Poll: Obama More Revered Than Jesus Christ

ROCHESTER, N.Y. â?? Americans named President Obama as their No. 1 hero, followed by Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King, in a new Harris poll.

Others in the top 10, in descending order, were Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Abraham Lincoln, John McCain, John F. Kennedy, Chesley Sullenberger and Mother Teresa.

People were asked whom they admired enough to call their heroes. Those surveyed were not shown a list of people to choose from. The Harris Poll was conducted online among a sample of 2,634 U.S. adults by Harris Interactive.

This question was first asked in a Harris Poll in 2001. In that survey Jesus Christ was the hero mentioned most often, followed by Martin Luther King, Colin Powell, John F. Kennedy and Mother Teresa.

Obama beats out Jesus as America's hero :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: 44: Barack Obama

2,500 does not 300,000,000 make. Obama...MLK...MICHAEL FUCKING JORDAN...are you fucking serious? Jeez, Americans badly need some real heroes to look up to.

We've always got Alex Rodriguez or George Bush, or Oliver North. Place is just loaded with heros.lol

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2,500 does not 300,000,000 make. Obama...MLK...MICHAEL FUCKING JORDAN...are you fucking serious? Jeez, Americans badly need some real heroes to look up to.

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That's why we have Santa Clause!

duh, it amazes me the under educated mass of america didnt this coming from miles away. Then again its no surprise considering its no longer a free media. Obama has been made into a Furher/king/god/deity etc. So he can kick america in the balls 20+times before people start to get pissed. The ones who put him their are the same who put bush their & they are very skilled by now, just look around you!

apparently i cant edit posts but Im surprised america didnt SEE* this coming. See* had been deleted from my post a quarter second before submission.

They are almost all presidents. What the fuck America. See that is the problem. Too much love for your country.

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She's my hero. :D

that poll is 100% B.S.

first of all, everyone polled was definitely a liberal

those are the only people who have yet to realize that in his first 55 days in office, obama has TANKED our country

he's doing it on purpose so that you and me NEED government in our lives. the way it is now, i dont want a dime from any taxpayers, i work hard for what i have and i dont believe i should have to fund a total strangers un-successful lifestyle

obama is no hero. in 4 years he will be the man responsible for completely destroying america as we know it today and starting the United Socialist States of America

Thomas Jefferson, Edgar Allan Poe, Walt Whitman, Mark Twain, Emily Dickinson, Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr., Bob Dylan, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Benjamin Franklin...that'd be my list.

Reagan has to be the most overrated individual ever. Just his aged face and his sharpened smile make me want to take a mallet to him (were he alive). Bush...I'm not going to dignify that inclusion with a response. Whoever said the American people need some real heroes was dead on.

Sweedman...you don't want to pay a dime so poor children can be educated? You think they should be uneducated because of their parents' unsuccessful lifestyle? I see your points about how government seems to be getting more and more invasive, but really, socialistic Finland or Sweden are far more livable than the U.S. It's not about collectivization or the Party or something else reminiscient of the Soviet Union in the '30s...the kneejerk reactions really must be kept to a minimum. In Sweden the people tend to prosper instead of the CEOs, and you don't see many ghettos.

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that poll is 100% B.S.

first of all, everyone polled was definitely a liberal

those are the only people who have yet to realize that in his first 55 days in office, obama has TANKED our country

he's doing it on purpose so that you and me NEED government in our lives. the way it is now, i dont want a dime from any taxpayers, i work hard for what i have and i dont believe i should have to fund a total strangers un-successful lifestyle

obama is no hero. in 4 years he will be the man responsible for completely destroying america as we know it today and starting the United Socialist States of America

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Dude, your logic is flawed in one simple area. You assume the majority of these people ejaculating at the sound of his voice are going to blame him for the collapse of our economy and federal takeover of much of the private sector. They will blame it on Bush, Limbaugh, or any other person they feel had at least a minor roll in decline. We live in a time of playing the victim. It's always someone else's fault. Not there own.

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Not to mention he is constantly on tv pushing his agenda and pumping propaganda out like it's going out of season.

the media will eventually HAVE to turn on obama

they will run of of ways to blame bush for the problems being caused directly by obama. i predict by 2010 the media will HATE obama and so will america

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That's why we have Santa Clause!

