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Is there anything to be worried about being a member on this site and posting pictures about our grow and what not. Could the police demand the web masters give up the identity of this sites members and give out ip addresses and trace it back to our homes.
Peace
as a computer tech, I can tell you that, yes, those things CAN definitely be done ... whether or not, to 'worry' about it, is a personal choice ... gotta go with your heart :jointsmile:
and if your growing to make money your gonna get busted but if its just for personnal use you shouldnt worry ! just dont be stupid :thumbsup:
Nothing has happened to the hundreds of growers on here so I think you will be okay:D
Don't paint such a wide stroke with your brush Young Bob Ross.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeitgeist
I could name a couple of members that got :abduct: and haven't logged on since.
your statement should be worded as: " as far as I know, nothing has happened to the yada, yada, yada " ... I should probably disappear, myself, due to a lot of exposure, as of late ... when I leave my present location, I will have to pass thru U.S. Customs, complete with their dogs ... hmmmm, decisions, decisions :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zeitgeist
WOW!! with a statement like that at least my inquiring mind is first gonna ask....With 17 posts, you know a few members that have been ganked by "Johnny"??? From being on this site? Huh.....They must be prior friends of yours for you to know this if they have not logged on since. I'm having trouble believing any of this only because it makes no sense. Now Detroitfish makes sense, posting a big money making operation surely may get some LEO eyes but still, how else could only you be privy to that info? Now, if these members that you "know" were just like myself, that keeps a couple plants at a friends house for personal medicine, and those people got busted from being on this site, then people like me are sure gonna want to know how you got this info and how they got tagged? News article, blog....what, It'd be cool If you can just tell us that instead of names??Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLNotSick
ImageReaper, your posts always make me wonder what exactally your involved in :cool:
Stay safe man
:D nothing exotic, bro ... I'm more like a 'Forrest Gump' type of guy, always finding myself in a weird place, at a weird time :wtf4:
Just don't get shot in the buttocks. haha:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
Yer gonna need a new username, bud. Peace out homie.
ohhh, lil darlin, I love it when ya play rough :computerlove1:
You don't get banned for being "real", you get banned for not adhering to the rules...and common sense for that matter. The point was, we don't want names, or statements like that. I don't believe you can get busted from being on this site. Maybe from doing something stupid in addition to being here. If we have to worry with "Johnny" from expressing free speach and telling "stories" alone, then we all have a serious problem. Since we are not being picked off one by one for "story time" then that should answer the original question of this post. Don't be stupid and you'll be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by v*********r
Moderator note: Offensive banned screen name removed from quote as well as most of the quote since original post was deleted. Cannakeeper, I'm sorry but either I was going to have to delete your post too or edit out the quote and screen name but I wanted this former member to see your message.
If the cops spend too much time here, they are wasting tax payer dollars big time. My postings are an effort to be as transparent as possible, yet remaining as private as possible. I have nothing I should fear since what I'm attempting to do is legal with my authorization and there are people in need. So, if the big dogs feel frisky, my door is always open. No need for crashers!!!! :thumbsup::jointsmile:
Id say no one has anything to worry about, Inless your sitting here bragging about a massive commercial grow op, Then your totally okay.
If that was the case and they started tracking every one, Pc by pc, Ip to ip. Then they might as well just install cams in every ones house to watch there every move.
This is how I think about it, Most of the d.e.a raids are them just finding a massive grow op, Or a bunch of ditch weed. It makes up for almost all there seizes. Besides, The Cia is so against drugs with the federal goverment, Theyv been bringing it in to the united stated for well over 20 years.
So if there going to track me down, Because I grow like one plant.
Then honestly come and get me, " All for what "?
Bealiving that its not illegal to smoke a harmless plant.
That up untill regans staggering lieing faultsly justified ass, Got on telivision and said.. " Americas Public Enemy Number One, Is the war on drugs".
Well thats my two cents.
Peace, Pot, Micro Dot.
You rang?? lol :hippy:Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
What we're starting to see more of these days are private contractors working for the feds who participate in intelligence gathering.
They participate in front sites as well as legit sites in order to gather incriminating information against individuals, groups, and organizations. When they have collected what they believe to be actionable evidence of criminal activity they forward the information up the chain which is then oftentimes disseminated to the appropriate agency for action. (Department of Homeland Security hard at work).
Simply stated, be careful as to what you do and say on the internet. On the other hand, don't run off all paranoid either.
Lead
I'd love to read more about this, can you post a link so I can learn more?
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Originally Posted by cannakeeper
I'm covering some pretty broad areas in that post. Did you have something more specific in mind?
The current role of private contracting in the criminal justice system?
It sounds like He/She just admitted to being a fed.
I didn't think feds, Or government agents "Agencies" Were allowed on these forums.
Id love to see how long He/She is going to stay around for.
