Arrrgggggh! I cant handle it anymore!!

As polite as I try to be, I can't stand any more of Torog's posts.. I mean, I try to look at it and think "well, he's just got an opinion which differs to mine" but NO! He's racist (hates Muslims, thinks they are all planning to take over the world and have some secret 'agenda'), homophobic (thinks all homosexuals have a 'gay agenda' and are secretly 'corrupting' the youth of America for their own gain), obviously enjoys voilence (seems to think every war in the history of history that involved America was for a just cause, and thinks that spending money on defence and the armed forces is more important than spending money on public services, health systems, etc), and extremely ignorant (Thinks GW Bush is a good president, thinks Britain is about to become a 'Muslim state' and that all British people are still up the royal family's ass). Throw in the way he calls everybody a 'liberal' or a 'youngun' when they disagree, and then calls them something else when they explain that they just have a different opinion, and I start to tear my hair out. It scares me that there are people like this in the world :(

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

As polite as I try to be, I can't stand any more of Torog's posts.. I mean, I try to look at it and think "well, he's just got an opinion which differs to mine" but NO! He's racist (hates Muslims, thinks they are all planning to take over the world and have some secret 'agenda'), homophobic (thinks all homosexuals have a 'gay agenda' and are secretly 'corrupting' the youth of America for their own gain), obviously enjoys voilence (seems to think every war in the history of history that involved America was for a just cause, and thinks that spending money on defence and the armed forces is more important than spending money on public services, health systems, etc), and extremely ignorant (Thinks GW Bush is a good president, thinks Britain is about to become a 'Muslim state' and that all British people are still up the royal family's ass). Throw in the way he calls everybody a 'liberal' or a 'youngun' when they disagree, and then calls them something else when they explain that they just have a different opinion, and I start to tear my hair out. It scares me that there are people like this in the world :(

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Howdy GhostToker,

You know what your problem is ? You ain't never met a real man before,that stands up for what he believes,is willing to give his life,so that others can be free and pisses on political correctness and doesn't make excuses for his or anyone else's behaviour or choices. If I'm wrong-I'll say that I'm wrong and try not to make the same mistake twice..I'm only human..and therefore,imperfect and a sinner.

Have a good one....

im not interferrin but the other day ghost you made a thread sayin ppl should be allowed to say what ever they want.

thats all torog does im sure he dnt mean to offend people u just gta thinjk about it theresabout 6 billion ppl inthe world not every1 thinks the same.

if every1 did the world would be boring.

:-)

Maybe Torog says what some people think but dont say???

my lips are sealed time for me to move on and spark up

all da best.

Yeah I respect Torog cause he's a vet, like my old man. He made a couple dumb comments, who cares, I make dumb comments every day.

With all respect Trog I dont agree with some stuff you believe in. I happen to be a Muslim americain and the last time i checked I dont wanna take over the world or commit some kind of act of terriorism. I happen to be a very peaceful lady! Someone that blows themself up and others is not a muslim btw.

hes just obviously very ignorant. and sadly enough still stands behind all the bullshit the military fed him. its sad. he does not have a lot of facts straight.

yeah i dont hold any type affection for torog, but at least it keeps the politics and spirituality boards interesting, having other points of view is always good for dialoge.

i mean heres what it would look like without people like him-
me-gay marriage is good
person1-yup
person2- way to go
person3-of course
^you see not really that interesting

Ghost just do what i do and if you dont want to read someones thread or post then dont.Just bypass it mate then you dont have to get annoyed at others opinions.Thats what i do anyways then get bitched at for not reading it properley.Its because i actually only read what i want to.If its crap within the first few sentences then just go no further.

(hey, this is my first post)
I spent the past 2 years in the military surrounded by people just like that. In fact, it took people like that and all the bull they cram into our young impressionable heads in the military to really open my eyes to what was going on. It's weird now that I'm going to school, instead of having to argue after I voice my opinion people just agree with me... in a strange way it's kind of disappointing.