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Actually, Santa Claus is from Finland. I know every culture has their own story of Santa Claus, but at some point in time Finland decided that Santa Claus was from there. He has his headquarters, which includes his own post office, in Rovaniemi, Finland, located on the Arctic Circle.

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Dude, your logic is flawed in one simple area. You assume the majority of these people ejaculating at the sound of his voice are going to blame him for the collapse of our economy and federal takeover of much of the private sector. They will blame it on Bush, Limbaugh, or any other person they feel had at least a minor roll in decline. We live in a time of playing the victim. It's always someone else's fault. Not there own.

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blaming everything on the conservative faction can only last so long. brak's administration seems doomed to failure from the very start. he was elected on the promise of a new age in american politics, just like so many "reformers" before him, and that just ain't gonna happen. to win he exploited the weaknesses and corruption of his opponents, but those are the same flaws that he will have to use to grow his power and to forward his agenda. even the deluded masses can't help but see that he is no different than the fools he replaced and his entire campaign was nothing but smoke and mirrors. if our fledgling administration's corruption weren't already so evident, i might even allow myself to feel sorry for the bastard.

the only reason this idiot is sitting in the white house is the guilt and greed of the american people. we have been sitting at the top of the heap for so long that we no longer feel worthy of our position, we have lived with our freedoms for so long we have taken them for granted and the rest of the world has been sucking at our tit for so long that they feel themselves our equal. as the global economy follows our own into the crapper, hopefully we will wake up to the reality that brak's ideals are filled with third world rhetoric and have no place in a country of such wealth and leadership.

the people of this country will not stand for the mediocrity of socialist dogma for long. this is a country founded on the power of the individual, not the whims of the puling masses, and what greatness we have is based on that striving for personal excellence.

OMG...another conservative. Quick, hide the constitution...

Well put. :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure Jesus' poll numbers were better than Obama's, at this point of his saintdom, tho. Seems Obama is taking a dive. :jointsmile:

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OMG...another conservative.

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not a conservative, just a patient anarchist. ;)

socialist tyranny is one of the few things more feared by those seeking freedom than corrupted capitalism. we know perfectly well that man's baser instincts must be curbed, but find the totalitarian measures of brak and his ilk to be a giant step backward for a country that has always prided itself as a haven for individualism.

i just have a huge problem with him intentionally tanking our economy so that people have no objections to a socialist agenda. its like how hitler took over germany, propaganda and brainwashing

turn on CNN and you will see people crying at obama speeches, hell, even some of the reporters cry themselves!

meanwhile, while our stock market is crashing, obama is hosting huge white house parties, dancing the night away like there isnt a worry in the world

i just hope the media and the other half of the nation who were die-hard obama supporters are starting to realize what they did in november08

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i just have a huge problem with him intentionally tanking our economy so that people have no objections to a socialist agenda. its like how hitler took over germany, propaganda and brainwashing

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I'm just happy more people are idolizing a real person, rather than a fictional being.

yeah, fuck that poll..I think he's just as bad as bush, and just as unintelligent..he's going to spend this country into oblivion..it's sad..

it's also sad that you're considered a terrorist if you disagree with the route the government's choosing..

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I'm just happy more people are idolizing a real person, rather than a fictional being.

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we idolize people (real or fictional) for the ideals they represent. while jesus might be said to represent the best of humanity, idolizing a political animal like brak only shows how gullible the public really is and just how far we are willing to sink to satisfy our need to feel superior in our false compassion. the mythology built up around jesus encompasses love and sacrifice, those better instincts that we all possess. the cult of personality surrounding brak has more to do with our desire to find a scapegoat at whose feet we may lay the blame for our own failings.

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it's also sad that you're considered a terrorist if you disagree with the route the government's choosing..

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Yep, and in the 50's, you were a communist. Times don't seem to be a changin', eh

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the cult of personality surrounding brak has more to do with our desire to find a scapegoat at whose feet we may lay the blame for our own failings.

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Like this admins attacks Rush Limbaugh's comments regarding his hope that Obama's policies fail.
Sure sounds familiar...