I'm so happy I have friends in both high and low places!!!! Spy all they want, just Bush rat bastard remnants, and their days are coming to an end shortly!! :thumbsup::jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by leadmagnet
Broad area???? Did I miss some other area you were covering? I guess I missed the other broad aspects aside from "The current role of private contracting in the criminal justice system" that you were covering in that post. Never mind dude, it seems to me that you're just talking out the side of your neck anyway. From now on, why don't you list links whenever you chime in on a posts to aleviate any further nonsense like the last few i've seen from you. BTW, just curious why you were banned?Quote:
Originally Posted by leadmagnet
If you read a Dec. 08 post by him, he admits to being a former cop and probation officer....why doesn't he go bother a hard drug forum instead lol?? Peace and love :hippy:Quote:
Originally Posted by spiked666killer
Didn't see a Dec 8 post. I did do a google though and ummmm....Dude,(magnet) you are the one that should be more carefull what you do and say on the internet...Mate. For a cat that appears to be VERY computer savy, I would think you would follow your own advice. Now 4204life has some good advice.
did you hear about the UK guy who got busted because he showed his grow on youtube.
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A man in England is arrested after police see footage of his grow-op on the Internet
A cannabis grower let police in on his secret hobby after posting home videos of the crop on YouTube, it has emerged.
The 25-year-old was arrested after officers saw footage on the website documenting the stages of growth at his home in Bridgwater, Somerset.
The man made his arrest even easier after using his real name as his "internet handle".
Police searched the house and seized one large cannabis plant and associated hydroponics equipment used to maximise heat and light conditions.
PC Adrian Peck, of Avon and Somerset police, said: "The male had been videoing the growth of the plant over a number of months and uploading his horticultural endeavours onto the site to document it - providing us with fairly conclusive evidence.
"The cultivation of cannabis is illegal. If you break the law and are foolish enough to then advertise your criminal activities on the internet, it makes it very easy for the Police to catch you."
Police said the cannabis produced by the single plant could have had a potential street value of up to £500; both the plant and growing equipment will be destroyed.
The man admitted the offence of cultivating cannabis, now a Class B drug, and received an official police warning.
The force said it was not its policy to release the names of people who are warned and confirmed that the videos have been removed from the site.
- Article from The Press Association on February 21, 2009.
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Originally Posted by cannakeeper
For Christ's sake man, put forth a little effort.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/business/15shelf.html
There is a TON of legitimate material out there on the topic.
The first one I ever actually had anything to do with was Western States Intelligence Network back in the early eighties. Man were they a joke. The industry had proliferated big time since then though. And some have gotten A LOT more savvy.
Dude, I don't know what you're talking about. The google search doesn't show anything close to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by cannakeeper
Search zooneedles.
Buddy, If you had bothered to read the whole thread, you may have seen that another member appeared to side step their ban to seemingly attempt to put a panic in members by starting a fire with rediculous and unsubstantiated bullshit. Many other seasoned and intelligent members made an effort to bring some comfort to this, since all but the stupid should have no worries. Who is to say what "story" is true, a past endevour or legal where one resides.Quote:
Originally Posted by leadmagnet
Then you chime in, and the way you gave the info in relation to "Intell gathering contractors", it gave off the same smell. By simply posting the link you recited that from like I kindly asked, you may have given the impression you only meant to say "hey, I found this info to show why to be really careful". Instead, you evade the question. Clearly there was no broad area in your post, there are no grade school kids here requiring a lesson from you on the definition of "Intel Gathering"...thus making it a singular topic. You keeping up bro?
The next point I tried to make to you was, Everyone knows how to "point and click" without any "EFFORT" smart ass! And, "If" you did post here at Canncom that you had been a LEO in any capacity and then post this info in the way you did...not smart. You failed to respond to that as well. Are you with me yet? Clearly NO since your next move is to explain how "The first one you actually had something to do with"!!!! Dude..enough!! WTF!
Finally to CANNCOM members and prospective members, No one should worry with expressing their ammendment rights here or anywhere for that matter, and as a result of this members post, I will be ignoring any further correspondence from them for the duration of my stay here at this wonderful site that I owe a debt of gratitude. Canna
I'd be more worried about posting on other marijuana forums than canna.com. At least we ain't a bunch of stoners trying to grow pot in our parent's home. We got some legit reasons.
Dude, maybe you're sniffing too hard. I willingly admit what I do for a living and my past experience in law enforcement. I think it helps our cause. And heck yeah I read the whole thread. Chill out. Why so hostile? Frankly, I still maintain that my response was appropriate and on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by cannakeeper
As far as my having asked you as to what you were specifically requesting from me, hell, I wasnâ??t sure if you were referring to specific techniques with which LEO gathers intelligence, how that info is channeled through the involved agencies and companies, specifically which sites or segment of the population were more likely to be subjected to such data collection, or whether you were requesting sources which document that the feds actually utilized private sector sources for intelligence gathering.
