Irish Balcony/Window Grow

I know its a late grow diary, but here it is anyway. Late spring May/ early summer June.
These babies are 18 days from seed. I'm growing on my window and balcony (depending on weather conditions). I can afford to take that risk cos no one else is in the building and plants are too high up to be seen on the balcony.
Its my first grow, i plan to flower them when they reach about 1-2'.

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They look good. Im curious how your results will be from the window sill. Seems like a big window, but do you have plans to move them somewhere else when they get bigger?

Thanks, i only plan to grow them maybe 1 or two foot high so space won't be an issue, and i'm guessing i'll only end up with 2 or 3 when i weed out the males.
I'll post some balcony pics up soon, its right next to the window great for good weather, speaking of which, this weekend is amazing.

Ok so here we are day 23. We had an absolute stunner of a weekend and I think they've taken to it. I on the other hand am suffering from 3rd degree sunburn, stupid, i never wore sunscreen, but c'mon this is Ireland. Was more like Spain though, awesome weather. Severe pain.
The plants started wilting last night, did a rush search on the internet trying to find some answers, could of been the heat was 22'C >. Anyway i thought they had plenty of water and didn't want to risk overwatering them so i left it. They were grand this morning which is when i took the pics.
Two of the plants have some leaf tissue going a bit scratchy was a bit concerned about this, but it doesn't seem to be developing. Ill take pics soon.

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So my kids arn't babies no more at month old, some are looking healthy, some arn't. New neighbours, so probably no more snaps of balcony growing, from now on they'll all be grown from my bedroom window (south facing). I feel more comfortable them being there.
My majour concern is bugs, as i mentioned previously i noticed scarring on one of the plants, the scarring continued to get worse so i took a closer inspection of the plant, what i thought was dust or dirt was actually a bug. I sqished it. Thought that might solve the problem but the scarring had continued, today i gave another thorough inspection and found more. So from now on ill be checking every day closely. I'm also keeping the scarred plant about a foot away from the others.
My other concern is to do with my fastest grower, its leaves have started curling, i dont own a PH tester so i will go look for one at the weekend but that could be the issue.
No sign of sex yet, Does anyone have ideas based on size, location, breed (hawaii x skunk 1) when it will show ?
Also should of mentioned I'm growing with Plagron Royalty Mix so in two weeks time ill have to start adding nutriants

Plagron

Here are the snaps

My favourite - hoping its a girl
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small krinkle in my favourite
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fast grower
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closeup
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bug plant
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closeup
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2nd closeup
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long shot
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K so todays the last of vegetation for me, the plants are all roughly a foot high and i can't risk growing any larger.
New people have moved into the apartment so I'm scared right now, it's gonna get really scary when they start stinking up my room :) I'll have the place kitted out with dozens of time release air fresheners.
I can rub the stems smell my fingers and get a good whiff of the goods to come, you can smell the stuff at the very tips of the plants too. Can't wait its been about a year since i lit up so its gonna be a very special occasion in 8 weeks time.
The plants are getting very leafy and have taken up most of my windowsill :)
Got rid of the bug problem used this stuff called gnat-off Hydrogarden got rid of them after 1ml and i payed â?¬28 for 250ml. i bought nutrients too. I payed for grow nutrients â?¬12 for 1lt which i'm not going to use. and got bloom and green sensation wwww.plagron.com for free :) I'll start adding that stuff tomorrow.
So it's 12/12 after i get home from work. hope my mate brings home some cardboard boxes.

K so heres my smallest babe

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The biggest (I know, I know should of put them side by side)

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Health looking nodes can't wait to see some budding around these areas

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First leaves looking a bit yellow could be the time release nutrients all gone from soil ohh well food tomorrow

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All together now

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Ok, the plants are growing at a seriously rapid rate now. Don't what to do, don't really want to top them esp in flowering.
I've been looking into bending, but I need a guide. Is really as simple as watering, and then pull the stem down with a string ?
I will get some photos up either today or Sunday. If they actually grow 2-3 times higher then when you started flowing, I'm expecting plants around 2-3' high.
God Help Me.
Anyone have any advice please ?

they look like they are doing pretty good. I;m pretty interested in this and I have a buddy that has been trying to grow in a window sill too.

Anyways... about the stretch thing, yep they can stretch even up to 4x their height from veg... that would probably only happen with a pure sativa though.

as for tieing them down - yeah that is basically it. Obviously caution must be used, normally people start doing it really early on I believe before the stems harden and get difficult to bend... even if you do snap a stem its probably not the end of the world... generally you can just straight it out, tape a splint around it and it'll heal in a couple days but obviously you want to avoid that if you can.