James Carville's 9-11-01 speech in which he says "I hope Bush doesn't succeed..."

On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: â??I certainly hope he doesnâ??t succeed.â?�â?¦
Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: â??Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!â?�
The press followed Carvilleâ??s orders, never reporting his or Greenbergâ??s desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Partyâ??s top strategists, that Bush should failâ?¦
â??The difference between Carville and his ilk and me is that I care about what happens to my country,â?� Limbaugh told Fox on Wednesday. â??I am not saying what I say for political advantage. I oppose actions, such as Obamaâ??s socialist agenda, that hurt my country.

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go FUUUUUK himself in his own bung hole with wis own fist......... oh
did I say that out loud?

I'm definitely no conservative (I like DelusionsofNormality's description of himself as a patient anarchist), but yes, I do find something unnerving about Obama. It appears he merely strives to replace the corporate sans-habeas-corpus tyranny of the Bush administration with a more secure and benign regime, one in which all dissent is melted away in a system where the government machinates the economy almost wholly. "Socialist" is not a dirty word to me, and I believe in some of its ideals, but certainly not in the manner it seems to currently be executed.

This is probably the biggest cult of personality since Mao Zedong (probably spelled wrong), and it's dangerous to worship any individual to that degree, even if they're some sort of artist or poet (individuals with transcendental abilities). For a politician to even be considered is ludicrous.

To whoever said everybody polled was a liberal, how do you explain the presence of Bush and Reagan in the top ten?

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Like this admins attacks Rush Limbaugh's comments regarding his hope that Obama's policies fail.
Sure sounds familiar...

James Carville's 9-11-01 speech in which he says "I hope Bush doesn't succeed..."

On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: â??I certainly hope he doesnâ??t succeed.â?�â?¦
Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: â??Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!â?�
The press followed Carvilleâ??s orders, never reporting his or Greenbergâ??s desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Partyâ??s top strategists, that Bush should failâ?¦
â??The difference between Carville and his ilk and me is that I care about what happens to my country,â?� Limbaugh told Fox on Wednesday. â??I am not saying what I say for political advantage. I oppose actions, such as Obamaâ??s socialist agenda, that hurt my country.

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When a semi-literate philistine of a buffoon with no integrity or innovative ideas is elected, the natural response is a desire for them to fail. I don't understand what you're criticizing...you want Obama to fail. It appears you'd like nothing better than for his socialist agenda to plunge the country into turmoil, because if he succeeded, you might be at a loss for words. A multi-trillion dollar war and a downsizing of civil rights could be said to hurt your country.

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When a semi-literate philistine of a buffoon with no integrity or innovative ideas is elected, the natural response is a desire for them to fail. I don't understand what you're criticizing...you want Obama to fail. It appears you'd like nothing better than for his socialist agenda to plunge the country into turmoil, because if he succeeded, you might be at a loss for words. A multi-trillion dollar war and a downsizing of civil rights could be said to hurt your country.

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If his socialist agenda succeeded, it would plunge the country into turmoil. That was the point!!!
Now that we have a semi-literate philistine of a buffoon with no integrity or innovative ideas we want his ideas to fail.

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When a semi-literate philistine of a buffoon with no integrity or innovative ideas is elected, the natural response is a desire for them to fail. I don't understand what you're criticizing...you want Obama to fail.

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No...I want any and all socialist administrations' policies to fall like the twin towers. Everybody (liberals) jumps on the "blame Bush" bandwagon, yet have dismissed the back story to Obama's ideologies as irrelevant. (well...nobody except for a few of us here that looked beyond the hype of media indoctrination, and called a spade a spade during the run-up to the primaries) Everyone liberal was sooo concerned that Bush and his anti-terror policies were an infringement on their civil rights and the constitution, yet from the actions the Osama administration is taking, they are attacking freedom of speech, gun rights, private property laws, contract laws, the tax structures, and now charitable contributions...? I say we string the bastard up like his namesake, Saddam Hussein.
This is only his second month, and this liberal fuckwad has proven he is not interested in protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States, but replacing it with his own sub-prime socialist doctrine.

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It appears you'd like nothing better than for his socialist agenda to plunge the country into turmoil, because if he succeeded, you might be at a loss for words. A multi-trillion dollar war and a downsizing of civil rights could be said to hurt your country.