Its people like Torg who have fought for the freedom I have today...Thanks.

Welcome DharmaBum! Everyone is different and that fact that we notics flaws in others comments may prevent us from doing it ourselves. Just bcos we dont like someones opinions and beliefs doesnt mean we can make judgement bcos im sure there have been a lot of situations in Torogs life that has made him the way he is today. Smoke on peopl!

Torog is just (I think anyway) a die-hard American who's all out for his country. There is NOT anything wrong with that. As for as racism and those other things go, hes a grown-man he can believe in whatever he wants. Now personnally I'm fuck bush, peace and love no war kind of guy. I'm just into music and expansion of the mind. But not everyone is like that. It takes all kinds to make a world. The best thing is to not bitch and complain.
And ghost I'm not on anyones side so don't get man, I think we have alot of the same 'beleif and value system' I'm just stating my opinion. Just because you, or me, or we for that matter don't beleive in the things he does, does'nt mean hes wrong. Shit I might be wrong about half the things I beleive in, anyway. I've said my two-cents.

Some Muslims do want to destroy us, most do not, but to deny that there are many Muslims that are extreme is foolish. Gay people do have an agenda --they want equality and acceptance don't we all? As far as war goes no reasonable person wants war and if you know anything about history only the countries that are perceived to be weak are attacked. We need to be strong as a people, as a society and as a nation.

i respect torog 100% and agree with him on alot of issues...he is a good, partiotic, christian man

im on torogs side in this. and no not everyone in texas is a rasist...i happen to be in texas, and happen to be blakk. so yeah, mabey im rasist towards white people lol jk. but newayz, im on his side in this, cause GWBush is a good president. not the best we ever had, but better then john kerry. i dint read every post in this, but bout muslims tryin to take over the world, true. stuff bout britain, true. and that stuff bout those disgusting people...true.

GO TOROG GO

i agree with ya ghost..down with the madnesss :D

LOL. im on torogs side in this. and no not everyone in texas is a rasist...i happen to be in texas, and happen to be blakk. so yeah, mabey im rasist towards white people lol jk. but newayz, im on his side in this, cause GWBush is a good president. not the best we ever had, but better then john kerry. i dint read every post in this, but bout muslims tryin to take over the world, true. stuff bout britain, true. and that stuff bout those disgusting people...true.

git er done Torog!

ghostoker, if you can`t take it, don`t dish it out! peace!

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Originally Posted by slipnslide087

hes just obviously very ignorant. and sadly enough still stands behind all the bullshit the military fed him. its sad. he does not have a lot of facts straight.

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well i bet his IQ would in fact make yours look like a shoesize

i dont agree with torog on many issues, matter of fact i have had many of lil words with him over the years on marihemp and guess what
we became friends in spite of our different views on polotics religion ect,
just goes to show ya that he is mouthy and loud,(louder on beer) and will tell ya what he thinks entirely and sometimes with overkill (thats cool with me)
in fact,ive showed him with proof i have a Brotherly love for such people who take such a stand for what they think is right,hope he enjoyed it
NOT saying he is RIGHT just i respect those that respect themsevles and he does,he knows who he is and what he is and where he is in his life

not like some punk ass kids who think they know the world when in fact they know only thier neighborhoods and whats on tv

ghost is lacking in some areas i wont bother with cuase he wouldn't/couldn't understand ,he has never been shot at,never been beat up i assume,never had a gay man wink at him,never had a reason to think we all cant just get along in some utopia,

btw i hate bush and he knows this and he still considers me a friend becuase he knows WE ALL HAVE A OPINION and most are different

last time i was in church was for a wedding,
last time i prayed was a kid
he knows this and dont give a flying fuck,he still would welcome me to dinner

as far as muslims go. i dont know any or seen any,that i know of ,dont really care so long as they aint burning my flag saying death to me and mine ,i care less if they move next door,hell i wouldnt mind at all in fact would try welcome them here,would i have doubts,Hell yes,id wonder if they terrorist.
hell i wonder if my neighbors now are so wtf (they all white hillbillies too)

can call me homophobe or whatever cuase the sight of two men kissing would make me puking sick,(no i dont want to bash them,just ignore em)
'yaw youngins'
needs to know without people like him,you would have no one to blaim for all your lil problems with others ways of thinking
cuase he is right there in ya face yapping his views
peace
PS.
go toke something

