hello every body im back this season

ok im going to try this again this season so far iv got a total of 8 seeds germinnated in these little seed starter things that swell when you add water. 3 are from a seed bank in vancover but i forget the name of them they supposivley grow well in the toronto area. they are all ready out of the dirt. any ways i need some ideas i want to use no ferts i have perlite and vermiculite and a nice organic composte in the back compost bin.after they get about 3 weeks old i want to put them in 5 gallon pails. will the compost and vermiculite and perlite be good for them from start to end.? any ideas or good cheap ways to do a few plants and if i need more product for growing and what that product could be (ontario products pleas) i want to do this right i only get a few months a year. and i would love to have a good outdoor backyard grow log.

thanks in advance

why no ferts?

last year i think i overdone it and come october my plant looked soo good smelt soo good trichs were huge but nothing no high what so ever so i think it was due to too much ferts10/15/10 is what i used and also i always hear its beter to go organic. but if you could give me a good idea on what and how to use ferts and when to use them i will defently use them whatever it takes to get a good crop i dont want what hapend to last year to happen again so im open to all ideas. thanks

ever heard of organic fertilizers?? dont know much about compost but I think I've heard that they are very good. 10/15/10 is 2 strong for both veg. and flowering from what I know. That sounds like miracle grow product or schultz plant food. Veg. stage you want high Nitrogen and low phosphorus and potassium. Fox Farms is what I use.. 6-4-4... flowering you want low Nitrogen high phosph and potassium. Fox Farms Tiger Bloom is 2-8-4. Fox Farms are very hot so you don't necc. follow what the label says. Start of low and work your way up. Thats what you want to do with any fertilizer.

I have no idea why your plant didn't get you high tho.. not even a buzz??? It defintely wasn't because of the ferts because I think it would have killed the plant if the ferts were too much. Only thing I can think of is you harvested too early when the buds were premature.. or wayyy to late. How long did you let them flower for and what told you that they were ready to chop down. You are supposed to look at the trichomes to know when the plant is ready.

Some1 with more experience help this man out!

they were defently ready it started to bud first week of aug and harvested in mid oct there is pics from begining to end on here somewhere from that plant. but ya not even a buzz.can you bye fox farm in toronto area if so where iv never seen it. but ya all ideas for a few backyard plants in 5 gallen pails would be awsome. thanks again

here she is last years bullshit lol

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...rst-plant.html

can i put my seedling right in to a five gallen pail or should i put her in a smaller pot first for a while and when should i start to give some nutes. and everybody talks about fox farm. icant find it any where. do they sell it in toronto. if so where

I dont live in Canada so I dont know where you can get 'em. I get mine at a hydroponics store around here. You don't have to use Fox Farms I was just giving examples of the type of NPK values you want. Not advisable to put seed right into a five gallon pail. Start off with a plastic cup if you can or a very small pot.

The way those plants look I don't see how they didn't get you high. They look safely Sativa.. 10 weeks is enough for Indica.. def. not enough for Sativa. I'm just throwing ideas out there because I want to figure this out.

Can somebody figure out why his plants didn't even get him a buzz.. lol what are you guys good 4?

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I dont live in Canada so I dont know where you can get 'em. I get mine at a hydroponics store around here. You don't have to use Fox Farms I was just giving examples of the type of NPK values you want. Not advisable to put seed right into a five gallon pail. Start off with a plastic cup if you can or a very small pot.

The way those plants look I don't see how they didn't get you high. They look safely Sativa.. 10 weeks is enough for Indica.. def. not enough for Sativa. I'm just throwing ideas out there because I want to figure this out.

Can somebody figure out why his plants didn't even get him a buzz.. lol what are you guys good 4?

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Yes, if they are sativas then I was told that 14 weeks is usually the point to where sativas are the best, but then again I have heard of some sativa strains going as long as 24 weeks to peak harvest!

