PeakseedsBC Blueberry Grow Log

Hello and welcome everybody to my 2nd grow log of some blueberry I just received yesterday on 4/20 (<~~~it was meant to be) I only germinated 2 to start out with considering that these are supposed to be fert. sensitive and also I only had 2 peat pods left :D So it will suffice for now!! But I placed the seeds in the pods yesterday around 3pm and the following day they had already sprung a tap root (I sneaked a peek :D) and I'm assuming they will be up out of the dirt by tomorrow or the following day.

For this grow, I will be using some garden soil I purchased at Lowe's. I choose this because I can't find the good s*** (fox farm) where I live so I just got what I thought would be best, plus it doesn't have the time release fertilizer like all the rest had (MG soils).

The lighting I will be using for now will be 6 daylight CFL's (26W) in a rubber made container that I used in my last grow to start my plants. Also I will be running a mini oscillating fan (really powerful to be so small) for circulation.

For this grow I will LST both these plants and then take a clone from each plant when it gets around 2 months of veg to determine sex. I will also be using MG fertilizer again, but I will be using it VERY SPARINGLY(i know nobody recommends it, but that's all I can afford right now)! I will have to take a page out of headshakes "ghetto grow" and work with what I got! Also I will be using molasses the whole grow this time along with superthrive to go along with when I fert.

Everyone stay tuned to this log as when it's all said and done I will have some blueberry goodness and some bud porn for everybody to drool over :stoned: LoL and just for the record for those who may think that statement was cocky, all I have to say is I'm confident in everything I do and believe in my skills :D So put on your seatbelt, sit tight, if your a female hold on to your TaTas and enjoy the 4 month ride!:D:D:D

~Peace~Love~Happiness~

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I'm ready! light er up!
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I can't wait! your last grow was awesome. I will be tuned in as well.

checkin it out...

Alright a little update. Out of the 2 original blueberry I had started only one grew out of the dirt. The other one sprung a tap root but never did anything more than that! So with that being said I germinated another one and it's popped and starting it's first set of leaves. As for the other original one it's starting it's second set of leaves.
I've been having a bit of a problem with heat going up to and excess of 90 degrees some parts of the day. It has been making me want to go get a portable ac for the closet. Does anybody have any idea what level of BTU I may need and how much one may run?

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Originally Posted by Italiano715

Alright a little update. Out of the 2 original blueberry I had started only one grew out of the dirt. The other one sprung a tap root but never did anything more than that! So with that being said I germinated another one and it's popped and starting it's first set of leaves. As for the other original one it's starting it's second set of leaves.
I've been having a bit of a problem with heat going up to and excess of 90 degrees some parts of the day. It has been making me want to go get a portable ac for the closet. Does anybody have any idea what level of BTU I may need and how much one may run?

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I wouldn't think that you'd need anything very powerful @ all (I'm trying to recall your dimensions). the one thing I would look for is something with a really good thermostat. my other concern would be humidity, since ac units remove water from the air. but from the info. I got here, low humidity is better than excess. I was thinking about the same thing the other day, it was hot as hell and my temp hit 93. I was freaking out!

Congrats on the newborn!:thumbsup: looking forward to they're future! I need a small ac unit as well... not for the heat, the high output canfan takes care of that but I have a humidity problem :( It's too high! The gauge i have says it's at 64%..goes higher when it rains obviously. Dehumidifier works great on humidity but like everyone knows.. the heat goes WAY up. Have to work this out soon.

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Originally Posted by fluid69

I wouldn't think that you'd need anything very powerful @ all (I'm trying to recall your dimensions). the one thing I would look for is something with a really good thermostat. my other concern would be humidity, since ac units remove water from the air. but from the info. I got here, low humidity is better than excess. I was thinking about the same thing the other day, it was hot as hell and my temp hit 93. I was freaking out!

