start until 9/30/10! So exactly how much first hand knowledge are you speaking from??
Why thank you Tiny, for joining the Troll Patrol.
I'm not going to permit someone to come in my house, in this case cancom, and insult me or others and have them think they can get away with it. So far his responces have been insults abt my age, homophobic remarks, and other childish BS.
Since there has been no hatefull responce since my last bump,
I will not mention him, here or now.
OM
Count me in also! This twit deffinetly needs to learn some manners. I had a slight incident myself where he tried to give a ½ assed excuse for talking to someone else like crap. I cant stand when someone takes the time and courage to ask a question, and get knocked down by some moron who is obviously trying to make their selves look smarter than they actualy are.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldmac
Its about time we stand up against the assholes in the world!:thumbsup:
OM, what are you going to do now that your little insect has been fumigated? :clap:
I was going through the member list and saw variations of the same name. Does that mean once they are banned they come back in a poor disguise to spread some more of their manure? :toilet_claw: (I tried to find some sort of dung/crap/poop smilie but I guess they don't have one so this one was close enough haha.)
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by RAINHAZE
psst, I got a friend in my list now RH! :thumbsup: Thanks! :D
I'm just going to go back to what I ususally do here, I'll answer questions when I want to. Mostly that is based on if I have some first hand knowledge of a subject or can add something to the conversation. Sometimes I'll answer a newbie whose question has been ignored for awhile, if it's a legit Q and my A might get the thread rolling. Plus I'm interested in advanced forms of lighting and growing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynhal
BTW, I'm sure they come back sometimes. But if admin/mods are paying attention and see the same ISP addy, they'll can them again.
In fact just before I logged off earlier, I saw a nick I thought was supicious.
When I came on just before, to check it out, it was gone from "Introduce yourself" so, it might have been my pest......:)
OM
They removed "doecaptain" too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynhal
'twas a troll with an alias queue.
An' howzit, Lynhal, how'r you?
Aloha,
Weeze.
Poor admins, with thousands of pages of members that job must be daunting! They must keep their eyes peeled for the new members joining right after they '86 one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezard
I'm doing well today Weeze thanks for asking and how about yourself? What's the 411? :smokin:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynhal
Peachy keen, thanks!:)
An' 'roun' heah, it's 611 alla time.
An since we agreed that it can take a bit longer for cfl flowering, (see, on topic.:)), now were jus' killin' dat time if the OP no mind.
I chimed in 'cause 20yr ol' genetics interest me.
Been readin' you, 'bout dat.
Got a friend that claims 26 yr. old beans, and I believe him.
We have recently generated fresh seeds, but the ancient ones still had a great germ. rate.
Something to try since they have been on ice so long.
Try freezing some aerated water into big, cloudy, ice-cubes.
Plant a seed and stack a couple cubes on it.
Then let them melt naturally.
Worked on the GainesvilleGreen seeds.:thumbsup:
Prolly should have posted this in your thread, but, I was in the neighborhood and it was on my way.;)
If you stumble across it at this late date.
Obligatory apologies fo' da piracy, O.P.:D
Aloha Y'all
Weezard