Assassin's grow progress data here:

Finally decided to do something with my pics i had laying around from the past couple months.. As of now, my babies are 2 wks in flowering, but im going to post the log from the entire project.. :rastasmoke:

I built myself a 3' x 7' x 5' grow closet out of 3/4 plywood, and 2x4s, with a 4' vortex outtake fan, and passive intake. Took about a week to build, seal, paint, and install fans, vents, and one 1000w HPS.

I decided to use a bed for my grow, instead of pots, and i also attached steel casters to the bottom to make it mobile. Several 1/4 holes drilled in the bottom to allow drainage into a drip pan placed underneath.

For this project, i used CocoBlend soil, and im fertilizing with EarthJuice the whole way through, starting with Grow and MicroBlast, ending with Catalyst, Flower, and Meta-K..

Hope you guys enjoy, and feel free to criticize, ask Qs, ect..:D

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Day One, got some random clones given to me, was told its "Purple Urkel" but i've always got my doubts with clones...

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Few days in the dirt, looking a little yellow...

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10 days in (as you can see) First signs of real growth, although they still look N deficient.

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The Earth Juice Grow finally kicked in, lots of explosive growth at Day 12

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Began doses of Neem Oil solution during the dark cycle, just to be sure theres no pests hiding from me..


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Shot of the 'script for legal purposes :thumbsup:

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This stage was several days after FIMing, and shows the multiple top shoots beginning.

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The top right plant in this shot is the only one showing any purple traits so far. The fan leaf color is really cool, but the node structure is strange. The other plants look very different, but the nodes are stacking nicely.

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My method of scrogging, using a common window screen. I left it resting over the top of the canopy during the 6hr dark cycle, and then about half of the light cycle. I found that it worked really well.


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Heres a shot of the fans/light setup. I have added another oscillating 12' fan since this pic was taken.


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This was taken right before cutting clones, so they look really tall.:stoned:

More pics coming soon!!

Looking beautiful, although Im not a professional but as far as I know your not supposed to have plants in the same pot?

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Originally Posted by c0mrade

Looking beautiful, although Im not a professional but as far as I know your not supposed to have plants in the same pot?

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I'm pretty sure that having plants in the same pot is not a negative. I personally have not had a soil based grow yet (just started some mothers in soil), most of what I've learned is hydro.

To sum it all up nice looking ladies bro, hope to see some awesome more pics soon :rasta:

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Looking beautiful, although Im not a professional but as far as I know your not supposed to have plants in the same pot?

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Yes, that would apply to pots, mostly because theres not enough room for the roots to thrive..

Here, I am growing in a bed, and i have my plants spaced well enough so thats not really a problem, although the entire bottom is nearly a solid mass of roots :D

Basically, i'm giving them the most root space possible in the confines of a closet operation.

As promised, heres more pics..:jointsmile:


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Batch of clones i cut off these babies right before flowering time...

Used Grodan rockwool cubes, sterilized razor, K-L-N cloning solution, and then B1 solution for watering... I got clusters of white hairy roots everywhere at 14 days.. This is my tried-and-true method..

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This is around 4 days into flowering, just starting to push hairs out..

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Close shot...

nice

ive been thinking of switching to beds from pots also

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nice

ive been thinking of switching to beds from pots also

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Yeah, its easier to water and control nutes for me.. plus no drips on the floor in between pots when you water.. Usually beds are not mobile enough. I've got my entire bed on casters tho, so i can wheel it out from under the light and work on my plants from any angle, sort of the best of both worlds..

Anyhow, heres pics during dark time..

this set of pics was taken around 15 days in flowering...

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This one is the more indica dominant plant it seems... much stockier and "fatter" everwhere..


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They are coming along beautifully, but i still need help identifying the strain(s) present here.. Obviously it appears im working with 5 sativa dominant, and one indica-leaning plant, but i'm mystefied by the strains here the more and more they develop..

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The corner plant is my baby, the colors are just insane...

wow this is amazing. nice fim'ing

the medium you are using is it just a blend of coco/soil? Can you explain how you use the nutes and do you water till runoff? ph?

looks great can't wait to see more buds :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by greenatik

wow this is amazing. nice fim'ing

the medium you are using is it just a blend of coco/soil? Can you explain how you use the nutes and do you water till runoff? ph?

looks great can't wait to see more buds :thumbsup:

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The growing medium is Black Gold CocoBlend, its my first time using it, but i was told good things about it from reliable sources.. So far, i really like it. It is basically 60% coco coir and the rest black gold soil. It doesnt drain extremely fast, seems to sort of "sponge up" the water, and then once the roots have absorbed most of it, it dries out rather quickly. Only downside is that i have to really stay on top of my watering schedule... My only other comments on the CocoBlend is that it blows away rather easily when it dries out and your fans are going too strong..

