Question about this pills

I 'll be going to UA in 4 days, and I am not smoking for 48 hours.
I am not a heavy user, only 3-4 very small cigars daily.

Your oppinion is needed on what I'm planning to do.
I have this diuretic pills that forces me to pee almost every 20 mins for 3-4 hours. I was reading the dillution method by N2, and I though I can mix plenty of water, asprin b12 and this pills.

Do You think it'd be a good thing to use those pills ? If yes , how many hours before the test could give the best result ?

Thanks in advance :)

what's the diuretic called?
...the reason i ask is because some prescription diuretics, such as lasix (furosemide) interact w/ aspirin and other NSAIDS such as ibuprofen and naproxen sodium. be very careful; combining these may lead to kidney failure!

also, aspirin won't do shit for you in terms of help you pass the drug test. taking massive amounts of aspirin (as suggested in some places in the forum) is just straight up bad for your body.

since you smoke daily i would say your best bet is to substitute your shit by getting clean pee from someone you know. do this by taping a hand/foot-warmer to a small 2 oz. bottle filled w/ the pee. strap the warmer/bottle complex to your balls or cheek it.

if you can't substitute then i would resort to dilution by loading up on creatine 2-3 days before test (15-20grams/day) and take massive amounts of b complex vitamins.

also...do you know what company your drug test will be with (i.e. labcorp)?
if it's w/ labcorp substitute. if it's w/ any other company then idk if subbing is a good idea unless you can talk to someone who has taken the test for the same job in the past.

Thank You for Your reply strawberrycoff

The problem is, that I am 3 hours away from the lab. And it's at least 40 degrees (in celcius) here. I 'm just scared that the substitute will break down faster than 8 hours.

The diuretic pill's label is DESAL, and it contains FUROSEMIDE.
I am not %100 sure but maybe it would help me to give a clean pee w/o any THC-COOH in it. Do You think I have no chance with this pills ?

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Originally Posted by efesextra

I am not a heavy user, only 3-4 very small cigars daily.

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3-4 small cigars a day? You may be a heavy smoker. How manys grams a day and what quality?

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Originally Posted by strawberrycoff

what's the diuretic called?
...the reason i ask is because some prescription diuretics, such as lasix (furosemide) interact w/ aspirin and other NSAIDS such as ibuprofen and naproxen sodium. be very careful; combining these may lead to kidney failure!

also, aspirin won't do shit for you in terms of help you pass the drug test. taking massive amounts of aspirin (as suggested in some places in the forum) is just straight up bad for your body.

since you smoke daily i would say your best bet is to substitute your shit by getting clean pee from someone you know. do this by taping a hand/foot-warmer to a small 2 oz. bottle filled w/ the pee. strap the warmer/bottle complex to your balls or cheek it.

if you can't substitute then i would resort to dilution by loading up on creatine 2-3 days before test (15-20grams/day) and take massive amounts of b complex vitamins.

also...do you know what company your drug test will be with (i.e. labcorp)?
if it's w/ labcorp substitute. if it's w/ any other company then idk if subbing is a good idea unless you can talk to someone who has taken the test for the same job in the past.

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Strawberrycoff is off a little on a lot of his advice.

First of all, don't use diuretics. This has been asked before so a search would have shown you that diuretics are unpredictable, can lead to over dilution and failing validity testing and can be tested for. The goal isn't to pee pure water so just following the guidelines will result in enough dilution.

SC is really playing up the interaction between NSAIDS and loop diuretics. I'm not going to say ignore this possibility because I'm not your family doctor but this interaction is more rare than common. I've never heard of desal. Is that a prescription drug?

Aspirin is taken because it used to help interfer with EMIT immunoassay testing. I haven't ever seen that says they have redesigned the EMIT brand to eliminate this. It's 4 tablets and most healthy people can take 4 tablets in one day with no ill effects. Strawberry makes it sound like you are going to OD on aspirin if you listen to us.

B complex isn't going to help you pass, only make your urine neon yellow. Taking 15-20 grams of creatine would give most people diarrhea. 5-10 grams is mre like it.

The rules on observing an individual aren't determined by the collection site, they all have to follow the same established rules.

A sample will begin to break down after about 8 hours but it isn't worthless at the 8 hour mark. You can work around this.

I agree w/ fakeboobs that you shouldn't take the diuretics. there's a reason you need a prescription for those types of drugs, as it may be dangerous to certain susceptible individuals. however i'm not "playing up" anything in regards to the interaction between NSAIDS and loop diuretics, just trying to save you a trip to the hospital. my experience as a nationally certified pharmacy technician and a 5th year pharmacy student tells me the interactions between loop diuretics (such as furosemide) and NSAIDS have well be established and can be fatal when taken in combination. use your judgment!

diuretics may very well dilute your urine to the point of it being mostly water. however, this may be necessary to lower your urine THC metabolite concentration below the 50ng cutoff if you've been smoking daily for a while (several months). i would suggest taking several at-home drug tests to see where you're at in terms of how much THC is built up in your system. find out what the least amount of water you can drink is w/ passing.

the reason i suggested taking 15-20 grams of creatine is because of the nature of the uptake of creatine in the human body. creatine is taken into the muscle from the bloodstream until a certain maximal concentration is built up (in the muscle tissue). ONLY THEN excess creatine will be expelled into your urine via the kidneys (which is what your want). if you are lean and muscular, you may have to take as much as 15-20g for this to happen. however, if you're lanky and have little muscle than 5-10g (as fake boobs suggested) may be enough to saturate your muscle tissue.

in terms of aspirin, i'm not sure if it interferes w/ EMIT (perhaps it does) to be honest. you won't OD if you take four, but it is definitely not easy on your liver and stomach....that i AM sure of. again--use your judgment!