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Again you're wrong, and you assume too much. (Which is ok...I expect nothing more, from our friends north of the border) I want him to fail because he desires to change and delete civil liberties that he has no authority to change/delete. Having gone through the education system before the socialist educational requirements came about...my being at a loss for words is highly unlikely.

So how did that Iraq thing work-out? Were we defeated...? Were we humiliated...? Are the Iraqi's hiding in their basements, for fear of the insurgents and terrorists...? How about their infrastructure...? No improvements there? How about the free and open elections...?
Being as how you are in another country, I could really give a shit about your rights nor your feelings. You've got a government...(albeit insignificant) Why aren't you fighting for your Canadian rights?

Patient anarchist...? Isn't that the same thing as a lazy liberal fascist?

I am with you. long live the constitution. :stoned::stoned:

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Patient anarchist...? Isn't that the same thing as a lazy liberal fascist?

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hey, "patient anarchist" is my line and i'm anything but a lazy liberal fascist. i may be a liberal in the classical sense, but my aims aren't even close to the welfare state espoused by the liberal establishment and its adherents. my anarchist ideals are to be reached through the minarchism our founders laid out when the constitution was penned and not wrung out of the citizens through threat of force, as brak and his ilk would have us believe is the proper path. my patience is born of the realization that this society is not quite ready to handle the complete freedom of anarchism, but i see the socialistic restrictions we find growing in this country as an unnecessary step backward from the liberties this country was founded to afford us. anarchism has always been about power in the hands of the people themselves, not the nanny state nonsense so loved by those too lazy to accept responsibility for their own destiny.

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hey, "patient anarchist" is my line

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What's the matter...afraid I'd gotten the credits wrong? If you'll notice, the line wasn't included in the other members quote, but added as a humorous afterthought upon reflection of the thread. Nothing else you've contributed impressed me enough to actually quote. :thumbsup:

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and i'm anything but a lazy liberal fascist. i may be a liberal in the classical sense, but my aims aren't even close to the welfare state espoused by the liberal establishment and its adherents. my anarchist ideals are to be reached through the minarchism our founders laid out when the constitution was penned and not wrung out of the citizens through threat of force, as brak and his ilk would have us believe is the proper path. my patience is born of the realization that this society is not quite ready to handle the complete freedom of anarchism, but i see the socialistic restrictions we find growing in this country as an unnecessary step backward from the liberties this country was founded to afford us. anarchism has always been about power in the hands of the people themselves, not the nanny state nonsense so loved by those too lazy to accept responsibility for their own destiny.

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Ah...my mistake. How's lazy liberal fascist suit ya then...? Because if you ain't doing shit now...ya ain't doing shit. What are you going to do...talk society to death? Talk is cheap, as are the myriad of liberal ideals.
There's an ideology for every cause, but doubtful your cause is anything beyond the 'norm' of bending the rule of law, and the laws of the land, to suit your own selfish/distorted sense of right and wrong, and hoping that your posts are insightful. But they're not.

It's not that the society isn't ready for anarchism...it's that we reject it. Big difference, and frankly I see nobody ready to further your cause, aside from obscure websites touting hammer and sickles, bloody stars of David, and swastica's. But hey...as long as you are happy with your discontent and childish lack of thinking your scenarios through to the logical conclusions...who am I to judge the likes of you? Admittedly, one of the unfortunate side-effects of a free and open society that just can't be remedied...is that you can't fix stupid.

However, and I seriously mean this....I pray that you remain happy in your discontent. Your attitude makes some of us feel good about our own morals and values. For that I thank you. :jointsmile:

But doesn't it suck being such a drain on your own psyche?

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Ah...my mistake. How's lazy liberal fascist suit ya then...? Because if you ain't doing shit now...ya ain't doing shit. What are you going to do...talk society to death? Talk is cheap, as are the myriad of liberal ideals.
There's an ideology for every cause, but doubtful your cause is anything beyond the 'norm' of bending the rule of law, and the laws of the land, to suit your own selfish/distorted sense of right and wrong, and hoping that your posts are insightful. But they're not.