I'd suggest you experiment on the weakest of the bunch first to get the hang of it.

I think if you look around in the advanced techniques form for "LST" (Low Stress Training) you'll find some more info about it.

K will do thanks syde

Ok, so first of all, some photo's coming tonight. Secondly the plants are way bigger then expected and i can't cope with the pressure anymore. There just there in my window for anyone to see. Thirdly a guy recently moved into my apartment, turns out he wants to be a gaurd.
I have a tough decision to make, to either cut them down or to buy a light kit and convert my closet into a growpod. Even then how will i cope with the smell.
I'm getting a new place come September a house, with plenty of privacy and i will be buying a grow kit for sure. It's just heartbreaking coming this far, having very few difficulties, spending a few quid on gear that should last quit some time. But to start over again :(
Any idea's ? please !

Ok so first of all i was thinking, ill take some cuttings but i really don't wanna destroy my crop. So I'm going to get some net/lace curtains and cover up the window, i hope that'll be enough light for their needs. Does anyone know ?

Here is a thought of something you could try. Take a glazed piece of poly carbonate (used for greenhouse walls and roofs). Place this against the window. Then you put your plants in the window sill where they already were. And lastly put up some curtains that have a white backside to reflect light back at the plants and make a make shift grow room. You would still get to use the suns free energy. With a little more work you could seal it off decently and then add and inlet and hook up a small exhaust fan with a carbon filter and you wouldnt have to worry about mold from still air or smell if you are worried about the guard catching a wiff of the plants. I'm just offering an opinion.Good luck with the grow

Do you mean seal the plants between the polycarbonate and the window ?
Yesterday i bought some net curtains hopefully that'll block the nosey pigs vision. I apologise again for no pictures i will try again tonight - my girlfriend made a surprise visit last night, so no pics.
Anyone know when i can start expecting lil buds to appear ?

Sorry 'bout the delay, but here are the pic's all taken day b4 yesterday.

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Tallest is now over 2 foot

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No sign of pre-flowers yet unfortunately

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Don't know why these lower leaves are suffering, any suggestions ?

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I've put up a net curtain behind the plants now, will update with more pictures come Monday.

they look very healthy, HEALTHIER THAN ALL 5 OF MY GROWS, probably going to want to transplant soon, what nutes/soil/water are you using?

I would transplant the shit out of those. By scale it looks like those are only like 6-8" pots, my 5" tall plant is in a 8" pot, give them roots some room, they are looking awesome though.

-C

Thanks lads,

K so I may need to transplant, this is probably whats causing the wilting. I have a few questions though:

1. I'm flowering, will transplanting now do more damage to the plant ?

2. The soil I use is a nutrient-time-release, I'm sure this is packed with (N) won't this upset my plants ?

I'm using Royalty Mix Substrate, Terra Bloom nutrient, will be adding Green Sensation in 3 days.

Plagron

I think the oldest leaves just naturally die at some point. I noticed that one of your plants has the bulging nodes that I have a thread about here so if you would please post on there when the plant shows sex I would really appreciate it, ESPECIALLY if it's a male so I can consider that technique debunked. :)

BTW, if using natural light they won't flower until sometime near the autumnal equinox. They will just keep growing leaves and stems.

JD is right, the plant's baby leaves die automatically because the plant gains nothing from supporting them. The only purpose the baby leaves serve is to allow for photosynthesis and gas exchange when there are no adult leaves. Think of them as baby teeth. We don't need them anymore, we have adult teeth.

Also, they look very sativa to me. You can blame the stretchiness of your plants on this. Usually, sativas stretch waaaaay more than indicas do. You can always cut them down if you don't want them getting too tall.

And like everyone else is saying, if you want to avoid choking your roots and causing root rot, replant them in larger containers.

Good Luck

SMG

Hey JD1stTimer I will of course comment on your thread with my results.
About using natural light, I'm covering the plant for 12/12, so time of year shouldn't really matter (with the exception of winter) right ?
Thanks for your comment SauceeMcGee, I'm seriously considering getting larger pots tomorrow.