TY FakeBoobsRule. Your reply is much appreciated.
I'm in Turkiye, and the stuff We have here is not as strong as one an find in US. And my small cigars mean someting like a half gram of weed/daily all together. My firends always lough at my doses.But I still can't count on that.

And yes, I did not make a proper search on diuretics so far. The pills I have needs no prescription. But they can make me pee like crazy ( I believe it's almost pure water) . My main problem is, that I'm not able to buy someting like quick fix, and all the people around me is even dirtier than I am.

I think I have to follow the advices on dillution and hope for the best.
But I still think somehow the pills would help. Because the validity of the sample is made by checking the creatine levels, temperature and color.
Am I correct on this ?

DiureticPills+(B12-B2)+(CreatineMonohydrate)+(Water)+(Powerade)
Do I have a chance like this ?

Thank You

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Originally Posted by strawberrycoff

as a nationally certified pharmacy technician and a 5th year pharmacy student tells me the interactions between loop diuretics (such as furosemide) and NSAIDS have well be established and can be fatal when taken in combination. use your judgment!

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I think you are mistaken and thinking of ACE inhibitors, loop diuretics, and NSAIDS all 3 together.

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Originally Posted by efesextra

But I still think somehow the pills would help. Because the validity of the sample is made by checking the creatine levels, temperature and color.
Am I correct on this ?

DiureticPills+(B12-B2)+(CreatineMonohydrate)+(Water)+(Powerade)
Do I have a chance like this ?

Thank You

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First of all, color is only a validity test if it is something like black or green, not how yellow something is. Temperature is used to check for substitution. Specific gravity and creatinine clearance are used to check for dilution.

Next, the only thing this class of diuretic does is pull potassium and water from your body. Just because you are peeing more doesn't mean you are clearing more THC metabolites. Like you said, it is almost like peeing water and that is not the goal of dilution, you don't want to pee water.

The use of loop diuretics which are among the most powerful diuretics seriously affects those 2 validity tests to below the accepted range.

By monitoring your fluid intake and knowing how much you consume, you can better judge what you eliminate. You don't need both, increased fluid intake and diuretics. Follow the dilution sticky and its volume recommendations and stay on track.

Thanks to both of posters trying to help me out.
I'll try my best for the test and update this topic soon :)

any info???

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Originally Posted by FakeBoobsRule

as a nationally certified pharmacy technician and a 5th year pharmacy student tells me the interactions between loop diuretics (such as furosemide) and NSAIDS have well be established and can be fatal when taken in combination. use your judgment!

I think you are mistaken and thinking of ACE inhibitors, loop diuretics, and NSAIDS all 3 together.

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by this i didn't mean to come off as cocky or anything...i just meant that as a employee in the pharmacy i have access to a micromedex (a research-based database of info. about all FDA approved drugs & their interactions). i've looked it up and asked my parents (who are both MD's) to double check and verified that this is a fact.

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Originally Posted by FakeBoobsRule

Next, the only thing this class of diuretic does is pull potassium and water from your body.

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correct..along with sodium and chloride, which both increase specific gravity. if he does this along with load up on creatine it will work!

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Originally Posted by strawberrycoff

by this i didn't mean to come off as cocky or anything...i just meant that as a employee in the pharmacy i have access to a micromedex (a research-based database of info. about all FDA approved drugs & their interactions). i've looked it up and asked my parents (who are both MD's) to double check and verified that this is a fact.

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You don't come off as cocky just oblivious to the fact that you aren't the only one with experience in a healthcare field or a degree in a healthcare field. We have several doctors on here as well so what you want a cookie because your parents are? Let me catch my breath.

What's annoying is that you make the interaction between loop diuretics and NSAIDS sound very common and very deadly. It isn't that common and if you don't think that doctors don't prescribe both classe of drugs concomitantly for patients then you might want to study harder.

Then you give advice that taking the diuretic will help. It's too much to take a diuretic and increase fluid intake and if the employer is willing to pay for it, they can check for diuretics. The labs aren't stupid. If you don't believe me google Kevin and Pat Williams and Starcaps.

But I was only looking for some help.
I did not intended to start a war between people.

BTW, I gave the sample they want from me. Waiting for the results now.
I'll keep You posted.

Thanks :)

good luck bro!
to SC...you don't seem to know what you're talking about. i also have access to a mmedex (by thomsonhc.com) and am a pharmacy student as well. though NSAIDS and furosemide taken concurrently do interact, it's not a severe interaction by any means. NSAIDS simply reduce the efficacy of loop diuretics by inhibition of proximal tubular secretion in the kidney; you may want to double-check your sources!

I bought 2 of this test kits called QuickScreen5. Needed to see whats my current situation and check to see if my plan will work. Both tests failed.
I was not clean at all. The first kit has showing me that 4 days was not enaugh to be clean. And the second kit told me to try again, as it says the sample was not qualified to see whats in it. I can call this over-dilluted with my poor english.
So I'm sure that my method of using diuretics can result of a failure.

This was a bad time for me, as I needed to make a call on what I'll do next.

The only good move was to act as been told here. I followed every single bit of what N2 says, and stayed in-line. The only missing part was the asprin and my addition was using 4 spoons of coffee as the forcing agent.Asprin always seemed odd to me, because I was not trying to dillute my blood. I was trying to dillute my urine.

I'm not sure what criteria has been applied to my results but it was NEGATIVE and I have PASSED the damn thing.

However, since I'll be doing this randomly in the next 9 months to get rid of it, I'm not certain but happy.
All I can say is, dillution works for a reason, and I thank to all of You for the help :)

Peace

List of crap used in this thing ;
Vitamin-B,Powerade,Caffein,CreatinMonohydrate,Water(exactl y as preffered) + Some hopeless faith :)