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My closet is about 4ft X 2ft.....I'm not really worried too much about humidity as I can raise that just by putting a bucket of water in the grow room. I'm just more concerned about controlling temps when I get to the flowering phase...The veg stage can take a little more heat, but the flowering phase is going to be hell because I'm not trying to have airy buds. Like everyone else, I want huge dense buds! Well I'll take dense buds at least :jointsmile:

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Congrats on the newborn! looking forward to they're future! I need a small ac unit as well... not for the heat, the high output canfan takes care of that but I have a humidity problem It's too high! The gauge i have says it's at 64%..goes higher when it rains obviously. Dehumidifier works great on humidity but like everyone knows.. the heat goes WAY up. Have to work this out soon.

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Thank you my friend...I'm sorry I haven't been able to get any pics up yet as my camera is out of commission right now, so I will be getting a new one in the following week to come! I will def. be keeping people updated though with any situation I may come across until the camera's here. So everybody bare with me please!

i will be ordering seeds from them shortly so im very interested in this.
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Alright everyone well I just wanted to update a little bit on the status of the BB. As I was looking at them today, I was inspecting to make sure no bugs were around or on them. So, as I was getting ready to look at the under side of the leaves I thought there was something wrong. I picked up one of them and looked at it close and just realized that the complete underside of all the leaves are a deep purple as the topsides are green. At first seeing it I wasn't sure what to think, but as I got to really see the color I just smiled from ear to ear realizing that I may have a purple plant in the near future. I was always itching to get on some type of purple pheno plant and my dreams may have come true (Knock on wood).

Also I went ahead and started 2 more seedling about 2 days ago and one so far is about to break through so it will probably be ready to go in soil in about 3 to 4 days.

I'm still having a bit of heat problems as the temps fluctuate between 78-85. So I just got a fan blowing directly on them until I can control these temps! Luckily it has been really hot where I reside and I've been running the AC a lot so it's been helping. Even with the temps being that high at some times they don't look like they are really having problems as of yet so I'm thankful to that! :smokin:

Otherwise, everything is OK as of now and I WILL be getting a camera SOON! Sorry, money just hasn't been right yet!

The plants turn purple on the bottom because of cold nights, or so i have read. i have purple on mine near the undersides of the stems, nothing really to worry about.

As for those temps they sound fine to me. I think as long as your not going above 90 you will be fine. Mine are in that general range and seem to enjoy it quite a bit.

Cant wait for some pics. Perhaps a camera phone shot to tide us over.

i concur with alby. photosynthesis doesn't cut off 'til around 90 degrees. when i start off seeds in soil, after germ, they go in a box without any fans or anything. the temp gets up to 85-86 and they seem to enjoy it. remember, some of the best strains come from hot places!

i have read that blueberry plants will show red, purple and blue hues and will cure up to a lavender blue color.

you might want to stay away from the superthrive in flower. i hear you are not supposed to use it and it could have been the cause of my problems with the plants leaves in the first two grows.

get the camera fixed already! we demand pics!


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Originally Posted by albatrossSKY

The plants turn purple on the bottom because of cold nights, or so i have read. i have purple on mine near the undersides of the stems, nothing really to worry about.

As for those temps they sound fine to me. I think as long as your not going above 90 you will be fine. Mine are in that general range and seem to enjoy it quite a bit.

Cant wait for some pics. Perhaps a camera phone shot to tide us over.

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Nah they are definitely COMPLETELY purple underneath. Like I'm not exaggerating when I say COMPLETELY. If I were to turn them upside down you would see no green on the stems nor the leaves! Also, the tops are starting to get a purple tint. I think it's the strain is why I'm getting these phenos. I definitely know it isn't cold nights as my temps never get lower than 75 at night. My last grow did that, definitely because of the cold nights as I did the grow in the winter time so I never ran the heat as the lights did all the warming up for me:D

I have been using superthrive with all my waters so far with no problems at all. 1 or 2 drops per gallon and alls well.

thought i would chime in on that.

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Originally Posted by albatrossSKY

I have been using superthrive with all my waters so far with no problems at all. 1 or 2 drops per gallon and alls well.

thought i would chime in on that.

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Yes, I used ST for my last grow as well and didn't see any problems from it, but then again I wasn't expecting what I got off them so it was all smiles my way!:D

Also...I haven't used anything but plain water so I know it has nothing to do with any chemicals.

