ANARCHY! FREEDOM! PEACE! stop capitalism! stop facism, racism, peace and freedom to everyone!!!
VIVA LA REVOLUTIONE!!!!!
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ANARCHY! FREEDOM! PEACE! stop capitalism! stop facism, racism, peace and freedom to everyone!!!
VIVA LA REVOLUTIONE!!!!!
yes, people think there are free with "democratic" governement. bullshit. who can be elected? me? you? NO! only the one that will have the money( lemme say u need alot), and a good actor talent, because after all, we all know the candidates never respect their promises. and so the richs will always be the prefered class of the govenement, because money=power, what should not be. millions of people in america are pretty poor, forced to work 70 hours/weeks, and what does the governement do? yes,encourage privatisation, put TONS AND TONS AND TONS of money in army, legalize weapons. capitalism is good for those who got money, and they are low numbered, but they got the power. this is stupid.no we arent free. look how the humanity is goin. we will all die soon, 50 yeras max. yes, we will die by human stupidity, because we live in a fuckin capitalism consomation system, and your gratified if you buy, buy, consume, and you absolutly do not need all superficial shit we all have. we are killing our planet, because humans prefer money/power than the wellness of the community. money is far importantest than humans. millions of humans are exploited by rich americans, european, etc.... yes, the end of humanity is soon, we are all pupets, brainwashed by consomation system, corrupted governement. money corrupts, so power does. REVOLUTION, WAKE UP, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE FREE, ANARCHY= FREEDOM, PEACE.
Yep. You got the big picture alright. The only way to end war is for the soldiers not to fight it. Resist recruiters and shut down the recruiting stations. Gather round the military bases. Just make an appearance somewhere the media will most likely find amusing. No more wars. One sign.
It is the Elite who war. Not the people. They simply use us as fodder. WE have to stop this. The Elite won't.
Peace. Legalize, then Revolutionize!
lol anarchy is just as corrupt as capatalism but anarchy is eventually going to be the ruling sysytem only because money cant exist forever but i agree with cannabistoo just refuse to be aprat of it and take the jail sentence
I believe 'anarchy' or marxism could work. In a democratic state civil rights are taken away slowly so as not to stir public unrest. Perhaps rights can similarly be given back slowly so as not to cause chaos. First things first, do not increase the human population anymore.
Legalize drugs and watch the crime rates plunge.
Organized religions come and go every few thousand years or so, they are only part of the problem, get rid of them.
People should be able to live how they want, where they want so long as they pose no threat to others. Keep borders open.
I can tell you first hand that American public schools suck, especially when it comes to social sciences/history classes. For example last year I learned about WW1 and 2 in 'World History' and this year I learned about WW1 and 2 in 'US History' except that its the same thing, different book and we briefly covered how America was effected. After we're done with World War II we will discuss the United Nations, Geneva convention and the year will be over. Whats wrong with this? Oh well, its only that every year they leave out the most recent half century of whatever the hell went on in the world/United States and I would think this to be of greater importance and relevance to everybody. Maybe they want us to be ignorant.
Reform education.
Then maybe we can talk about slowly dissolving the government.
marxism? nah. communist=shit. your not free, communist isnt a pretty valuable system...
Communism does look good on paper though.
What sounds better than equality for all?
my biggest dream is to have a huge peice of land somewhere in some remote part of the ocean, where about 500 or so people can live, raise crops and livestock, grow bud, and live in peace from the rest of this fucked over world, just teach everyone proper values, and survival skills, none of this "porgressive" or "capitalistic" bullshit
It will never happen. I would absolutley love an anarchist society if it could work but it is flawed. It's too easy to exploit such a system and it will eventually turn into something like we have today.
To make an anarchist society work, we need 100% of the population in favour of it. We need millions of people who will not turn corrupt to take on the responsiblities of the government today. We need some kind of currency to make world trade efficient enough to work.
I'm going to finish this later. Goodnight.
Real communism was never fully implemented in any of the 'communist' nations, and of course there are flaws but over time things can be revised.Quote:
Communism does look good on paper though.
What sounds better than equality for all?
