Afgani - Secret Closet CFL Grow, First real Attempt

Hello Everyone, So here is my first grow log as well as my first real attempt.
I am growing some random afgani strand from this guy I know. I started them from seeds, 7 out of 8 germinated. 6 of the seeds were decently strong looking so I decided one seed per pot and the last 2 seeds that were not as strong looking I put together in one pot. Needless to say that pot never showed signs of life. So now I am on day 4 of veg, they are looking ok. As this is my first time, I was researching all over the place for information and came across bad info. For the first 1.75 to 2 days I had my lights about a foot away, so they stretched a bit, only an inch or 2. I am using 2 40watt/4100k coolwhite clfs, each putting out 2800 lumens, I then went out and got 3 27watt/6500k Daylight cfls, each putting out 1600 lumens, so for the 5 plants that I have growing there is roughly 10000 lumens of 4100k-6500k light. They have just started to grow their 3rd node, very small still. I am watering every 4-5 days, depending on the weight and they feel of the soil. I am also using 3 different kinds of soil that have the added miracle grow, one is starter soil with all that vermilte and perlite stuff, other was similar, very loose soil, and the third was one that would hold water and disperse it better.
Here are some pics of my grow room and my babies as of 9:17pm.

Well Iv attached photos before, at the intro section and Iv looked all over and it seems threw other threads I am able to attach files but for some reason I cannot here. I only have the smilie face, no paper clip. Maybe someone knows why?

You need 50 posts to post in grow log sections.

PITA, I know.

grrrr, well I guess its time to start posting some. I will be back later today with some pics of day 5 after I make "50" posts, thanks alot buddy.

To quote Quarteroy from my grow log:
"Go in and make photo albums in your profile then right click on image "copy image location" then use the symbol in the posting tools that looks like a sunset and paste the location in there done. good luck. you can do big or small but not really a link from big to small depending on where you take the link from. "(http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-pics-etc.html)

Well at the moment I have no time to go around posting like a crazy fool so ill take some time later anyways to make an album, that way anyone can check out my plants. They are growing so fast now, its insane, esp with that mix of lights, Im certain they like them. already I can see the 3rd node starting to come threw on all of them. Im so excited lol. Anywho, Ill keep everyone posted and get some pics up here soon. My current avatar is what they looked like yesturday. happy growing everyone.:jointsmile:

Hmm, photobucket and shoot us the links for now. It'll get us some pictures and you some posts.

beSafe:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by oSecretGardeno

You need 50 posts to post in grow log sections.

PITA, I know.

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I believe its only 20 posts, just FYI.

or else you could just make photo albums on this site and link to them with the insert photo function (as I suggested above)... which you can do regardless of your number of posts.

ya im working on the album, still trying to hit that post mark, watchin max payne tho so Im a bit pre occupied.

um... if you follow the directions that I posted you can post pictures regardless of how many posts you have... which is why I said you can do it regardless of how many posts you have, and why I posted it, and how I posted pics on my grow log. But whatever...

Enhanced I'm glad you started a grow log! Kinda excited to see your little ones. But keep up the grow.

Finally Im able to post pictures and Iv gotten myself a signiture.
Here they are at day 6.

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This one I accedentally put a hole in while adding posts to keep the plant straight. They stretched out a bit during first 2 days.

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So nice

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I love taking pictures of my plants

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Looking good.

Here is my Cubby
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More babies, Day 6.

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Also, anyone know how to make my sigs at the bottom not have the link part?

here's the info on Lst (low stress training)

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs...-training.html

thanks fluid, that is interesting, so basically i tie it down so the bottom leaves get more light and grow better so i have more chance of buds all around as apposed to just on top. I am deff going to try that out.

hey, no problem. it helps get the most from your lights. with cfl's it comes in quite handy since they have a low penetration. there's a couple of other types of training too. search around and see what could work for you.

If I may suggest look into LST (Low Stress Training) it might help with having a even canopy. Also you might also want to check out the SOG method. But the little ones are looking nice but keep them lights close. Now for all those Y spiltters you should stop by ur local walmart and get sockets and cords ($1.98 total for both) then put a Y Spiltter in each socket might help keep lights spread evenly.

Oh ya I know what you mean. Remember this is my first grow and Im broke haha.
I found this link on youtube and Iv found every part but those dumb double ended sockets. I even found a really nice lamp cable with a switch and shit, it was awesome.
Here is the link YouTube - How To Build a CFL Grow Light Fixture - CHEAP!
I planned on doind a double of that under one of those but I cant find them anywhere. It deff would be nice to have a lamp like that plus the cfl clip lamps to surround them. Here are some updates on day 7, Iv got these lamps very very close, the two 2600lumen lamps at 4100k are about an inch or under, the other 3 1600lumen 6500k lamps are about an inch as well, think I could move them closer?

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Does anyone think this one will suffer b.c of that hole?
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Ill update in a few days as they should look very nice then.
Is is not an ok idea to do a day by day post?

The hole wont really effect anything cause on a previous grow my dog tore to shit a few of my plants and they seemed to grow plus it was pretty much holy (lol) and super cropped once he got done with it. Now for moving your plants close to your lights... USE THIS METHOD: If Its To Hot For You Hand Its To Hot For Your Plant. Thats the rule of thumb i go by with my cfls (and any lights). But for the posting day by day its your log due with it as you will. You never know if in the future someone is doing the same grow as you and they use it as a reffrence; the more detailed the better! just a thought :)

Day 8, Update.

They are looking so nice, im fricken excited, if I didnt have a job, Id probably just chill in there. Oh and a quick ? as well, is it ok if I burn around my plants?

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So I didnt have a chance to update yesturday, I was pretty busy.
Here are some lovely pictures of my babys on day 10.

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[attachment=o218483] Surprisingly this plant was my best seed germinated and my best germinated seed to plant until I stabbed 2 holes in the friggen leaves. It now looks like again it still will be the monster as it is way fuller and bigger than the others. I hope its a she. Haha I feel like a father already.

Sooo.ya.

They are growing very fast, I let the soul dry up for about 4-5 days, soil still was moist but not wet at all. I think the best way to grow is to give them a bit less than too much. When the water in the soil evaporates or gets used up for food the soil looses its moisture and the plant goes looking for water. This is a good and bad thing. Too much starvation of water will give you tons of roots and may cause you re pot to early, and obv having too much water will cause root rot or just drown the poor thing. Ive been using about 1.75 cups of water for the smaller plants and about 2-2.5 for the two larger pots im using. Im basing my watering schedule on the number of days and the weight of the plant according to how heavy it felt when watered. I wait 3-4 days and check to see how heavy the pot is, if its very light and i can stick my finger in about 1.5 inches and its dry, its watering time. Next time I am deff going to start in smaller pots so that the roots develop more, these 5 pots I have should last untill the end of week 3, or at least until I notice them getting root bound. Havent juiced them up on anything yet and dont think Im going to until about week 4-5 when I start to flower. The stems are getting really really strong and the fan is deffinitly helping.

I was having some trouble with the temperature tho. Being at the top of my appartment building it gets very humid and hot, which I was unaware of being this is my first place. temps were rocking 86 -87 degrees and this was with an exhaust fan. So I went out and got some air conditioners for the house and they are working like charms, holy crap. 78.5 - 80 degrees, perfect condition. I am very pleased so far and will updat in a day or two.
Time to smoke a "blunt" object :jointsmile:

AC's are the fucking shit. Above my box we have dental air so it blows down directly to my passive intake. Best investment in the AC's on your part!

Ya the AC is working amazing. Once I change the door so I can add a carbon filter Im going to have an intake fan at the top and the filter at the bottom. MMMM cant wait. Im on Day 12 and they are looking amazing, Im starting to have to move the lights a bit cuz they are getting wings. The only thing Im a tad concerned about is on 2 of my plants the leaves are starting to curl upwards a tad and on 3 of them they have 1 small dot like yellowing. I think he dots may be due to water and the lights working like a magnifying glass, but I watered them 3-4 days ago. I checked the soil 15 mins ago and it felt pretty dry about an inch down and the pots feel light like they did before so. I think Ill water them, but today after working im making a watering calender b.c Im almost into week 2 and Im starting to forget lol. But ya here are some pics of day 12 in the morning.
Feel free to let me know what your thoughts are about the little yellow markings.

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Yellow Mark number 2
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Leaf Curl
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Looking good tho
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Ill post some pics later tn.

looks like you're using a few different recipes on the soil too.

Hmm, any clues anyone?

Curling could be from your light being just a lil too close?? I responded about the spots in the other thread :0 looking good so far!!

Rock on!:cool:

How long did it take for those seedlings to get where they are?

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Originally Posted by WeayLay

How long did it take for those seedlings to get where they are?

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They are 12 days into veg.
I am using a mix of 6500k and 4100k cfls, currently 2 4100k 40 watters, one per plant making 2 of them, and 3 6500k cfls, one on each of the 3 left over.
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Here is a plant under the 6500k
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Here is the 4100k, you can see how it grows a bit more bunched together.
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Im going to wait a day or so before updating again so we can see a big difference.

so you made no attempt to post your plant problems in your own log but you will post them in someone elses? nice. did you even post in the plant problems section?

how about you try posting here and see what happens. just because people aren't commenting doesn't mean that they aren't following. that little number, the number to the right of the amount of responses is the number of views.

what is the pH of the water you are giving your ladies? fill out the troubleshooting form (found in my sig) and post in the plant problems forum.