Time for pics man!!!!
Sounds like all is going well. Weird on the all purple.. mine didnt do that :(
My blueberry are growing faaast. The ones I topped and or fim'd now have multiple mains growing.. I think..heh. pics on my log that is in the wrong thread..........my bad.

Can't wait to see how they do with the LST.

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Italian715, it's good to see you, my friend - even at the other place was a pleasant surprise seeing a familiar face. It sounds like you have some real beauties forming - the purple sounds intriguing, and I am, like all others, looking forward to some pictures; I know you must be anxious to share them.

I wish you much luck with your grow, and I look forward to the ride.

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Time for pics man!!!!
Sounds like all is going well. Weird on the all purple.. mine didnt do that
My blueberry are growing faaast. The ones I topped and or fim'd now have multiple mains growing.. I think..heh. pics on my log that is in the wrong thread..........my bad.

Can't wait to see how they do with the LST.

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LoL...I'm sorry it's taking soo long, I have a buddy on the way over here with his camera as we speak, so I should have some pics up for everyone today of my little babies!

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Italian715, it's good to see you, my friend - even at the other place was a pleasant surprise seeing a familiar face. It sounds like you have some real beauties forming - the purple sounds intriguing, and I am, like all others, looking forward to some pictures; I know you must be anxious to share them.

I wish you much luck with your grow, and I look forward to the ride.

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Why hello jakezking....Good to see your still here as well as over there! Everything moves SOOO fast over at IC it's ridiculous. Yes, I've been itching to get some pictures in and it's driving me nuts not being able to, but I will have a few soon enough!!

Also, I would like to thank everyone that is keeping up with my log, I really appreciate all the encouragement and opinions! :jointsmile:

Alright everyone, just a question here.....

Jungle Growth Professional mix....Anyone heard of it or used it?!

I purchased a bag from Lowes considering everything else was MG and was trying to stay away from it. The soil itself looks good, not sure on how my babies will respond to them though. :wtf:
Any feedback would be great! :thumbsup:

This may help you a lil... i have a friend that grows and has been growing for as long as i could remember (infact when i was younger my father found our plants in the backyard :) anyways he uses that soil and loves it! after i finish with the sets that i have i am gonna use that soil becuase i am tired of having to order my shit and get it a week later when i need it now lol. I hope this helps
ps he grows some BOMB weeed and only uses some random ass plant food like 10-15-10... think its schultz or something... not sure but its really nice and healthy buds come harvest time :)

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This may help you a lil... i have a friend that grows and has been growing for as long as i could remember (infact when i was younger my father found our plants in the backyard :) anyways he uses that soil and loves it! after i finish with the sets that i have i am gonna use that soil becuase i am tired of having to order my shit and get it a week later when i need it now lol. I hope this helps
ps he grows some BOMB weeed and only uses some random ass plant food like 10-15-10... think its schultz or something... not sure but its really nice and healthy buds come harvest time :)

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I appreciate the feedback. Started to figure no one has heard of it, even though many go to Lowes. :D I hope it does treat me well, I bought some more perlite just in case it's not draining like I'd like on these pots they are in now. So far they seem to love it. They are starting to be bushy little F'ers. Also, I have started to LST one of them and will probably start another here in about a week when it gets a bit more growth. Other than that, they are starting to look good, except for the youngest one, which I accidentally watered with tap water (not from the ph corrected water) and the leaves curled (canoed) a bit, but I will correct that and get that sucker back on the road to goodness! :D

Alright here are some long awaited pictures, but the only problem is it's from a camera phone, so the pictures don't really do any justice to the plants themselves. I have three of them that are started and each of them are all about a week behind each other....Also, I have gave a couple them a 1/4 strength feeding about three days ago and they have been responding well too them so far. :thumbsup:

Pic 1: The original BB from 4/22
Pic 2: The middle child :jointsmile:
Pic 3: The youngest of them all

Hey hey!

Some pictures! lookin' good. I can kinda see a little purple hue in the first plant. Is it clearing up or still showing heavily on the underside?

begood, beFree:jointsmile:

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Hey hey!

Some pictures! lookin' good. I can kinda see a little purple hue in the first plant. Is it clearing up or still showing heavily on the underside?