As far as nutes, i began with just EarthJuice Grow, to boost the N, and then i began foliar feeding with EJ Microblast around 3 weeks in to keep micro nutes stable. Also dosed them with EJ Catalyst around that time. I used B1 start solution with chelated iron to fix my iron def. at 5 weeks, and keep the roots healthy. About a week before i changed my lights to 12/12, i began feeding in some EJ Bloom, more Catalyst, and just a little Grow. Now that i am in full flowering, im using mostly Bloom, some Catalyst, Meta-K to keep up the potassium, and i'm also adding Grow every 3rd watering.. I'm following the direction on the bottles, and using medium strength applications on all nutes.

My watering schedule is pretty steadily once every other day. I mix up 5 gallons of water about a day and a half ahead of time, and mix in the nutes, stir it up, and let it sit and stabilize. I've been flushing with plain water every time i add a new nute into the mix, and right after my heavy feedings, just because im paranoid about overdoing it.. :stoned: haha

With a 5 gallon typical watering, i normally have less than one cup of runoff from the drain holes on my bed, and i've got a very cheap PH meter, so i dont really trust it, although it tells my my soil/runoff is around 6.8?

They are around 20 days in flower right now, and looking good! I should have more pics up in a couple days, showing their current state. I do have one concern right now: mold.

I spotted some hairs on the buds that have a tiny brownish tinge on the ends. I will post pics later on, they are sleeping right now, but has anyone seen this before? some buds dont have it, but the ones that do, look as if they'd been singed with a flame.. I just put a digi temp/humidity readout in the closet, so im hoping maybe i just need to raise the light or something.

so YOU mix the coco and soil together.? iv been thinking of runnin #4 peat in the bed and top it with ocean forst.


week 4 i usually start to see some tinge but when i harvested the other day a couple of nugs here and ther had some burn and were kinda crunchy

make sure its not a light leak or other stressor, cause hermies

the brown hairs can be an indicator of multiple things. heat stress, hermie (light leaks), but IME, touching and squeezing the buds!

thanks for the info. do you keep a steady PH? if i mix my nutes up ahead of time my ph fluctuates like crazy. do you bubble the mix?

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Originally Posted by phatsesh101

so YOU mix the coco and soil together.? iv been thinking of runnin #4 peat in the bed and top it with ocean forst.


week 4 i usually start to see some tinge but when i harvested the other day a couple of nugs here and ther had some burn and were kinda crunchy

make sure its not a light leak or other stressor, cause hermies

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No, sorry i wasnt clearer, i'm buying Black Gold brand soil, but its a new type called CocoBlend, it comes pre-mixed.. But the peat thing sounds interesting too!

Snap, now im worred about light leaks in my little closet.. :( gonna go lightproof more when they wake up now..

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the brown hairs can be an indicator of multiple things. heat stress, hermie (light leaks), but IME, touching and squeezing the buds!

thanks for the info. do you keep a steady PH? if i mix my nutes up ahead of time my ph fluctuates like crazy. do you bubble the mix?

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Thanks, both of you guys for the info on the brown tinge, i'd never heard this before... :thumbsup: Right now im hoping its heat stress, and i'm about to purchase a blower for my intake to try and get temps down... If its light leaks, im going to find out tonight and fix that too..

As far as the PH, i really only have a crappy wand-type meter, and i measure with some "mud" from my water solutuion, and soil, and it seems to always read between 6.5 and 7.0 but i really dont trust the meter at all... Its one of those deals that allegedly tells you: Light Strength, Soil Fertility, PH, Soil Moisture, and with only three metal probes, and no battery..

I dont bubble the water, i just fill a barrel and then measure out the nutes, add them in, stir up real good, let sit overnight, stir again, and commence feeding.

I used lemon juice from fresh lemons to get the PH down a little in the soil when i first started because it was reading above 7.0 on my meter, and i was afraid it was too high.. I'm not very experienced with PH control, but it seems im doing ok so far?

i just saw the black gold stuff today but i just went with #4 cause im behind schedule and i get a bail for 30$ about 7 cft. anything else would cost me double.

i did pretty much the same nute prep as you, then i bought a meter and now i have ph prob :D

got my stuff and now am gonna build my bed. i think im gonna go 2'x 2'1/2 x 10'' and make two, or do you think just a single 4x4. with two i can alternate harvests. have you had any probs with root space

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i just saw the black gold stuff today but i just went with #4 cause im behind schedule and i get a bail for 30$ about 7 cft. anything else would cost me double.

i did pretty much the same nute prep as you, then i bought a meter and now i have ph prob :D

got my stuff and now am gonna build my bed. i think im gonna go 2'x 2'1/2 x 10'' and make two, or do you think just a single 4x4. with two i can alternate harvests. have you had any probs with root space

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My bed is 4.5ft x 2.5ft and i squeezed 6 in there... The roots are a nice solid mass at the bottom of the bed, but i dont notice any problems from rootlock.

