CFL First Grow from Bagseed

Complete Cabinet Cfl Grow

Seeds: Regs Bagseed
Soil: Botanicare Cocogro
Nutes: FoxFarm Grow Big and Big Bloom
Light: 9 26 watt CFLs equaling roughly 900 regular watts
Ventilation: Intake Central Air Exaust 365 cfm inline fan
Odor Control: none atm
Closet/Cabinet: 34.5'x17.5'x71'
Vegetation: Started on 24/0 but soon moved to 18/6 light cycle

Ok. I didnt want to start a grow log too soon as it seems many people start and never finish.
March 3rd: Seeds were Germed. Germed about 15 all came out. Picked the best looking ones. 4 were planted.
Planted on the 6th into Miracle Grow 2 Month Feeding garbage soil. (i wish i took the advice of the forum and didnt use a pre mix, anyway). They were not proforming as well as i wanted in the first days so i took a trip to the local hydro shop and picked up some cocogro.
March 13th: Transpalnted into the Cocogro. Into 4' pots. Most are yellow from shock i am guessing.
March 29th: I started using FoxFarm Nuts at the 2 week point. Grow Big is all im using at the moment, but will start to add BigBloom very soon. All 4 are looking quite well with most having 5 fan leaves and starting to show their 7 fan leaves.

About 5 days ago i started to germ another batch of seeds, this time it was from some mids, Arizona. Planted them into the cocogro and they are looking good. About 2 days out of the soil now.


Sorry for not having pictures tonight, but i assure you tomorrow they will be up. :jointsmile:

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Its been 26 days since gem for the 4 bigger plants, and about 4 days for the ones in the cups. Some of the leaf tips are brown or yellow i think its from the stress of transplanted and using nuts too soon. I think i have it under control now though as the new growth looks amazing. Let me know what you think....

gosh, they are looking fine from here. good luck with your first grow, A-sky. :thumbsup:

lookin' good. glad ya got them out of the auto feeding shit. But you should build a makeshift shelf under the babies in the beer cups. They are really stretched.(2-3 inches is ideal for CFL's, a little less than 2 inches if you can keep the temps at a constant 72.)

Loving the mylar though. Also, go by the actual wattage on the CFL's. 9 x 26 is what you're running. =) Hehe, another also. >.> Are ya ph'ing anything or just running with whatever your tap comes out at?:smokin:

beSafe.

Thanks for stopping by.

Ya they are stretched cause i left them in the dark for too long. Im not very concerned right now, they will be strong plants.

Temps are running between 68-85 day and night.

I am ph'ing, tap water is 7 and im bring it down to about 6 before i use it.

Nice looking setup. Any plans on topping or training them?

i got the room to grow them to atleast 4-6 feet so im not really sure. I think they should be ok with out any. what do you think?

I'm probably not the best person to ask that, seeing as my cab is only about 3' tall. If you want to see what happens when you top and train like a crazy person, check out the link in my sig.

Plants are looking great! :thumbsup:

If I may add one thing... the clear plastic cups are not the best, because the roots will want to grow to the edges, but they don't like light. I'd cover up the sides of those cups with something light-proof.

Otherwise, keep up the good work, and keep us updated! :jointsmile:

when i woke up i look at the cups and sure enough the roots have hit the sides. im gonna tape them up right now. how long do you think i should wait before transplanting those into real pots?

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when i woke up i look at the cups and sure enough the roots have hit the sides. im gonna tape them up right now. how long do you think i should wait before transplanting those into real pots?

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Kinda have to just go by feel... If you transplant too soon, the roots will be encouraged to spread and grow, which will slow down growth above ground. If you wait too long, you will get root-bound, which is not good at all. This explains it in a little more detail:

http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...ency-baby.html

I like to let the roots "bunch up" a little on the bottom of the cup before I transplant.

thanks, wen i just taped them up i could see the tap root at the bottom of the cup, i think im gonna give them another week max then move to bigger pots.

OH! when i was inspecting the plants i lifted one up and a fly came out from under it. i checked all the other girls and nothing. should i be worried about this or is it possible that it is just a single fly? Ive read about spidermites but have not heard anything about anyone with flies. thanks in advance

I just had Sarcid flies/ fungus gnats they suck the problem isn't the flies its the larva that feed on the roots. I wound up with mine because i was keeping my soil to moist all the time. i think. Organicide at home depot is what Whiskytango recommended to me. used it and changed soil (when i re potted) that's how i got rid of them. But You need to look up pictures to see what kind of fly it was there are several others all of them are not really a good thing. if you don't see any more I wouldn't worry about it but take a close look at the fly and google "Cannabis pests" compare and it will tell you how to get rid of them.

The tap root tends to hit bottom far sooner than the rest of the root system, so you should still have a few days of growth in the cup at least.

FIM now, smile more later... that much headroom and i'd definitely top and train the shit outta it.

i was thinking about topping them, but do you think its too soon?
and ive never done it before so i dont want to mess the plant up either.

i basically know you have to cut the new growth at the top as close to the two branches as you can. thats what i believe topping to be. which will then hopefully give you 2 colas instead of one. someone correct me please...
if anyone knows of a guide with clear pictures and instructions i would love that

i found this
Guide: Fimming and Topping made easy
but anything else would be great

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Originally Posted by albatrossSKY

i was thinking about topping them, but do you think its too soon?
and ive never done it before so i dont want to mess the plant up either.

i basically know you have to cut the new growth at the top as close to the two branches as you can. thats what i believe topping to be. which will then hopefully give you 2 colas instead of one. someone correct me please...
if anyone knows of a guide with clear pictures and instructions i would love that

i found this
Guide: Fimming and Topping made easy
but anything else would be great

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make sure your plant has over 5 nodes before you start topping, unless your in constricted space!!

peace and goodluck :) :thumbsup:
Denial

all right a small picture update. i konw its only been 2 days but i plan on keeping a very detailed picture log. any comments are appericated.

inner growth really taking off
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its lsting itself?(growing on a slant)
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bushy mcbushington
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Looking very nice :thumbsup:

You can probably start training soon, looks like you got 5 nodes in the first one at least, and looking very healthy!

since i have the room to grow the plants as high as they want to grow do you think i should top or lst them at all? will i yield more?

plants are looking great. I will be following this!

also what is the soonest you can put a plant into flowering? could it be done in the first 2 weeks?

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also what is the soonest you can put a plant into flowering? could it be done in the first 2 weeks?

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if you want a 3gram harvest do that :) If you want to wait a few more weeks and get a flowered 30gram+ harvest wait. :):thumbsup:

goodluck man

Peace,
Denial

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if you want a 3gram harvest do that :) If you want to wait a few more weeks and get a flowered 30gram+ harvest wait. :):thumbsup:

goodluck man

Peace,
Denial

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im just asking cause i think i can see pistils but im really not sure. let me see if i can get a good macro for you

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im just asking cause i think i can see pistils but im really not sure. let me see if i can get a good macro for you

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ohh, coool, well i mean some plants show signs of sex in veg, but the reason its best to wait a whle before flower is because the plant usually only doubles in size during flowering (the rest of energy goes to bud sites).. so more budsites and fan leaves more budsites and buds and greater capital growth (total height) in the flowering stage.

meh thats just my 5 cents i guess :) look forward to the macro geeza,


peace,
Denial

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pistils?

is this a female? or is this normal on all plants?

That's normal. How far along is it? Usually they don't start showing preflowers until the end of veg.

that picture was taken on day 29. so the pistils to tell if its a female will we diffrent looking from those?

http://mehemp.tv/cms/images/stories/...q/itof0000.jpg

Pistil picture for ya. =) Just a random google .img. I got tricked by those spikey deals as well. =)

beSafe.:smokin:

justed watered the plants with foxfarm growbig and bigbloom, i also used 2 drops of superthrive and some ph down. the ph of the gallon was 6 on the dot. over the next week i think the plants will really take off.

@befree : i got ya, i can tell the diffrence now. thanks for the info.

Not a problem bud. =D I'm not as dank as others with knowledge, but I do know a couple key beneficial things.

Take it easy:jointsmile:

Ive decided that i will post twice weekly a picture report and if i have anything to say it will be added randomly.

So this is the 30th day since they were germed. All look healthy. One is growing much faster than the others, im scared its gonna turn out to be a male, but whatever good exp. Gonna do my first topping in the next couple days, and will take a before and after shot. Like I said in my last post I watered with the GrowBig and BigBloom with 3ish drops of superthrive, It really seems like its working well.


great growth in 4 days
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inner growth is making me wet
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new 7 fan leaves
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As always any comments would be appericated. http://boards.cannabis.com/images/smilies/stoned.gif

I finally subscribed to this grow log but have been watching for a while now. I am amazed at how fast these plants are growing! Good job man. I only wish mine would grow this fast. It's been about 15 days and my plant is pretty damn small.

Im not too expierenced. but shouldnt your lights be closer to your large plants? i mean they are fine for the small clones, but shouldnt the larger ones be close to the light bulbs?

i dont think its a issue for me because i have so many lights in such a small area. and i need moar!

Moved some of the pots around in the box, its getting kind of crowded. I have transplanted 2 of the "mids" plants into larger pots, they should be taking off soon, I also left 2 in the small cups and will see what happens.

The count is 4 plants from regs, 4 plants from mids. Im thinking realistically i can only have 3 maybe 4 plants in the box for flower mode. And decided I will wait another 20 or so days before i induce flowering.

As it looks now
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I'll bet that they show sex by day 50 veg. Nice job, Alby. :thumbsup:

looking good sky! really nice work.

you could get some square pots, they seem to make everything nice and neat and, well, square. lol.

LSTing or top/FIM would increase your yields, but it really depends on how much time you want to put into your ladies. check out my first grow log, i LSTd those bitches. with your headroom though i would maybe do it a bit and then let them run. just my opinion there.

keep up the good work!

-shake

Everything is really going according to plan so far. They are all looking great. If im not mistaken i think i can slightly smell the big one. About 16 more days of veg before the 12/12 will start.

Bush Cityhttp://boards.cannabis.com/images/sm...m/cansmile.gif
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Any comments or feedback would be great.

i just watered them as well. used about 3/4 of a gallon between them all. some superthrive, 1 spoon bigbloom, 2 1/2 spoon growbig and a ph lowerer. about a 6 ph~
Poured most onto the soil then filled a spray bottle and did some sprays on the leaves and under on the stem.