Holy shit- swine flu kills 60 in mex. strain has already been found in cali.----
experts have never seen this strain.It combines animal- man and bird dna.
I think this is the news of the day people----- PANDEMIC ALERT!!!!:(:(:(:(
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Holy shit- swine flu kills 60 in mex. strain has already been found in cali.----
experts have never seen this strain.It combines animal- man and bird dna.
I think this is the news of the day people----- PANDEMIC ALERT!!!!:(:(:(:(
mother nature is always brewing up a new batch of virus...new and improved virus
Yeah and so are nut job right-wing corporate mad scientists who need more sales of Tamiflu. Rumsfeld sees big legal fees on the horizon and needs a rise in stock price!!! :S2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
Yeah and people are always screaming about the coming pandemic: bird flu, mad cow, african killer bees, all of which never materialized.
I seriously doubt we have much to worry about.
the interesting part to me is that humans have been known to get a flu virus from swine, but it almost never gets passed to another human!
weird. and they say evolution didn't happen.
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the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918... killed 40 million people..worldwideQuote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
1918 flu pandemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And the Plaque wiped out around half of Europe's population, the point is, the news media is always causing fear over new "health risks." I forgot SARS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
I'm not saying it isn't possible, but the fear mongering is pointless. It will either be a highly infectious strain or it won't; scientists will quickly find a cure or they won't. More than likely it is overblown paranoia though. If the media would like me to be scared, they need to stop acting like anything that kills a single person will become a pandemic.
86 people dead in Mexico so far... enough for me to worry about my family back in the States :(
the flu is a virus and cannot be cured. you can however make a vaccine (which gives a small crippled amount of the virus, which your body defeats). and since, like the chicken pox, you don't get a virus twice (normally, although yes, it does happen).
the media is owned, and therefore what is put on and how it is portrayed is merely a mis-construed, one-sided view (for the most part).
i mean watch your local news, i bet they don't even take breathes in between "horror" stories. i know my local news anchors don't.
and it's all a ruse to cover up the taking of our rights, money, or whatever else is beneficial for the powers to be.
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Why? 86 isn't exactly a high death toll, not to mention he didn't even provide a link. What exactly does worrying accomplish? Do people enjoy being terrified? You can't do anything to protect them, so why start worrying about a pandemic. 86 deaths does not exactly constitute fear.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtopsfinn
If you want to fear something, try AIDS or cancer, those are proven killers.
apparently someone is scared!
U.S. declares public health emergency as swine flu spreads.
here we go!
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Let the fear-mongering officially begin. I'm not saying they shouldn't prepare for the worst here, but this publicizing it won't accomplish anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by headshake
World gov'ts race to contain swine flu outbreak <-- Suspected death toll is now 103...Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
I'm not terrified, or fearful, yet, just a little worried. Of course I can't do anything about from here... except worry... I heard about this just a couple days ago, and things seem to be getting worse. I saw a headline about the U.S banning pork... wonder how that's going to affect things over there with food prices already very high.
It's also not just the virus that worries me, but all of the events which may come because of this.... school's and workplaces closing, quaratines, force vaccinations, etc.
I'm not saying it doesn't have the potential to be catastrophic. It just seems to me every time we get scared about one of these things they turn out not to be very bad. The main thing I will be interested to learn is what the survival rate is. They didn't mention in that article approximately how many people have been confirmed ill with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtopsfinn
The fact cases have been reported in several different countries already does worry me a bit. Initially, the way people were talking, I thought cases had only popped up in Mexico so far.
Something else to look at is who the virus is actually killing. If it's elderly people and children like most, or if it is killing healthy young adults, like the 1918 virus...
This shit just sounds sooooo sketchy to me. A human flu + bird flu (which baxter has been playing around with Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus | Canada | News | Toronto Sun) + swine flu.... all together??? I think there is a chance that this was man-made :wtf:
Hopefully this thing goes away like all the others did, but so far it's not like the bird flu which seemed more isolated. Now this thing is in North America, New Zealand, Spain, Israel...
Well, probably not much to worry about since it's Baxter to the rescue! Ill-based Baxter working on swine flu vaccine: Associated Press Business News - MSN Money
Sounds like the 12 monkey's and some fringe science.
I don't care about me I'm getting old enough. Try and save the children.
When you disrepect MOTHER EARTH she will fight back. She will find a way even if it is some mad scientist working in her behalf.
deadly flu's and viruses are and important part of evolution. yeah it will kill off some people, but the strongest will live to reproduce. and that's important. true, I don't want to go out like that, but if it helps to make the human race stronger for many more generations of reproduction, then so be it.
as of last night the numbers went up to like 1600 in mexico....I tell you one thing, I'm staying the hell away from pork for awhile....I'm going to become a vegan. HAHAH Lemme stop I couldn't do that if I tried! I'm addicted to boneless fried chicken and hot wings!:D:D:D Also love some fried catfish (southern thing) MMMMMMMMMMM I know what's for dinner tonightttt
Swine Influenza (Flu)
Swine Flu website last updated Monday, April 27, 2009 10:15 AM ET
U.S. Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
(As of April 26, 2009 9:00 AM ET) State # of laboratory
confirmed cases
California 7 cases
Kansas 2 cases
New York City 8 cases
Ohio 1 case
Texas 2 cases
TOTAL COUNT 20 cases
International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
See: World Health OrganizationExternal Web Site Policy.
Human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection have been identified in the United States. Human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection also have been identified internationally. The current U.S. case count is provided below.
Investigations are ongoing to determine the source of the infection and whether additional people have been infected with swine influenza viruses.
CDC is working very closely with officials in states where human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) have been identified, as well as with health officials in Mexico, Canada and the World Health Organization. This includes deploying staff domestically and internationally to provide guidance and technical support. CDC has activated its Emergency Operations Center to coordinate this investigation.