Also, the drying process or the cure may have not been properly done! From the looks of those plants, I don't see how you DIDN'T get blazed. Maybe you have too high a tolerance :D

Also, just like suggested above, it is not recommended to go from a small pot to a 5 gallon pot right away! Usually I transplant 2-3 times depending on how fast they grow and how fast the root mass grows. It is said that going straight to a 5 gallon pot/pail can cause your roots not to grow fast enough to take up its space and also was told that the better the root mass the better the yield will be! Not sure how credible that last statement is, but it makes sense to me!

wishpotwaslegal, was your first grow bag seed, or did you buy from a bank?

hey guys working lots of hours ssorry i did not get back sooner. i went to local hydrophonic store and dammit they dont sell foxfarm products in ontario anywhere! so the lady showd me other products earthjuice (i think) and iguana guano but man that was like 40 bucks for each and i needed one for veg one for flower one for tea! ahaaa i just want a few in my backyard i only get so many months a year with no snow and i dont want to spend much cash so i think im going to have to shop around and quick too .thanks for info i will def transplant a few times and yes that plant was from bag seed it was only one plant it had smell looks taste. good bagappeal it just sucked ass anad no i dont have a tolerince i only smoke one a day after work really it dosent take me much but thanks again everybody oh ya i almoste forgot has anybody ever used composte from your composte bin? caus i got lots of that

ok hears what i got. pure blend pro gro 3-2-4 for veg. pure blend soil formula pro bloom 1.5-4-5 for buding. also i was given free samples of carboload and monster bloom 0-50-30 witch is not organic but hey it was free.now for soil i have peatmoss vermiculite and perlite and some black topsoil.i think im ready to grow! if there is anything els i would need pleas let me no.
thanks again

well its too bad they dont sell fox farm products in canada. oh well ill have to make do with what i got. anybody get any ansers about the backyard compost and if its any good its totaly 100% organic most of my kitchen scraps is what makes my compost up.pleas let me kno what ya no of it!

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well its too bad they dont sell fox farm products in canada. oh well ill have to make do with what i got. anybody get any ansers about the backyard compost and if its any good its totaly 100% organic most of my kitchen scraps is what makes my compost up.pleas let me kno what ya no of it!

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Your Welcome! I've been keeping up with both threads :thumbsup:

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well its too bad they dont sell fox farm products in canada. oh well ill have to make do with what i got. anybody get any ansers about the backyard compost and if its any good its totaly 100% organic most of my kitchen scraps is what makes my compost up.pleas let me kno what ya no of it!

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while I;m sure its possible... i just get a nasty feeling that its a bad idea... think you'll be inviting problems. And.... I can also tell you that if you have any problems during the grow and you ask here for help, the second you tell somebody offering help that its compost from your backyard... thats what they are going to say is the problem probably lol.

I;m in canada too... currently i;m growing with Hortibec Nature's Mix - vegetable garden & herb mix which I got at home depot... i just mixed in a bunch of perlite and vermiculite that i got at canadian tire with it.

cool what part of canada you in. and with that soil you got did you get good results?

i;m in ontario, about an hour and change outside of toronto.

i;m using the soil i mentioned in my last post this is it here - Modugno-Hortibec

but I add perlite and vermiculite to it as well... i;m getting pretty good results with it, but i;m also using it for indoor and not outdoor

That sucks that you didn't get high from that plant, I too don't understand this. Now that bothers me bad, why would something like this happen and what can we do to not let something like that happen. I know if I grew that baby and than waited all that time and it didn't get me high, I would be pissssssssssed off. :mad:

ya i was pissed but hey this year will be diferent case the three seeds i got from vancover seed bank is calld indica skunk ever herd of this kind its perfect for backyard growing it only gets about 2 and a half feet with one skunky cola. wish me luck and im going with top soil peatmoss vermiculite perlite and organic plant food. wish me luck ill keep posting thrugh the season.

wow sydeoo nice to see someone in my neck of the woods. im in the waterloo wellington area. have you ever grown outdoors? and if so what strain did you grow. im trying to find the best strain for our area (climate).and hey thanks for the soil sugestions
but i was wondering if i use the mix that i have top soil peat, verm, perl, wont the organic nutes and carbololad give the plant all it needs? caus i dont want to over feed. let me no what you think.

thanks!








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