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Wow, so you have quite a lot of lights for each plant. Thanks for answering my question.

looking good man. keep up the good work! the lighting is much better now. all you can do from here is watch them boom! keep the thumb green!

my first guess is pH. Just grab some of those dropper pH testers at the pet store for like $5. Then test your pH of the water going in AND going out. Adjust accordingly.

They look really healthy otherwise.

-sg

Sounds good, thanks guys. And Headshake, ya I know what you mean, it deff would have made more sence to post it here. I think I figured Id get a quick answer that way, but ya, Im noob at this forum stuff. Thanks for the help tho, Im off to the pet store to get some carbon stuffs, and a ph testing kit. So far no more spots and to be honest, the water I used justbefore I noticed the spots and edges of the leaves I had only brita filtered, not left out for 24 hours. So im gonna check the water, I think if the tap water is too high, I might just get some bottled water for them, anyone think that would be a bad idea?? Im still learning. Later today Ill post some picks, there getting big and starting to stink.

no worries enhanced. next time just post in the plant problem section. you'll get a lot more views than if you even post it in your grow log.

use spring water and not distilled. spring has the trace minerals (or a lot of them) that your plants need as opposed to distilled that has nothing.

i guess we'll see what happens when you get back.


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So the leaf curl hasnt really progressed, yet hasnt really gone away on the leaves that were curling. I did move the lights a bit away since the leaves are getting big. I looked into the ph thing, got a water tester, is good for 250 tests, comes with a small flask and drops. So the tap water I had been using, I had been leaving out for 24 hours at room temp so the chlorine would die or w.e and that water tested at 7.5. I had some Bottled spring water, tested that, it was even deeper blue 7.6 or higher. The tester kit had a chart and tested ph of 6.0 - 7.6 if it was right on the money it could be equal or higher/lower. So I was pretty bummed and figured I was giving my plants some bad water, so I pulled out my brita jug. It tested low, 6.0 or lower. So I started playing with a mix of brita water and tap water. Got it down to 1/4 cup tap, 3/4 brita. PH comes out at 6.5. Sweet. So Ive mixed up a bunch of 2L bottles of 2 cups tap, 6 cups brita, and its working great. Im on day 15 today and Im going to water tomorrow morning so Im going to test the run off as well. Aside that, there was one other thing that I found odd. I have a fan rotating on high, its a small desk fan, not super strong but strong enough.
Im noticing that the stems on all 5 plants are sort of shedding. Its wierd. Here are some picks.

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Stem Number 1
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Stem number 2
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Looking good
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Looking very good
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Lill droopy

Hmm so anyone have an idea about those stems??. I dont think its really that important but Im curious. All is going well. Im at 2 weeks 3 days, Day 17. I was reading threw some other logs and Im confused about the nuts and all these terms like scrog and stuff like that. Im using good soil so I hadnt planned on adding nutes until week 3 or 4. Thing is, I dont know what to use, I dont know if I should even use, and I dont know whichones or how much to add. Lol. I see alot of low numbers ex- 2-6-4. Does anyone have a guideline I could use or advice on what to do. They are looking very healthy and happy. I just went out today and got 2 more 6500k 1800lumen cfls and made this niftly looking quad lamp.
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Quad Lamp
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Grow Room update, finished walls....
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With the new door with intake and outake threw carbon filter
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Looks good.
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Carbon filter

WIll update in a few days. If anyone has info on nutes please let me know. On top of that Iv resolved the water issue, Im making my own mix. the plants are not yellowing any more. I cant wait to flower now that I have my carbon filter, I can already tell my appartment doesnt smell. For the past 3-4 days it has had a nice cream aromma from the 5 of them. Oh well we will see.:rastasmoke:

man even though its only a few plants that is a sick operation you have going there, completely concealable, thats awesome man i hope they turn out nice for you

yeah very well done enhanced!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Those spots are nothing to worry about, they look like little water spots from water sitting on the leaves.

keep it up!
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Thanks MPL and Green, I just got lucky with the appartment I got. It has a built in closet in the wall haha and the misses finally agreeded to doing this LOL. Im very impressed with my new door, it seems to be working, although Im not sure the carbon filter is pushing enough air out. IT was keeping a bit warm, but I think with the adjustment of rooms temp it should be ok.