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Yes, the undersides are still purple, but more so deeper purple towards the bottom. As it goes it gets lighter, but as they have been maturing the older foliage below started getting the deep purple undersides. It's like it comes in a light greenish purple and then as the foliage get "older" it starts to get the deep purple.

I also ran out of PH testing solution and watered without it one watering and gave my plants a ph f*** up on the backside of the biggest one :wtf: When I went and got some more solution I tested the water and it was 7.2 :wtf: So I corrected it. It's ok though cause as it's getting bigger I'm pruning off the small foilage at the bottom and will start to really LST them in about a week. I had started one, but then decided to not do it and just wait till it gets a bit bigger. I've only got 5 lights on them for now and will be upgrading to about 10-15 in about a week. Definitely will be blasting the AC to keep the temps down! :jointsmile:

I am excited for this grow. plants are looking good so far.

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I am excited for this grow. plants are looking good so far.

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I should be posting some new pictures here soon. They are looking way better than those pictures. It seems that the youngest one (two weeks behind the oldest one) is bigger than the other two. They have really started to bush out since I LSTed them. This is the most boring part though going through the vegetative state. :cool: Which is another reason I haven't really been posting much in here. Hard to find any questions or problems when I can diagnose most of them now. I'm sure though I will run into a problem sooner or later (knock on wood) and will be here to have someone answer! I appreciate you taking the time to check out the log!

Anybody used/using it? I just purchased some and was debating on how to go about adding it. I wanted to get rid of the MG crap and try something different and it seems that the only difference other than MG products were this and like a couple others.

Alaska Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1
Alaska Morbloom 0-10-10

I know I will need the P and K, but will the fish emulsion be enough? or should I use maybe some of the morbloom also? I was thinking of maybe using 1 part emulsion to lets say 1/4 part morbloom or somewhere along those lines. Anybody have a good mix or way to use it?

Plants look good Italiano. Can't wait to see them grow up more!

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Anybody used/using it? I just purchased some and was debating on how to go about adding it. I wanted to get rid of the MG crap and try something different and it seems that the only difference other than MG products were this and like a couple others.

Alaska Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1
Alaska Morbloom 0-10-10

I know I will need the P and K, but will the fish emulsion be enough? or should I use maybe some of the morbloom also? I was thinking of maybe using 1 part emulsion to lets say 1/4 part morbloom or somewhere along those lines. Anybody have a good mix or way to use it?

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is there any directions on the labels italiano?


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Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1

• Indoor plants, large: mix two teaspoons per quart of water.
• Indoor plants, flowering: mix one teaspoon per quart of water.
• Shrubs: three tablespoons per gallon of water for every 2ft. of plant height (doubt this one matters)

It also has mixes for annuals and bedding plants, bulbs, vegetables, and herbs. Also for root vegetables as well as perennials, roses, vines, and berries. So much different applications.

Morbloom 0-10-10

• Indoor plants that bloom: one teaspoon per quart of water. Apply every 10-14 days
• Shrubs: Two tablespoons per gallon of water for every 25 sq. ft. of soil (doubt this matters either)

Other metals found in the morbloom(PPM):

• Arsenic (As) 8.5 Cadmium (Cd) 1.2 Cobalt (Co) 0.85 Copper (Cu) 10.7 Lead (Pb) 4.3 Mercury (Hg) 0.1 Molybdenum (Mo) 0.85 Nickel (Ni) 1.7 Selenium (Se) 17

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I was thinking of adding a mix of both considering one doesn't have any N and the other does. What would be a good mix for them? How much more N than P and K should I have for them? LoL I'm sounding like a real n00bie. Sorry just finally upgrading from MG fertilizers and want to do it right.

Maybe a tablespoon (for a gallon) of the fish emulsion and maybe 2 teaspoons of the morbloom? Should I use just the emulsion and not the morbloom? I know I should have done more research before purchasing this stuff, but I was already at Lowe's and just strolled by it and grabbed them. It says it can be used organically which is another reason I got it.

they are still in veg right? how far along? speaking of, where is the camera?!

i'd go with a teaspoon of the fish emulsion and about a 1/2 a teaspoon of the moorbloom.

the reason i say this is because i've read the for veg a 5:2:3 (NPK) ratio is desireable. i know this won't be perfect, but it's a starting point. from there you can adjust as you see fit and push them to the limits.