FME, the more space for your roots, the bigger your plant will grow, the less rootspace, the smaller plant you have.. For my space, i have the right amount of roots... for a bigger space, i would want bigger beds/pots tho.

how long do you veg? how deep are your beds?

i meant 2 4x2.5.

i think i can i double my finish weight in a bed

Ok now we are finally caught up to date on this grow log. These pics were taken earlier today, at around day 22 of flowering... Most of them show small examples of the brown tinges on the hairs i mentioned before. I'm pretty sure its heat stress now, my temps when i got home today were in the low 90s :mad: I hope i can install a blower on the intake, and push the temps down to low 80s at least....

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phatsesh101

how long do you veg? how deep are your beds?

i meant 2 4x2.5.

i think i can i double my finish weight in a bed

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I vegged this time for basically 3 months, partly because i was experimenting with scrogging methods, and also in order to cut a nice batch of clones...

The bed i'm using is 12 inches deep, but im only using around 7-8 inches of soil... Next time i'm going to fill the bed right up to the top, and try to go even BIGGER :D

Yesterday i put a climate display in to help me troubleshoot the heat problem, and now i'm just paranoid about my high humidity levels :( Mold is my arch enemy, and im going to be a sad panda if i have to burn this crop in the backyard :wtf:

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I'm also experimenting with bud fimming, something i have been studying as of lately, and since i have abundant top colas, why not mangle a few in the name of science :stoned:

Been a few days, thought i'd post an update...

they are only 4 weeks into flowering, and i am already getting VERY impatient...

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As you can see, Trichs EVERYWHERE!! :rastasmoke:

Cant get enough magnification with my cam to see milkiness or not tho..

My other main issue right now, is my girl's longhair cat who lives in the same space as my closet project.... Hasn't been an issue until those flowers started getting sticky.. and the warmer weather made her start shedding..... as you can see, theres literally hundreds of little hairs plastering onto the buds....

I've been picking them off with tweezers, and keeping my fans turned up seems to help a little.. Also, since im only growing for personal use.. (heavy personal use) so i guess i dont mind smoking a little kitty fur.. its just annoying to see happening :(

something easy you could do is just cut a bit of foam to fit over your intake and that should keep the cat hair on the outside, but you'll have to make sure you clean it to keep the flow.

you definitely don't want to be smoking kitty fur. although i'm sure we all have. but since we are growin our own it should be as clean as possible :thumbsup: definitely need to put a filter on the intake. cut down on dust, pests, hair ;)

what size intake and out take are you using in this grow in about a month i am going to start a 1000w 6 plant grow and ill be sure to log it

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what size intake and out take are you using in this grow in about a month i am going to start a 1000w 6 plant grow and ill be sure to log it

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I have a passive intake, basically just a 10" square of 3/4" holes drilled in the wall of my closet about 3" from the floor, with a heating vent grille on the outside, and a hepa filter on the inside... Filter is to try and control the cat hair and dust getting inside, and it works for the INTAKE.

BUT every time i open the door, the negative pressure inside sucks in cat hair thats floating around in the room.. nothing i can do about that really :( other than stay out of my closet as much as possible and keep it closed.

As soon as this round is over, i am going to add an intake fan to increase my airflow.. i had some heat issues on this first round.. I will update with pics and details on the construction when the time comes..

My outtake is a 6" Vortex fan, pushing about 450 cfm, (Probably a lot less CFMs in actuality because my intake issues) I am stuck with the 6" ducting size because im splitting it into my dryer vent at the wall, but its worked like a charm so far.. :stoned:

Have you tried opening the door at the top to equalize the pressure of the room first before pulling the door all the way open. Or turn the exhaust fan off from the outside b4 going in there.

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Have you tried opening the door at the top to equalize the pressure of the room first before pulling the door all the way open. Or turn the exhaust fan off from the outside b4 going in there.

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Yeah, im trying different things to keep it under control.. I'm turning off the circ fans when im working in there with the door off, and ive been sweeping and wiping down the surrounding area as much as possible too..

I went to the local hydro shop for an intake fan, and was told that the squirrel cage style fans were "outdated" and they no longer carry that type :( I need something to mount to a flat wall easily.. time to scour CraigsList..

My colas look beautiful, I will try to post new pics here soon. Most of my leaves are a bright yellow on the tips and are really N deficient but i'm 6 weeks into flowering, so its nothing but water and molasses from here on in.. I'm so tempted to cut early its almost unbearable :D

wont let me edit, so bump :stoned:

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greenfire in sac has those fans you want

Cheers, i'm a little far from Sac tho, probably just use an oversized comp case fan..

Anyhow, Based on my last pic posted, (This is around 6 wks into flowering) Should i be getting ready to harvest?

