what to do with these stragglers

hey guys, this is my first real grow.

i got 50 clones from a buddy and i have them in 2 4x4 beds. 80% of the plants are big and healthy, however, the clones i got have powder mold issues...im dealing with that with serenade and its working awesome. anyway, so about 20 % of them are waay behind the others and i want to know what you guys think about what i plan to do with them.

i was thinking just pullin out the sickly ones and training the other plants to grow in their spot. the only problem i see with that though is ill have my light set not to burn the ones growing tall so the ones being trained to grow low wont receive as much light.

should i go ahead and let the stragglers grow an 8th? i dont want to pull em because they are making a great come back after the serenade treatments.

seems like all the sick ones got put into this tray cuz the other one only has a couple and are making better comback than this tray.

and since im sure someone is going to ask, i am using LED's and they are working awesome. extremely good internode spacing...all my skeptical buddys are now askin me where they can get em too. this will be my first time flowering with LED's though, but not exclusively. im putting 500 watts over 1 4x4 tray and a thouie right next to it...im not going to block the light because i want to see how the plants on the edge do with both hps and led. but for vegging it is no contest.

I think your biggest problem is going to be that you have them all in the same soil and not seperate containers... roots are going to get tangled, the plants will fight for nutrients, the losings ones will get root rot and be extremely stunted and possibly die...

Hmmm well it's the exact same set up as my "coach" who harvest nearly 2lbs a light...he just has a lot more beds and lights. He puts 30 in each bed and I only have 25....so I'm pretty sure that's not and won't be a problem.
He actually came over today and he said he's not suprised cuz some of the clones shoulda been in the ez longer. I can't complain cuz they were free.

syde00 is right, i recently had the same problem where i had 2 growing in the same very large pot. by the time of harvest one of them still looked like it was only 3 weeks into flower and yeld was non existant and the other plant looked as though it was only about 5 weeks into flower.
when they are all in the same pot you cant move them around or turn them to get more light as many people prefer to put the shorter plants in the middle to get more light. also if there is any problems with nutes or soil desease or bugs then all will probably suffer the same. i would never grow more than one in a single pot again its a lesson ive learnt the hard way.

there called beds...search it, you will find plenty of successful grows. Search a guy named tranoble...he did an amazing grow with beds. I live in a very pot friendly town and we talk. Beds are very popular.

it would depend on the area space being used and how many plants you have in there and how deep you have it i guess but i'd still say single pots are a better way as im sure many will agree but if it works for you then great stuff :)

so in a nutshell you guys pointed out something that is being done that you think they will have problems with and he didnt want to hear that, so much for trying to help huh?

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Originally Posted by tinytoon

so in a nutshell you guys pointed out something that is being done that you think they will have problems with and he didnt want to hear that, so much for trying to help huh?

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pretty much... but to each his own... its not going to upset me if problems arise :p

i;m sure it'll work if the plants are tossed instantly into 12/12... but if theres any veg period at all to let them grow a bit, i predict problems!

I have seen tranoble do great bed grows. I don't have the room for it and I go all hydro. It's all about tuning in your room.

As for runts, your master coach is right needed more time in EZ. But hey no worries. I let them grow just to compare un less you have something bigger to replace them with.

Follow your coach he is your master now. I wish we all had some one who cares and helps. That's why we come here.

Please keep us up with pic's , maybe a grow log. I would like to see the turn out.

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so in a nutshell you guys pointed out something that is being done that you think they will have problems with and he didnt want to hear that, so much for trying to help huh?

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lol, forums crack me up. they didnt tell me something i didnt want to hear, they told me something i know for fact works, wont.
move on.

loc nar, ill be posting up a log or something for sure. i was thinkin about just waitin til it gets exciting though cuz its no fun waiting around 2 months for a harvest...at least thats the hardest part of the job for me, lol. that and id prob forget about the forum and leave everyone hangin. :jointsmile:

The Sealed Room - 3lbs a light
If you have the dedicated space to take 'em from clones to harvest in the same room, and have all the necessary experience required to accurately troubleshoot any problems that may pop-up, it is a viable technique. But likely it would be best to have the basics down before one tackles a commercial-scale grow.

yeah, this isnt my first rodeo. i should clarify that by first real grow i meant i have my room dialed in, bought all the equipment (running a sealed room with co2 also...some expensive equipment) and plan to make some money this run. after i find out how good these LED's are, im either gonna buy more or hang up a couple more thouies and throw in 2 more trays.

Likely best not to mention the sales stuff. Especially since it's kinda against site rules.
http://boards.cannabis.com/growing-i...iscretion.html

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Originally Posted by flipwithit

yeah, this isnt my first rodeo. i should clarify that by first real grow i meant i have my room dialed in, bought all the equipment (running a sealed room with co2 also...some expensive equipment) and plan to make some money this run. after i find out how good these LED's are, im either gonna buy more or hang up a couple more thouies and throw in 2 more trays.

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doesn't sound like you are 100% dialed in if you don't know what your lights are capable of.

good growing.


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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Likely best not to mention the sales stuff. Especially since it's kinda against site rules.
http://boards.cannabis.com/growing-i...iscretion.html

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my bad, legal where im from.

as for not being 100% dialed...of course not...whoever says they are 100% dialed is still going to try new things and find new, better ways.