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i wasn't really looking for any sort of credit with my friendly little jest, i merely thought you had realized by now that the delusional one is far from being a follower of either the liberal establishment or their quest for a totalitarian paradise (i shy away from the term fascist, as it seems to mean so many different things to so many different people). obviously, you didn't get the memo. as for being lazy, i'd have thought anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together would realize that accepting responsibility for all of one's actions and avoiding the welfare pitfalls of today's socialistically inclined society takes far more effort than lazily going along with the powers that be and accepting their propaganda at face value.

little insight is needed to see that the path we are on leads only to the mediocrity of the herd. i suppose that a lifetime spent meandering along with that herd might dull one's senses, allowing you to actually believe that the common man is incapable of acting in an ethical manner without the hand of government to show him the way. it is all too obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence that it is the rule of law that has become selfish and distorted by the ideology of victimhood that is so readily embraced by the greedy masses, hungry for new scapegoats to blame for their own lack of independence.

what am i doing? i am living my life. living ethically and by the rules i have set for myself, without the guiding hand of parental government hovering over my every action. giving more than is taken. asking nothing from the bureaucracy i have no faith in, but willing to render unto caesar what is his as long as it keeps the bastard off my back. an independent state of one, striving for excellence in a world intent on mediocrity. getting a little too high and wasting my breath on the uninterested in useless internet forum debates. what more can be expected of a man?
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It's not that the society isn't ready for anarchism...it's that we reject it. Big difference, and frankly I see nobody ready to further your cause, aside from obscure websites touting hammer and sickles, bloody stars of David, and swastikas. But hey...as long as you are happy with your discontent and childish lack of thinking your scenarios through to the logical conclusions...who am I to judge the likes of you? Admittedly, one of the unfortunate side-effects of a free and open society that just can't be remedied...is that you can't fix stupid.
However, and I seriously mean this....I pray that you remain happy in your discontent. Your attitude makes some of us feel good about our own morals and values. For that I thank you.

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i can't help but wonder what it is about the term anarchism that strikes such fear into most folks. they attempt to laugh it off or to equate it with impotent extremist groups, but they fear the idea none the less. could it be that they believe themselves too lazy and stupid to take hold of their own destiny and accept personal responsibility for the actions of themselves and those around them? is the idea of self-determination so shocking that generations of self-imposed slavery make it seem an impossibility?

government is not society, it is a tool of society. the purpose of government is nothing more than to relieve the masses a few responsibilities, it is merely a way of avoiding some of the tedious and distasteful chores of survival. that tool has taken on a life of its own, attempting to determine the path we must all take and force those unwilling to follow into line. we have allowed ourselves to become far too dependent on this crutch and it is time we start thinking about taking up once again those duties we have shrugged off onto the faceless bureaucracy of our own creation.

i'm sure you are quite proud of your morality, handed to you by generations of ignorant sheep and enforced by an army of faceless bureaucrats. it keeps you from having to think or feel or dream of what comes next for mankind. you might try to remember that without those who are dissatisfied with the status quo we would still be living in squalor and fear, subject to the whims of the powerful and the limits of our own ignorance. my discontent comes from simple impatience, that the masses are so unwilling to take a step away from the comfort of mediocrity and embrace the possibility of their own excellence. i force myself to be patient and realize that such childish ways are not so easily set aside.

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what am i doing? i am living my life. living ethically and by the rules i have set for myself, without the guiding hand of parental government hovering over my every action. giving more than is taken. asking nothing from the bureaucracy i have no faith in, but willing to render unto caesar what is his as long as it keeps the bastard off my back. an independent state of one, striving for excellence in a world intent on mediocrity. getting a little too high and wasting my breath on the uninterested in useless internet forum debates. what more can be expected of a man?

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...ooh...I like that part....:thumbsup:

Then americans wonder why this country is so F**ked up they are putting their trust in some man that is no better then you and me over Jesus now thats F**ked up, but who am i to judge people are so naive these days all it takes is a very good speaker to tell them something they want to hear and they follow like a mindless zombie.

What the hell happen to this country for real man every time i turn on the tv i see nothin but negative sh*t its like people lost their will to think and live on their own and now they rely on false promises and this corrupt gov to tell them when to eat sh*t and sleep so to speak.