Possibility I got Shitty Salvia? From A&M Wellness.

Well, first off this week was spring break. It was going to be the best yet, but turned out to be the worst. The acid that I was promised didn't come through. and many other things didn't work out.

But, we had our salvia 20x extract that was coming to fall back on. Well, it was shipped on monday, and we paid A&M Wellness 5 extra dollars to send it priority, which they said they would. Well priority should be 2-3 days, right, well it didn't come until today, 4 days later. You know why? Because it wasn't fucking shipped priority.

Then, we go and test out our newely acquired goodies, and find out it doesn't do much more than a body high and maybe one or two CEV's or visual distortions.

The fucking 10x launched us into oblivion, and its hard to believe 20x isn't as powerful. Obviously, the rat finks at the place didn't give us the right thing. I can't see what else it could be.

We smoked it from a pipe, a gravity bong, a water bong, usiing a torch lighter, a normal lighter, did it right evertyime.

Oh yeah and also the last time we got salvia, (10x), it was finely ground up, while this stuff was a little bit more chunky. Not as much as the leaves, but still.

I've smoked salvia probably 40 times previously.

So overall, A&M Wellness seems like a bunch of rat bastards.

They are having a close out deal, apparently, so we got 2 grams of 20x for like 42 dollars, as opposed to the 30 or whatever per gram from other sites.

Atleast I know its worth it to shell out the extra cash, so we can atleast get a reliable deal.

Sigh.

The site is www.amwellness.com if you wanted to examine it.

That's the same site I heard about that was giving away free samples at one time, and no one was getting fucked up off of their salvia. Leave that place alone!

Definatly will in the future. It sucks I waited until the end of spring break to get shitty stuff. Sigh, lesson learned. :mad:

I give all my business on salvia to bouncingbearbotanicals (to computer stupid to post a link!) I don't really know how prices compare with other sites, but salvia is cheap, and I've never got a bad product from them. Thanks for the warning!

Hey Brokedown, we don't sell salvia to you can go "get high" on spring break. We sell it in the true spirit of the ancient Shaman...as incense for healing and divination. That is the main reason we are getting out of the salvia business. Too many amatures, disrespecting salvia and using as an alternative way to get high. Let me tell you something that is a fact and this goes for the rest of you on this board. We have been watching the laws regarding salvia for a long time and if you continue to talk about it this way, disrespect it like you have been and use it improperly, it will be made illegal and you will have succeeded in screwing up a good thing for everyone. If politicians read and believed what they read on these message boards, it probably already would be illegal. Our quality is excellent for those who know what they are doing. We have a long list of private clients we sell to regularly because they have proven to us that they respect salvia. When you decide that you seek the wisdom and can prove that you do, perhaps we will let you be one of them. Peace to you and yours...A & M Wellness

That was a nice speech and all...
But it doesn't change that your salvia extract appearantly sucks.
Whether for spiritual purpouses or to 'get fucked up', word is it sucks.
End of argument.

Search under our member name iamignant for our post back when we were offering free samples. Read the thread and check out how many of the members here thought the quality was awesome. We gave our hundreds if free samples. Do you really thing we would have done that if we weren't confident of our quality. There is always going to be a couple people who don't like something but you might want to do your own research before you go following their word. That is how Saddam got in power in the first place. Blind faith.

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Originally Posted by iamignant

Hey Brokedown, we don't sell salvia to you can go "get high" on spring break. We sell it in the true spirit of the ancient Shaman...as incense for healing and divination. That is the main reason we are getting out of the salvia business. Too many amatures, disrespecting salvia and using as an alternative way to get high. Let me tell you something that is a fact and this goes for the rest of you on this board. We have been watching the laws regarding salvia for a long time and if you continue to talk about it this way, disrespect it like you have been and use it improperly, it will be made illegal and you will have succeeded in screwing up a good thing for everyone. If politicians read and believed what they read on these message boards, it probably already would be illegal. Our quality is excellent for those who know what they are doing. We have a long list of private clients we sell to regularly because they have proven to us that they respect salvia. When you decide that you seek the wisdom and can prove that you do, perhaps we will let you be one of them. Peace to you and yours...A & M Wellness

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Why would he want to be one of your private clients so he has full access to your decidedly shitty salvia?

look, if 10x works for him, 20x should work too. That is unless it sucks, which apparently it does. Go peddle your lackluster goods elsewhere.

Thank you Edgar, that is exactly the point. How is it possible that our 10X is great for him but the 20X sucks. He even admits to reordering. Even in the crudest means of producing extract, it's really not possible. But not to worry. We aren't selling anything to anyone here. We are only defending our good name. In fact, we aren't even going to sell salvia anymore thanks to all the amatures. But when someone attacks us because they have a personal vendetta for some unknown reason, then we must respond. Everyone thinks these message boards are for consumer advocates to make attacks against companies. The problem is, no one does their own research, they just believe what people type. And anyone can type anything they want, true or not. So go peddle your lies elsewhere.

He didn't actually say he ordered your 10x (though he may have), he said he ordered your 20x. If your not selling salvia anymore it has nothing to do with the amatures im sure... You can bs all you like, but if you were making money off the salvia, your not gonna quit selling just because some amatures are using it to 'get high'.... I dont know what your real reasons are, mabey you have a new supplier thats selling you shitty product, and you can't even make it worth a damn by concentrating it to 20x, but thats just a guess. Anyway, i dont see why anyone should trust you over Brokedown, he's been here longer, and he seems like a nicer guy... Your right people do use these message boards as a sort of consumer report, and the report doesn't look good 4u. Btw, if you didn't want people to use it to get high, why did you hand out free samples to a bunch of people on a stoner forum? well? huh?