In fact we have 2 plants today that flower, they could of been there yesterday, weird i never noticed. I kept looking at the nodes, i should of been keeping an eye on the tops of the plants.
Ok so the first i noticed was male, I've already destroyed it. He was the smallest member of the group all along, I just hope i caught him in time. How long is it before would pollinate ? JD1stTimer this plant had large swollen nodes so i guess you can consider the myth debunked, sorry mate.

This is his legacy.

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This is the female.

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Also some bad news, I'm going to leave it anther day but unfortunately it looks like my most prized and tallest plants has a sack :(

Then there where four !

You don't need to worry about your plants being pollenated, going by those pics they were probably 2 weeks away from bursting open

Just as I suspected, my biggest plant was a male, got rid of him this morning, I tried my best not to get emotional about it. T'was such a beautiful plant, shame really. But to counter the bad news, I also found my second female this morning. 2/5 is not bad, however the situation leaves me with one more plant, will it be a boy or girl - stay tuned.
Pic's coming soon.

Yeah it always seems to be that the most vigorous plants in veg turn out to be males. My current grow was the same way. But the females will catch up and still be very nice! :)

Ok so it seems that the last plant is showing sacks, unfortunately. I will again give it another day, that should be enough development to tell the difference.
So all in all it will leave me with 2/5 not bad for a first grow, I'm a bit upset that one of the females was the one with the bug problem. I've tried my best to keep it at bay. Just hope it doesn't come back.
I want to know what ppl think, now I'm in the 2nd week of flowering should I change the containers or do you think it too risky ?

any words on the sex of that plant?
love you grow log, keep it up:stoned:

Thanks poke1shmot, yes I have 2 females the other 3 where males. Both girls have outgrown (the late) tall male now, and almost outgrowing their night box, I will have to extend that.

Photo's coming this evening.

Nice window grow! :greenthumb:

Transplanting will do more good than harm if you do it correctly. I've transplanted 3 weeks into flowering with no problems.

Also, have you thought about the smell? They should already give your room a nice scent, you just might not notice it yourself :jointsmile:

Thanks, I've read bits 'n' pieces on transplanting, I wanted to do this, this weekend but couldn't find any right pots in town.
My girlfriend say's she notices a smell, but I can only really get it if I go up close, then you get that nice 'pot' aroma ;) But I have definatly noticed like a fresh smell in my room. I'm burning insense alot at the moment, I know it's going to get a lot more stinky yet. My solution - Cover the house in glade auto plugins.

Here are some pictures from last week.

The last two.

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Don't know if you can see this, but there are pre-flowers there.

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and again here -

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Still having pest problems with the same old girl, poor thing, I apply gnat-off with every feed.

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The Night Box, its 20:15

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Nice girls. 8)

I feel like they should be put in bigger pots soon. Does the soil in the pots look like it is pulling away from the sides?

So I have finally transplanted one of the girls, Only one, in case it all goes pear shaped and I loose my first crop.
So I watered the plant the day before, filled the larger pot with soil, which I then flushed because of all the pre-nutes. Then I made the hole for the root ball. Picked up the girl, some light taps, she started sliding out, then OH SHITTTTTTT! What a dumb ass, I was stupid enough to put large stones at the bottom of that small pot. Anyway the stones fell away, the ones that where stuck to the root system I left in place.
There is plenty of space for roots to grow out and down now. It's been two days since I transplanted, things are looking good enough.
I will transplant the other one this weekend if no defects appear.

Well it's been a few days now, the transplated plant looks a little bit peckier, I'd say roots being bound where definatly the casue of droppy leaves, I'm watering again this evening, will transplant the other girl tommorow hope everything goes well.
Also bud is developing nicely and booth plants are looking a lot more fuller.

hows the newly transplanted plants?

I've kept one plant in the small pot after all, the plant I transplanted is going strong but the other has more flower. In fact there's white flowers all over the plant
I'm happy with the amount of progress made in the last couple of weeks, by the calendar, its only 4 weeks to go until I crop. Whether they're ready by then remains to be seen, but fingers crossed, nether thought I'd get this far. Pictures coming soon.

Bud is coming along nicely, I'm really happy, I'll let the pictures talk.

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there looking good for plants grown in our country under no lights.remember next time to bend the stems back and forth after the first ten days to make the stems stronger(stronger stems hold bigger buds) and use bigger pots mate..happy growing....p.s dont put the main st in the background of your oics or someone might noble you

GOOD JOB!! :thumbsup:

tell your the truth i didnt think they would make it

but they are looking good :hippy:

your nearly there. ive been keeping an eye on your log..L.S.T is the way to go next time.and feminised seeds