Wow... I'm jumping into the conversation kind of late but oh well. Here are my 2 cents on the topic. When I first entered cannabis.com i read his posts and didn't really have a problem. The more i read, however, makes it quite clear. Torog is a god damn redneck christian hick that tries forcing his political and religious views on everyone. In my opinion he makes a bad name for Texans. I can't stand the fact that all his posts are posts of ignorance and are mostly biased (since the government fed him so much bs). I wouldn't have a problem with him if he stuck strictly to the politics boards, but other than that i'd rather not have him in on a conversation... Saying a muslim is planning to kill someone is like saying all german people are still nazis. (I come from german descent) and i can assure you damn well that we don't have any problems with jewish people.... I think Torog needs to go to the politics boards and post there, because i'm sick of listening to all of his bullshit government propaganda.


(I'm really stoned right now, so i hope that makes sense)

well i`m jumping in here also. here is my 2 fucking cents! i`m a goddamn redneck! i`m from n.c. i`m from german descent. what the fuck does that matter?

i`m telling all you folks, freedom of speech is what ghostoker is all about!

why can`t you goddamn free speech advocates accept Torogs free speech whether you like it or not?

it sounds like all you peace & love mofo`s want to change the world!

well why don`t you get off your ass and get the ball rolling.

resinate started some propaganda, why don`t you all help him?

fuck this shit! git er done!

peace!

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Originally Posted by Darkneon420

With all respect Trog I dont agree with some stuff you believe in. I happen to be a Muslim americain and the last time i checked I dont wanna take over the world or commit some kind of act of terriorism. I happen to be a very peaceful lady! Someone that blows themself up and others is not a muslim btw.

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Howdy Darkneon420,

I realize,that there are many muslims,who do want to live peacefully,and I'm certain that you're one of em. I do git carried away with my generalizaions,characterizations and stereotypifications,from time to time,of muslims and their intentions towards the western world,and I apologize--if I have offended you. We need more muslims like you,so that folks won't keep on thinking that all muslims are dangerous. If you believe in America,the Bill of Rights and the Constitution..then I would be more than willing..to defend you,my fellow American..with my life.

Have a good one ...:)

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Darkneon420,

I realize,that there are many muslims,who do want to live peacefully,and I'm certain that you're one of em. I do git carried away with my generalizaions,characterizations and stereotypifications,from time to time,of muslims and their intentions towards the western world,and I apologize--if I have offended you. We need more muslims like you,so that folks won't keep on thinking that all muslims are dangerous. If you believe in America,the Bill of Rights and the Constitution..then I would be more than willing..to defend you,my fellow American..with my life.

Have a good one ...:)

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Yeah yeah, now thats a lot better. Dont apologize man, its quite alright. Yeah I believe in America, and the bill of rights, I might not agree with some stuff but here that isent bushes problem.