Several of your posts in this thread come across as rather hostile, my friend (stated in my best John McCain imitation), even before my contribution. Relax, dude. We arenâ??t your enemies. Like you, weâ??re just folks who like to chat it up and spread the good word about our sacred herb.
The bottom line is, be careful what you say on ANY internet forum. On the other hand, no need to pull yer panties up around your waist and run down the block screamin fer mum.
Peace.
Lead
Okay here it goes, in a nutshell...
Will they track you down based on your IP to determine that you've been growing?
Not likely
If you are busted for other reasons can they use this forum as evidence of your involvement?
Yes
The fact of the matter this site is dedicated to the medical user. Now not all members are in fact medical users, however, by in large the members of this site are very discrete and seeing as that is the case, i don't believe you have much to worry about.
I agree. Plus there are some of us who just choose not to disclose our medical condition. Those with half a brain should know to make stuff up along the way....Do I really look like Gump? No Am I really the age that my page says? No. Plus a few other posts that aren't completely true.:thumbsup: That way I feel like I'm being somewhat cautious while still enjoying all that the forums have to offer. Just be smart people and lets all get along...remember we only have a 1 way ticket in this whole Life thing:):hippy::jointsmile:
I use opera 3.0 as my web browser it uses a proxy server so no one sees your IP.its better than nothing.;)
good lord i have tried to say this many many times you can not be arrested for posting a photo of a pot plant i repeat CANNOT be arrested. at least in the U.S. they can and will track your activities before an arrest is made wich means they will supeona your bank accounts, credit card info and internet activity to show that you are indeed a grower then the D.A. will use that evidence to go before a judge and get an arrest and a search warrant. just keep your activities low key and for gods sake remember the 5 most important rules:Quote:
Okay here it goes, in a nutshell...
Will they track you down based on your IP to determine that you've been growing?
Not likely
If you are busted for other reasons can they use this forum as evidence of your involvement?
Yes
The fact of the matter this site is dedicated to the medical user. Now not all members are in fact medical users, however, by in large the members of this site are very discrete and seeing as that is the case, i don't believe you have much to worry about.
1. dont tell any one
2. dont use creit cards
3. dont TELL any one
4. DONT TELL anyone
5. DONT TELL ANY ONE
If that was the case and they started tracking every one, Pc by pc, Ip to ip. Then they might as well just install cams in every ones house to watch there every move.
I read a book about that once, lets see back in "1984" by George
I doubt you would be targeted unless you are operating a major grow op and bragging about it here. If you get arrested however, things you post here could be used in court if they search your computer.
Yeah there's tons of vids on You Tube that could get people busted. Showing too much of the room, house etc. I even saw one with this kid's full face and he's like "these are my weed plants". Just plain stupid.
Anyone who fears being arrested shouldn't be posting period. I do it because I believe in what I say, some tongue in cheek, some direct and to the point regardless of how blunt it may be. Its time to be blunt with those who persecute. I have no problems with LEOs going after truely bad guys. But going after marijuana users is nothing but persecution, and I would imagine those that enjoy arresting marijuana users or take their pay check for doing so, support torture too. :D
thats why i air on the cautious side almost always.
but to each their own.
Im not technologically advanced so i just assume a man can travel at light speed and look over my shoulder and watch as i post.
:jointsmile:
The information i see on this site to me gives me good reason to believe that you have nothing to worry about. But the way i look at it is if the damn cops want to bust me for talking about medicine instead of busting predators of our children online then our system is really fucked up. From what i see the mods here make sure no illegal shit is going on in here and they need to. I speak from experiance and the way i really feel and that is no crime. All the info in here is available at 100's of web sites and books and so forth. If i was worried i wouldnt come here period. You can come in here without your isp showing up if your really worried and or paranoid and as an ex hacker there are many ways to cover your tracks if you wish to. I gave up hacking 6 years ago because it is illegal and trust me it can cost you a ton of money getting out of trouble. As long as this site does not condone illegal activity then we all have nothing to worry about. I am new in here but i see lots of people being banned for trashing others and that is 1 reason i have chose to visit here. Lots of good info here and you can never know everything. As an old timer i am sure i will learn some good tips from the younger generation on this site. I love reading about cloneing,breeding,growing. You can never know enough. Just keep token!!!!!!! :thumbsup:
i dont worry about getting busted, it is not illegal to talk about something that doesnt hurt or threaten anyone elses safety. we discuss methods of consumption, likes & dislikes, even prices, all of the information is meant to be informative or entertaining
people who post pictures of ILLEGAL grow ops deserve to get busted, same with people trying to score buds online or sell them illegally.
i dont come on here to find dealers, most of us dont