I want to hear from more people who have actually bought the extract from this guy, the sample could just be the hook to get rubes to purchase from his site, then he could sell you whatever brokedown got.

"There is always going to be a couple people who don't like something but you might want to do your own research before you go following their word. That is how Saddam got in power in the first place. Blind faith."
LOL, what a generic criticism... Yeah you really sound sincere...

my bad, brokedown hasn't been here longer, but he's made alot more posts, and he isn't selling nething.

Nice speach too there Edgar. Seems a little paranoid to me though. Probably from crushing up to many sucrets or slamming to much robitusin. The real reason we aren't going to sell salvia anymore is because we are afraid of out company getting raided by the feds because we sold to some dumb ass who used it incorrectly and did something stupid. Obviously you don't know much about business but that's fine. The objective of a business is to make money but also to stay alive. So even if your making money, the risks have to be evaluated and when the risks get to high, you have to move on to other things. I'm not attacking brokedown. Did I say anything negative and personal about him? No. I'm just defending our name. Plus it fun to get you paranoid stoners all fired up about stupid shit. So in that respect, I look forward to your next post, so I can have some more fun.

I can say the salvia i recieved (free sample) from AMwellness was very good, plus my sisters friend also ordered some for them to share and they loved it, he then proceeded to buy loads from amwellness.

I think the fact lots of people complained it didn;t work is more likely to be down to the fact their is a lot of technique needed with salvia and as has been said on this thread already - a lot of it would have been stupid kids getting the salvia because they wanted to get high, as a legal alternative.

Salvia didn't work for me first 1-2 times smoking it and then the third or 4th time from the same stuff i tripped my tits off on several occasions.

The AM stuff was fine, i know 6 people who got samples.

Jonny

Well i guess i got nothing to bitch about, as long as its workin for paying customers. I am paranoid by nature, but still its always best to be careful with the money you throw around.

I know enough about buissiness to know it goes where the money goes... Though i can understand not wanting to be busted by the feds.

Still, handing out free samples to a bunch of stoners... What did you expect?

First of all, I and my friends know all of the proper techniques for salvia. We aren't what you would call "amateurs" to salvia.

And the 10x was from another site. We are not buying more 20x from a better website, that actually is reliable and has great customer service.

And Iamignant, do you really think people would spend 30 dollars on 20x salvia to use it as an incense? You have some convuluted ideas towards the business world. Please get a clue.

Also iamignant, I read all of your posts, and all but a few are making stupid posts in regards to DXM. You have all the right to not like it, but last time I checked people who run a business shouldn't be jackoffs to other people on an internet message board.

Aww shit. My post two posts up should be We are now buying more 20x from a better website, that actually is reliable and has great customer service. I meant NOW instead of NOT.

Give them a break... they aren't going to carry it anymore.

...btw, anyone know about the salvia quality on ebay?

Hey brokedown, we run a health and wellness website so we don't want to see you fry your brain before you get out of high school. We love you man!!!!

Hey Bongmarley, the qualitly on Ebay is hit or miss. Ebay has some rediculous policies regarding selling salvia so you can buy some from someone there and then get the transaction cancelled by Ebay. We used to be the largest seller on ebay and got kicked off because they decided they didn't want to allow salvia even though it is legal. It was a joke.

that reminds me, for those reading this thread and still questioning what our quality was when we sold it, check our ebay feedback under amwellness. Over 800 feedbacks with over 99% positive.

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Originally Posted by iamignant

Hey brokedown, we run a health and wellness website so we don't want to see you fry your brain before you get out of high school. We love you man!!!!

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Last time I checked salvia doesn't fry your brain. Nor does DXM. But alas, its all good I guess.

Im not taking sides but if A&M wellness is not selling salvia anymore what does it matter if your salvia is good or shitty, its not like they are saying any of the other products you sell are bad.I think everyone here should just chill out, an opinion is an opinion and thats that!

Well, perhaps. But you send 40 some odd dollars to a company, only to have them send it late, and not get what you expected. Even if they are getting rid of their stuff, it still should be good quality.

And also it is the way he presents himself. Sigh. Whatever.

Sorry brokedown that came off the wrong way what i meant to say was if A&M wellness is not selling salvia anymore why do THEY care if they have shitty salvia.Its not like your saying their other products are bad. And even if they do get a bad rep. for salvia it wont matter because they are not selling it anymore.

And I completely agree with you brokedown, if you sent 40 bucks to them and they sent it late and it was bad thats quite a rip off.

Yeah, and anyway, iamignant, you seem pretty hostile for such a "spiritual, enlightened" individual. We all know that if some people fuck up with Salvia and word gets out to politicians, it will be scheduled and we'll all miss out. But you're clearly more worried about profits than supplying a good product, and to call us all "paranoid stoners" who you like to "get fired up about stupid shit" is not exactly good business around here.

By the way, it's spelled "amateur."

i did salvia after the trip from Vegas in the basement of my house with my parents upstairs. Needless to say, I had a bad trip for the first 5 minutes that was nearly unbearable.