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan

well i bet his IQ would in fact make yours look like a shoesize

i dont agree with torog on many issues, matter of fact i have had many of lil words with him over the years on marihemp and guess what
we became friends in spite of our different views on polotics religion ect,
just goes to show ya that he is mouthy and loud,(louder on beer) and will tell ya what he thinks entirely and sometimes with overkill (thats cool with me)
in fact,ive showed him with proof i have a Brotherly love for such people who take such a stand for what they think is right,hope he enjoyed it
NOT saying he is RIGHT just i respect those that respect themsevles and he does,he knows who he is and what he is and where he is in his life

not like some punk ass kids who think they know the world when in fact they know only thier neighborhoods and whats on tv

ghost is lacking in some areas i wont bother with cuase he wouldn't/couldn't understand ,he has never been shot at,never been beat up i assume,never had a gay man wink at him,never had a reason to think we all cant just get along in some utopia,

btw i hate bush and he knows this and he still considers me a friend becuase he knows WE ALL HAVE A OPINION and most are different

last time i was in church was for a wedding,
last time i prayed was a kid
he knows this and dont give a flying f*ck,he still would welcome me to dinner

as far as muslims go. i dont know any or seen any,that i know of ,dont really care so long as they aint burning my flag saying death to me and mine ,i care less if they move next door,hell i wouldnt mind at all in fact would try welcome them here,would i have doubts,Hell yes,id wonder if they terrorist.
hell i wonder if my neighbors now are so wtf (they all white hillbillies too)

can call me homophobe or whatever cuase the sight of two men kissing would make me puking sick,(no i dont want to bash them,just ignore em)
'yaw youngins'
needs to know without people like him,you would have no one to blaim for all your lil problems with others ways of thinking
cuase he is right there in ya face yapping his views
peace
PS.
go toke something

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Howdy NoWhereMan,

Thanx for your kind words,man. :)

Yup..you helped me to create some wonderful memories--which I enjoyed immensely !! :D Thanx Brother !

Yeah...lol...we've had a few go-arounds..huh ? lol In the end,it all boils down to the fact--that we are all entitled to our opinions and beliefs,and we don't have to be enemies..just because we differ in opinions and beliefs..but we can dang sure talk up a storm..trying to git it all sorted out...lol.

My girlfriend,doesn't believe that Jesus has come down to Earth yet..but I've been with her,for over 9 years..you'd think,that I wouldn't have anything to do with her,but it wasn't her beliefs that I fell in love with,it was her. I've never tried to change her beliefs,no matter how frustrating it may be,and it's not really frustrating,because I accepted her a long time ago..and have been and am,at peace with it.

When Libertarian Toker first came to visit me,he was worried that I didn't allow any cussing in the house..lol,I told him-don't you dare feel uncomfortable ! I told him that he could cuss all he wants,but I'd prefer it-if he wouldn't take the Lord's Name in vain..lol. Libertarian Toker,is an aetheist..but it didn't stop us from being friends,gittin stoned and eating some dang good catfish.

There ain't a single person here,whom I wouldn't invite to dinner..it would be my pleasure and honor.

Have a good one...:D

Torog knows his shit i agree with allot of shit he says!

WE NEED TO BREAD TOROGS! LOL

Take it eazy all ;)

Torog is the man.

if there were a bunch of p[eople like torog in the world, bush would get re'elected, reagan would get re'elaceted, and so would nixon. wait they did. AVERAGE STUPID AMERICAN. this is the reason that america is fucking crashing into the ground. ITS TIME TO OVERTHROW AND REESTABLISH.

Torog - Okay so maybe I was a too offensive and confrontational at the start of this thread, and I apologize. It just really wrecks my head to say so much (of what I believe to be) hatred. Maybe you dont actually hate homosexuals or muslims, but thats what it comes across as, and to people like me it's depressing. I hate to see hatred (as ironic as that is) - even though I can be guilty of some not-too-friendly comments myself (like the start of this thread) - so alot of your comments just frustrate the hell out of me. Anyway, my apologies for what I originally said.

Poorman3 - what does freedom of speech have to do with anything? I'm not asking Torog to stop posting and i'm not asking for his posts/threads to be removed.

"ghost is lacking in some areas i wont bother with cuase he wouldn't/couldn't understand ,he has never been shot at,never been beat up i assume,never had a gay man wink at him,never had a reason to think we all cant just get along in some utopia"

Nowhereman - I live in a gun free society and i'm proud of it. Why is it a BAD thing that I havent been shot at?