Laboratory testing has found the swine influenza A (H1N1) virus susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir and has issued interim guidance for the use of these drugs to treat and prevent infection with swine influenza viruses. CDC also has prepared interim guidance on how to care for people who are sick and interim guidance on the use of face masks in a community setting where spread of this swine flu virus has been detected. This is a rapidly evolving situation and CDC will provide new information as it becomes available.
We'll all be dead by morning.:jointsmile:
This is going to be bigger than anyone imagines and I am not an alarmist. And I don't think our medical professionals are ready. Check the updates hourly on cdc.org
Wow, this is getting ridiculous. My girlfriend was reading me an article last night talking about the low percentage of cases around the world. That it is beginning to affect Mexico, but still hasn't come close to the average death toll for yearly flu mutations. According to that article, the cases confirmed in the U.S. don't appear to even be life threatening. They interviewed a Mexican guy walking the streets without a trusty mask, and when they asked him why he wasn't being cautious like the rest of the population he said something to the extent of, "there are 109 million people here and about 100 have died, not exactly terrifying odds."
When I try searching for that article I can't even find it. All these articles talk about are the deaths and suspected cases around the world. No one even cares about reporting what is actually happening, they simply want to make it look as horrible as possible. I hope I do get the damn thing. Statistically, I will probably be extremely sick for a week or two, recover, and my immune system will get some much needed exercise.
There haven't been any reports of deaths anywhere other than Mexico. All other cases in other nations don't seem to be fatal...
Granted this is always a risk, but is anyone concerned about what portion of their stash may be coming from Mex? The ol "it gets killed in the fire" theory always sounds good, but I never know how valid that theory is for different types of bugs. Plus, you still have to handle it before the fire part happens.
I'm not too worried about it. I try to avoid Mex-mash anyway. But it has crossed my mind a few times.
good point! it's not like we got the FDA looking out for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by cruisin420
the plot thickens!
WHO raises pandemic alert level; more swine flu cases feared
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i have a pretty sweet government issue gas mask...im not afraid.
Haha, if you want to have a little fun, put on your fatigues and the mask and walk around town for a little while. Unless you would get in trouble with your superiors. I suppose if a bunch of idiots saw you and thought the apocalypse was around the corner, you could be in for quit the shit storm.Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
Being completely honest I can only really think that stuff like this is natures way of thinning the herd.
The frailty of the worlds top predator exposed by something so small, perfect irony. :D :thumbsup: :cool:
lol...that could get interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
I have to agree with you there. I find a bit of humorous irony in these viruses as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
If you were to ever do it, please bring someone along to video tape. Peoples reactions could make you the next internet sensation. If that has never been your ambition (sadly I know people who's top ambition is just that...) you could at least have fun playing with our gullible populace and consider it, "real world training in political leadership."Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
lol...jagged you might be on to something here.
having not even seen a doctor for about 35 years (except for a couple of visits to the emergency room to have something sewn back on), i doubt i'll be running out to get my vaccination.
I wanna know who's riling up the swines? They're beginning to fight back. This is going to end up WW3. Us against the pigs. I think we can take them.:rastasmoke:
U.S. Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
(As of April 28, 2009 11:00 AM ET)
confirmed cases
California 10 cases
Kansas 2 cases
New York City 45 cases
Ohio 1 case
Texas 6 cases
TOTAL COUNT 64 cases
if you think about it humans are pretty much a virus too. we take and take and figure out new ways to take what's best for us and when we start to run out then we'll figure out a new way to make some more or try to colonize another planet to get what we need.
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IMO
The human race is long overdue a good old natural cull.
i think so too. . . i just hope the virus targets only liberals. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
This all reminds me of one of my favorite movies...S. King's...the "Stand"
...it has a happy ending...sorta...:rolleyes:
The voice of reason again. Even back in 1976 he knew what was going on.
Ron Paul Warns Swine Flu Scare Will Be Used As Precedent For More Big Government
Repeat of 1976 fearmongering campaign in full swing
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
“Step back and think for a minute before rushing and panicking” is the message coming from Texas Congressman Ron Paul who has warned that the swine flu scare will once again be used as a precedent for big government intrusion.
“It makes me think back to 1976, the first year I served in the Congress,” Paul has said in a video update. “We had a vote on the swine flu. Back then there was panic, they said it was going to sweep the nation and they rapidly came up with some flu shots and the government was going to inoculate everybody and save the world from this disaster.”
“It turned out that our instincts were correct.” the Congressman, also a medical physician, commented. “Not only did we think that the government should be involved in making medical decisions… but the flu came, the flu went and one person died, except for those individuals that died from getting the flu vaccine.”
Earlier this week we reported on the events of 1976, highlighting the fact that this last significant outbreak of swine flu in the U.S. originated at the army base at Fort Dix, New Jersey.
President Gerald Ford and then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (a man who has long standing intimate ties with the big pharma companies that have and will reap millions in profits from these scares) instituted a mass nationwide vaccination program. More than 40 million people were vaccinated. However, the program was stopped short after over 500 cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome, a severe paralyzing nerve disease, were reported. Officially 30 people died as a direct result of the vaccinations, though the real figure is generally thought to have been much higher.
At the time Congressman Ron Paul was one of only two representatives to vote down the vaccination program. His comments were recorded in the book Swine Flu Expose, by Eleanora I. McBean, Ph.D., N.D.
Paul described the move as “a shocking misuse of funds …and an evil political maneuver”, “blatant advertising efforts to panic the people into taking Swine Flu shots will fail.” Paul said.
Some of the fearmongering advertisement campaigns from 1976 are featured in the following video: