100% germination, every time ... EASY !

OK, I lied :wtf:, I haven't gotten 100% germination this way, more like 99.5% ;) ... just do as I did, and don't change anything ... if you disagree, go away :D ...

1. build the bubbler box I built ... I built mine for cloning, then found out it is an incredible seed-starter :thumbsup:

2. use dim lights during germination and cloning, until roots are established ...

THIS REQUIRES ME TO MAKE SEVERAL POSTS, SO PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT THE THREAD, UNTIL I'M DONE !

OK ?, here we go ........................

go to wallyworld, etc., buy TWO identical clear plastic tubs ... one will be for the bubbler tank, the other will be a humidity dome (that's why the clear) ...

buy a bag of 'Rapid Rooter' plugs, NO SUBSTITUTES !

paint the bottom box black on the OUTSIDE with either Krylon Fusion plastic sparypaint, or simply cover with duct-tape, etc ... makes it lightproof

drill 1" - 1.25" holes in one lid ... if they are too large, just stick a toothpick thru your rapidrooters ...

you will need an aquarium heater, cheap, automatically keeps the solution about 75 degrees

also, need a cheap aquarium pump, and airstones, that will bubble well

you will be using ONE DROP of SuperThrive per gallon of water ... I use chlorinated tapwater, helps guard against fungus, algae, etc ...

you will change this water every 5 days, replacing it with same

see what we're doing here ?

place a DRY seeds into a RapidRooter plug, about 1/4" deep, and lightly tuck a small piece of rooterplug into the hole ... the emerging seeds needs a little resistance to peel it's shell off ... besides, if the seed is to weak to push thru, it isn't worth growing out ...

with the bubbler going 24 hrs a day, dim light, and about 75 degree solution, just walk away .... leave it alone, come back on the third day, this is what you will see ... in my case, 13 seeds, 13 sprouts, one male (No-stress is the Key)

which, grow into this:

now, you can use your extra bottom box (remember, we bought two of them) ... the spare lid can be flipped upside-down and used as a humidity dome, and your spare lid can be cut for 1 or 2 large net pots holes, or a bunch of small RapidRooter plug holes ...

now, that's how I do it ... if you do the same, you'll be glad you did ... if you do it differently, don't whine to me :D

:thumbsup:

and, it gets a lot easier :thumbsup:

I apologize for the typing errors, and spelling, I was in a rush, to get this done, before comments, questions, etc ... ;)

But how much water, or how high in the res.?
thinks

sjov

I run the water level far enough under the bottoms of the plugs, that they stay damp, but not soaking wet (can't give a distance, as that depends on the air pump and stones) ... the photo shows them too wet, really, I dropped the level down after ... that's the beauty of the RapidRooters, supposedly, the way they retain and drain water, is just right for seeds and clones ... you need to watch the roots don't dry out, that's about it ...

and, I should give credit to 'Opie Yutts' :thumbsup:, this is basically a copy of his bubble-cloner :smokin:

That is brilliant.

Very nice!!:)

I think i will make one for myself.

Fantastic, gotta rig up one of those very soon!!! :thumbsup: :jointsmile:

Good work man (even if you did steal it from opie) it's easy too build,easy too use, and cost effective.I think many noob's will like this.


Dive:stoned:

Thanks a lot IR, this worked good! :thumbsup::hippy:

omg...i actually did this while the server was down...well minus the humidity dome....but i got 100 percent out of 15...i just place my seeds...(the viable looking ones) in a solution that is around 20 parts distilled tap then when they drop down i place them into the rooters...no super thrive for me....oh and my top is covered with reflective duct tape...but almost identical...hmm...terrific post tho....when i fill mine up again do you mind if i take a post a pic on this thread?...it wouldnt be for a couple weeks anyway tho

Very clever idea but how much did the whole setup cost?

*round of applause* Looks great! This method will prove priceless for all those lost souls left over from the DIY bubble bucket thread who are stuck wondering how to hydro from seed without clones. +2kudos :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by the image reaper

place a DRY seeds into a RapidRooter plug, about 1/4" deep, and lightly tuck a small piece of rooterplug into the hole ... the emerging seeds needs a little resistance to peel it's shell off ... besides, if the seed is to weak to push thru, it isn't worth growing out ...

with the bubbler going 24 hrs a day, dim light, and about 75 degree solution, just walk away .... leave it alone, come back on the third day, this is what you will see ... in my case, 13 seeds, 13 sprouts, one male (No-stress is the Key)

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which one is the male???and how did you know it was male from them being so little???