Actually, I have been in my fair share of fights in the past - as much as I regret it. Whats your point?

If a gay guy winked at me it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Are you saying it's a bad thing that i'm not homophobic? No wonder you didnt get made a moderator again..

So maybe it's not possible for everybody to get along all the time.. but does that mean that we shouldnt try?

my shit didnt make any sense. hahaa

Well, although I'm not Bush's biggest fan, its becoming pretty obvious that parts of the arab world are starting to get a little scared...Libya and Syria in particular..Bush is such a bull in a china closet I think these two nations said:
"FUCK... THIS GUY IS SERIOUS...FIRST AFGHANISTAN,THEN IRAQ..OH SHIT HE'S COMING FOR US...MAYBE IN SOME WAY WE MAY WANT TO CHANGE OUR ATTITUDE....(ARABS)

HEY I THINK CONDI RICE, BUSH, AND RUMSFELD ARE THE THREE STOOGES BUT SOMETIMES YOU NEED THE THREE STOOGES.....

I DONT THINK GIVING IRAN AND NORTH KOREA UNREASONABLE ULTIMATUMS IS THE WAY TO GO EITHER....GUESS IM JUST A KERRY LIBERAL....

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my shit didnt make any sense. hahaa

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it made sense to me...maybe thats cause for alarm tho

(i was just trying not to offend any man)

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

So maybe it's not possible for everybody to get along all the time.. but does that mean that we shouldnt try?

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why dont you try living by your own words
i`m willing to try, why cant you?

I don't agree with anyone here 100% of the time. But there is the Ignore List...if someone really irritates you, just put them on it.

Btw, I like both Torog and Ghostoker but both for different reasons. (Not that anyone really cares, but I wanted to add it, anyway).

Torog just tells it how it is ( or he thinks it is ). Everyone should do that :D

Lets all just smoke some weed and get along. Fuck our differences and such.

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Originally Posted by Torog

There ain't a single person here,whom I wouldn't invite to dinner..it would be my pleasure and honor.

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If, for some strange reason not even god can foretell, I find myself in Texas, I'm gonna have to take you up on that offer ;)

Torog's the kind of guy you love to hate... But like juggalo said, this board would be boring without him (at least the politics/activism forums, that's for sure :)

In the end though, I salute Torog and respect him cause he knows that 99.9% of the people here completely disagree with him, insult him, are disrespectful towards him, and never once did I see him lose his cool. That's a man who ain't afraid to say what he thinks.

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Originally Posted by maryjanemama

I don't agree with anyone here 100% of the time. But there is the Ignore List...if someone really irritates you, just put them on it.

Btw, I like both Torog and Ghostoker but both for different reasons. (Not that anyone really cares, but I wanted to add it, anyway).

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Howdy MaryJaneMama,

Thanx for your kind words:) ...yup-we're each,lovable in our own ways..huh ? lol

Have a good one ! :D

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

If, for some strange reason not even god can foretell, I find myself in Texas, I'm gonna have to take you up on that offer ;)

Torog's the kind of guy you love to hate... But like juggalo said, this board would be boring without him (at least the politics/activism forums, that's for sure :)

In the end though, I salute Torog and respect him cause he knows that 99.9% of the people here completely disagree with him, insult him, are disrespectful towards him, and never once did I see him lose his cool. That's a man who ain't afraid to say what he thinks.

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Howdy FLESH,

Well..if God forbid,you do find yoreself in Texas..lol,I'd be honored to have ya visit..have some bbq and long-neck Bud's..Yeeehhhaawww !! :D

Thanx for your kind words...:)

Have a good one ! :D

well, if i ever make it to Texas i`m going to find you and have a blast! thats for damn sure. i drink budweiser by the way! i can not bum and bitch so there you go! LOL.