I was expecting/hoping to go a full 8 wks or more in flowering, but the N is sucking out of all my leaves and the buds are looking nice... cant get enough magnification to see trich color tho..

I'm thinking time to cut soon- i must have a quick-flowering strain.. This is supposedly Urkel, and i have no experience with this strain, so its a bit of guesswork on this first round..

i use inline booster fans $30 frome home depot

cant tell from the pic, but i wouldnt worry about the leaves you dont do much with those in the end anyhow, and they usually look really ugly mine any way. its like fall time remeber what happens to trees

haha yeah my whole canopy looks like fall right now.. I'm thinking it may be partially from a slight overdose of molasses with the past 3 feedings, so now they are getting straight water until the end... planning on chopping the first test nuggets at 7 weeks.

Took some new close-up pics tonight... Heres the best one.. Really shows how far along the yellowing/discoloration has become.

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They look close to ready IMO...

shes lookin real good

lookin back they look like my erkle, leaf shape any how. fast onset of pistols and insane trichs early in flower

im thinking maybe 10-14 days if that was a top cola

lookin good

hey assasin. i think you dropped the feed too soon. coco only really needs 2 weeks max of a flush IME. or the fans will yellow and die too soon. but they look great nonetheless. id say about 2 weeks as well :thumbsup:

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hey assasin. i think you dropped the feed too soon. coco only really needs 2 weeks max of a flush IME. or the fans will yellow and die too soon. but they look great nonetheless. id say about 2 weeks as well :thumbsup:

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Yeah, my first time indoor in coco, so its all a learning experience... Anyhow, i just finished cutting and wet-trimming everything. I cut at 52 days of flowering.

During the retrofitting of my closet, i found some electrical problems: a splitter for my fans overheated and melted a little bit, so i had to re-wire the fans to a different outlet.. bit worrisome, but glad i found the issue early.

Got everything replaced and tested the loads on my breakers last night, and started round number 2 :thumbsup: Got some interesting new clones the other day too.. My selection this time around consists of (2) of the indica dominant purple from my last round, (2) alleged bubblegum kush, and (2) random purple crosses.. should make for a colorful little closet of joy.

Anyhow, not sure of the protocol on making new grow logs, but i'll keep this log going if its not too confusing for people... Heres a pic of Day One, Round Two

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pink is bubblegum kush, blue is Confirmed indica dom purple (lavender) and the dark green ones are purple strains yet to be determined..

Nice to see round 2 right away! Are you gonna put up some pics of some harvested nugs? They looked awesome before, I can only imagine now:) How much do you figure you will yeild? Anyways man nice job, inspires me to build a cab and use a bed for simplicity. I am for sure gonna be watching the next batch!

Been hanging just about a week now, still a little bendy, but im starting with the dry trimming and jar packing because i've got a LOT to get done.

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No clue how much weight ive got.. will weigh after its cured a few weeks in the jars.. its all really really dense tho, so hopefully the oz's will stack up..

sorry the pics are a little washed, my camera isnt the best.. :(

Yeah, i painted, changed the soil, and did a few small repairs in under 2 hours, once the paint dried, my new plants were ready to wheel under the light.. one day turnaround to the next batch :D

I will be applying a lot of lessons i learned the past round this time... im hoping to get a better yeild- keep the nutes a bit longer, prune more, fim early, lots more bud fimming, going to LST the hell out of them early, and then SCROG later on... :stoned: Thanks everyone who's following and offering advice/suggestions! I'll do my best to get into your respective threads and leave comment. :rastasmoke:

That, my man, is some of the most frosty dank I've seen. Well done, and I can't imagine what your next batch is going to be like with all of the improvements!

Again, great work and i wish I could hit you up!

SMG

looks nice my erk is frosty as hell also, it makes me sad i didnt take a cut

Alright, its been a week or so, All my plants are done drying, and just beginning the curing process.. All in all, i got about 10 grams over a single LB, makes me more than happy :rastasmoke: Thinking about getting a vaporizor soon.. :stoned:

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The new babies are growing like mad, especially the Bubblegum Kush, it just gets bigger every day.. Theres one runt plant, but its right under the middle of the light, so i'm not worried. I put up tie down string last time i watered to help control the Kush.. Looking good so far this round, been giving strictly Earth Juice Grow every other watering, with a tiny splash of molasses for the micro life. Also gave some B1 and Microblast maybe once a week..


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At 10 days


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The Kush had to be LST'd, which in turn is making it into a shrub..


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Close up of the results after FIM'ng


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Getting bushy

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FIM'd and 3 days later mad shoots everywhere..

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Added tie-down string this time around to keep my branches aligned.. :thumbsup:

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The Kush is wild! Branches everywhere, going to start tying it everywhere..

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The other Kush plant in the other corner..