The way I see it the only ones that would turn corrupt are the rich and the religious, both for money.Quote:
To make an anarchist society work, we need 100% of the population in favour of it. We need millions of people who will not turn corrupt to take on the responsiblities of the government today. We need some kind of currency to make world trade efficient enough to work.
When people have no possessions, what is there to fight over?
exactly, your right. we should have started ages ago with such a system, it would work. we would be surviving. now, we arent even living, we are existing. people are bored. thats why they are so much suicides. yes, anarchy is imposible, but i prefer to live like if i was in it, with good values. and yes to live in a island with 500 persons, growin bud teachin kids good values that would be paradise.
Anarchy (Anarcho-Syndicalism) is a form of Communism.
You know what happens if the government falls and we go into a state with no rules. Absolute chaos. The armed citizens rule. Lets hope that never happens.
So long as any species doesn't live in solitude, there's going to be a pack mentality. it's how nature works, there's always going to be somebody who wants to establish dominance and leadership, hence the pattern begins again.
that and I don't know how people expect to survive in anarchy (unless I'm missing something). I mean the whole reason we have civilization is because of advances in technology for the purpose of ending suffering, saving lives, or making life easier.
all the anarchy people would be the first ones bumped off if it ever happened. :)
I am an Anarchist but do not believe in violence to get my point across, rather i chose love to help me stress my point. Many people think this is the land of the free when it is the exact opposite of what our founding fathers left england to escape. The day I can smoke a bong while walking to a friends house without worrying about "government" showing up and whooping my ass with a nightstick for being a more peacefull person(stoned)...i will be free. Anarchy is not chaos but the absence of government and chaos. When the world learns to love thy neighbor as thyself and share what you have Anarchy will rule. Long Live Peace and Love.
I kinda liked how some of the native americans ran things. Big discussion over campfires(for big decisions), and they came and went as they pleased. They also all chipped in for the good of the tribe, like a real community. That and they respected the land they used. Could do without the scalping tho =P
As long as there is a lower class, I am in it.
As long as there is a criminal element, Iâ??m of it.
As long as there is a soul in prison, I am not free.
Doesnâ??t anything socialistic make you want to throw up? Like great public schools or health insurance for all? Kurt Vonnegut
VIVE LA RĂ?VOLUTION!
I'm an anarcho-communist myself. People lived in anarchical communal lifestyles and got along just fine for millions of years. There's no reason it wouldn't work today. Down with the government, down with capitalism, down with organized religion, and down with all other hierarchical power institutions!
what are you 16?get real.
dreams make u live punk. maybe hes not 16, maybe hes just dreamin of a good world with freedom. maybe your are too old to be revolted and just too lazy to think. so wtf im with him it can work if we all want it to work. everything is possible.
VIVE LA RĂ?VOLUTION
p.s. good reading suggestion: ERRICO MALATESTA
sounds like real interesting reading material let me tell ya??you guys wouldnt last a second in anarchy.lol
Yeah no shit, I'd be knocking down punks with my AR-15 if anarchy ever happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
lol no system where a single persons in charge can work the only way communism would work would be for it to be a national vote and for a coucel instead of a leader to decide who gets what and for that group of leaders to change systematically unless voted back into office but see it is not the system that becomes corrupt but the people .And money isn't what corrupts, power is why do you think money is so desirable because with money comes power you know what i think we should do is somehow have a mass humacide[made up new word] where we kill off everyone who doesn't agree that everyone should live free and live justly if we do that then there should be no problems right ? or we could just kill every american who still thinks that he needs to own a gun to protect himself from the fuckin heebeegeebee's to high to hear anymore crap about corruption from a country run on it so fuck off lol
please dont be offended by this it is not directed at any one person lol
Keep in mind your ancestors were the Puritans, people so uptight THE BRITISH kicked them out. Ask yourself; how anal retentive you have to be for the British to tell you to get the fuck out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganjamon420
This is a joke, no offense was meant to either the British or Americans. Puritans can go fuck themselves, though.