IR... meant...later ...when the plants (sprouts) showed their sex...usually at the start of flowering cycle

(at least, I think he did...knowing IR?...it's hard to say...:thumbsup:...)

:D yup ... I determined the male, after they had grown out, and showed sex, of course ... :smokin:

Did you add the dome cover after they sprouted or did you use the cover while they were still seedlings??

Looks and sounds good-how much for the set-up

how much for set-up

I recently built one for a buddy, with all brand-new parts ... I think I spent almost $60 on it, but, I could have done it cheaper ... I 'overbuilt' it, with a large airpump, etc ... if you already have a couple rubber tubs, aquarium heater, and pump, you're pretty much 'good to go' :thumbsup:

although, I have to add, just recently, I went entirely 'old-school', and took DRY seeds, placed into warm, moistened-soil cups, and still had 90% germination :greenthumb: ... anytime you can avoid the pre-soaking, 'wet paper towels', and too-damp soils, you avoid the risks of Pythium Wilt (damp-off), and other fungal problems ... :smokin:

IR-this is excellant&very doable thanks!

My first post here, I just wanted to say thank you for this! :thumbsup:

I successfully germ'd atleast 3 out of 6 seeds using a copy of this RR bubblebox. This might not sound impressive at first but the seeds are atleast 10-12 years old... Its amazing how long seeds will last in a black film canister.

It's been 3 days, 3/6 sprouted.. the other 3 appear to be cracked but are lazy or something. Hoping for atleast 1 mum to bonsai, these seeds are possibly a NorCal "hogsbreath" strain circa ~1999.

Thanks again reaper!

Awsome man awsome I will build and try one of these guys. Might save me loads of time when starting seeds for my hydro grows. cudos man.

I was wondering what the ph level should be for the water? I built the same set up and was wondering why after 5 days my seeds weren't germinating... when it hit me to check the ph. It was too high... around 7.5

Now it's down to 6, should I bring it a bit lower?

just lowered it to about 5.8

Would there be any downside to using small rockwool cubes instead of rapid rooters?

Quick question, so I built this thing and one of my seeds emerged!

It is about half an inch long, with a root sticking about a half an inch from the bottom of the rapid rooter plug. I would appreciate a bit of help from someone who knows what they are actually doing.

1. What should I do now? I know I still need to keep it within the rapid rooter plug for about 10 more days at least until it is healthy enough for a transplant, however how do I ensure it grows? The way my house is positioned dim lighting is hard... I can put this over my 150 watt HPS or a small 20 watt florescent, however I noticed if I do that the rapid rooter get dry really fast..

At what point should I put the humidity dome on?

Thanks in advance!

http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...ales-seed.html

the attachment is a page from Jorge Cervantes MMJ Bible and his tips to get more girls from seed!

So this worked great ! amazing write up and great pictures but what next?! i feel my plants are now maxed out in this unit do i just move them over to soil now ? or do i build something else? im new to this and really could use any type of help thanks!!

Use it for seeds and clones!!!

...but see about using the tilted-test-tube sproutling method, with rockwool as soon as it's got a tail.

On the other hand, the RapidRooters are only about 25bux for a bag of 50. On the other other other hand, cash is tight... sigh... "If I were a rich man...

GREAT basic design, mon! Very no-muss-no-fuss! :rastasmoke:

fusionsrt4: After you see nice white rooties coming out the sides of your initial rooting medium, then, yes, you /have/ to take 'em outta there, or basically dedicate the thing into DWC (Deep Water Culture, see many threads on this site regarding), and make sure they stay fed.

If there's not enough space to properly grow all yer plantlets from their rootything, either put 'em into individual plant pots/bags of soil/soil-like mix, or a bigger tub, with bigger mesh pots and some hydroton, for example. Again, see many excellent threads/grow logs on this site for ideas.