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hey shake, where did you find the 5:2:3 info? I've been looking for that. by any chance to you know the ideal numbers for flower?

honestly i can' remember fluid. somewhere on the net. lol. for bloom i've got 1:5:4.

hope this helps. i'll see if i can't locate this info somewhere. i just jot notes into a notebook i keep. so i did read it somewhere and didn't make it up!


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thanks shake, I'd rep ya, but you know the deal. it's good to write stuff down, cause I can't remember squat. any strains known to help short or long term memory? LOL

Italiano, you gonna have to throw me and shake some weed porn. I know you gotta be kickin ass on this grow.:thumbsup:

already fluid. my memory is going too! *note to self, work on a strain to help short/long term memory!*

PORN! PORN! PORN! PORN!


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hey are still in veg right? how far along? speaking of, where is the camera?!

i'd go with a teaspoon of the fish emulsion and about a 1/2 a teaspoon of the moorbloom.

the reason i say this is because i've read the for veg a 5:2:3 (NPK) ratio is desireable. i know this won't be perfect, but it's a starting point. from there you can adjust as you see fit and push them to the limits.

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Yes, they are still in vegetative not to sure how long they been in vegetative but two of them are 42 days old and the youngest one is 35 days old (from seedlings). Youngest has 7 nodes and the 2 oldest have 9-11 (btw the two).
Funny though, the youngest is by far the biggest, which leads me to believe its a male. I'm calling it now, so we'll just have to wait to see when the branching starts and I take clones! :D

Sorry to sound stupid, but your saying I should go with 4 tsp (one Tbs. and one tsp.) a gallon of the emulsion and 2 tsp. to the gallon of morbloom?

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Sorry to sound stupid, but your saying I should go with 4 tsp (one Tbs. and one tsp.) a gallon of the emulsion and 2 tsp. to the gallon of morbloom?

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it's okay italiano, i know your not stupid! i said i would start with a teaspoon of the emulsion and 1/2 teaspoon of the morbloom! at least that's where i'd start and see how they do and adjust accordingly. then, depending on when you flower them you shouldn't have to give them much during flower.

just my $.02.


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Originally Posted by headshake

it's okay italiano, i know your not stupid! i said i would start with a teaspoon of the emulsion and 1/2 teaspoon of the morbloom! at least that's where i'd start and see how they do and adjust accordingly. then, depending on when you flower them you shouldn't have to give them much during flower.

just my $.02.


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Yeah, so I gave them what you said and they seem fine with it so far. Got a little on a couple of leaves and dabbed it up before it soaked in the leaf, but it got a little burn still. :wtf:

On another note, that emulsion is some stinky shit. Makes me gag if I smell it. Also leaves a smell on ya for awhile. Walked outside to talk to my buddy and he goes, "What is that smell? Smells like fresh soil and shit!" LoL I got a good laugh then realized it was me that smelt like that! :smokin:

Also, I damn was putting the pots back in their spots and I damn pinched a fan leave between the two pots and ripped the leaf some, but I've been checking on it and it doesn't seem to have bothered it too much.

Got a question also....When you take clones from a plant, does the yield suffer from the cuttings? Reason being, it seems to be the best way to do a SOG. I want to do a SOG with clones and I don't have the room for it, so I thought about taking a shit load of clones from the BB and pack them in my closet for the SOG. Would it be possible to completely rape the whole plant for clones? Then that way, I could maximize my CFL lighting in my closet without having to worry much about getting the penetration to the lower sites.

Appreciate any feedback!:thumbsup:

yeah, you can rape the plant italiano! just leave a tab bit and you can re-veg her and do it again!


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BET! That's the plan then! I was going to just take some cuttings from the bottom, but if I can completely rape her and grow ALL clones, I am going to make it happen! :D I will just give my buddy the rest of the plant and let him re-veg and keep her!

Also, I can take cuttings, root them in a couple of weeks, then go right into flowering? Would 1 gallon containers be sufficient enough to flower in?