:D :rolleyes:
It had to be said, don't apologize :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stedric
oh good for a sec i thought everyone was cussin me sorry for my earlier post i like most americans but some of them piss me off lol
That would be tough. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dazedandcontributing
cause it would never happen.my mother is 52 years old and carries a derringer 22 everywhere she goes.it's soooo funny.
well people must understand that anarchy is the extreme opposite of violence and chaos. thats what, years after years, that ppl started thinkin, because the society, in general, think we need a governement to live. so when u hear anarchy, u think no governement, and then comes chaos. BEEP!! thats the point of anarchy: living peacefully without any fuckin corrupted governement brainwahing everybody in sayin he protect us but we all know in fact hes corrupted, he cares about oil, and he really thinks makin semi-automatic guns available anywhere will protect people, or even being so stupid that he needs to have all his speechs wrote by some cocky deputies, and hes so rich he dont care about anybody cept himself and his butthead deputies fuckin cock sucker corrupted assholes. ok sorry for bad language. and no, i was talkin about everyone except bush :rolleyes:
is this smiley supposed to mean im sarcastic? :rolleyes: no seriously i wasnt, :rolleyes: i love bush! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
LOL
i really believe that if there was no government(corrupt or not)people would not be able to handle it and they would go into chaos.people can't even handle a court case without losing there heads.you make it sound good though mellow mood.
People seem to have the strange idea that there would be no way of punishing people for their actions under anarchy, as if everybody just freely murdered and stole from each other for the 99.9% of human history that occurred before governments were invented. Back then, such things were decided on a case-by-case basis. The tribe/clan/villagers would get together and work out a solution for each problem that affected the community. Of course this is impossible on such large scales as the modern nation-state where millions of people would render such a system impossible for obvious reasons, but society could be restructured so power is focused on the community instead where people's votes and individual opinions actually matter.
Anarchy can only be achieved if we can undo some of the huge problems that industrial capitalism has brought about so that a society not based on greed and exponential growth can be created. For example, capitalism with its focus on effeciency and producing more, more, more has produced a huge food supply, and anyone with a basic understanding of biology knows that if a species' food supply increases its population will too, so we find ourselves in the predicament of having way too many people. Capitalism tells us the solution is to produce more food to feed all those people, but clearly this is the wrong path since it will only make the problem worse and worse. But capitalism is the only system capable of controlling such huge populations and producing enough food to keep up with the booming population, so practically nobody wants to get rid of it since advocating starvation isn't a very popular stance.
There are three ways out of this mess, and we're going to take one of them whether we like it or not because the simple fact is that we can't support all these people that capitalism has brought about:
1) We can voluntarily lower our birthrate (yeah, right)
2) We can have a giant nuclear war or mass genocide that kills off billions of people (I used to think this was unlikely, but now Bush is in power)
3) We can wait until capitalism reaches the end of the line, that point where its dream of infinite and eternal growth is realized to be impossible, and it can no longer continue due to strains by the humongous population and the inability to extract and deliver resources efficiently enough to keep them alive and willing to work. Billions will die from starvation. This is inevitable if one of the other two doesn't happen, and if we are lucky the Oil Peak will be a catalyst in this destruction of capitalism sometime this century.
After that, then maybe we can establish anarchy. But just because it wouldn't work with today's twisted society doesn't mean I should support the very system that got us into this mess.
bush really has killed millions of people hasnt he.lol.those concentration camps are something else.lol
Well not yet, but once he starts World War III and you've got Chinese nukes landing in your backyard you'll see.
since china and the usa are allies i doubt that
i remember back in around 7th grade when everyone was an anarchist, and then they realize it was a dumb ass fucking idea
you know the united states judicial system goes on a case by case basis but theres so many cases they keep going...our government isnt bad...shit i wish there was anarchy for a day so you can come back to this republic we live in today and kiss bush's ass for being there
then we couldnt pay the 13 year old chinese girl (who works 12 hours a day to make barbie dolls for american girls) with only a bowl of rice and a dollar a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by ermitonto
eh u said it. and plz koshea u may not beleive in anarchy but that doesnt say its a shitty kid idea ok respect differents opinions :o